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Chanel Seiko and AP (393)

Published on Mon, 25 May 2026 21:53:07 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss various new watch releases while navigating a delayed recording schedule due to Everett's jury trial obligations. They explore an eclectic mix of timepieces including Chanel's surprising J12 Super Leggera chronograph, Seiko's 5 Sports with compass bezels, Swatch's unconventional Royal Pop pocket watch collaboration with Audemars Piguet, and Citizen's retro bullhead chronograph. The conversation also touches on Squale's perfectly-sized Sub 37 Legend and Oris's refined Atelier Date 38mm dress watch.

The hosts examine the tension between watch enthusiast expectations and broader market appeal, particularly when discussing the Swatch x AP pocket watch collaboration. They appreciate both accessible pieces like the $250 Citizen chronograph and more premium offerings, while maintaining their characteristically candid commentary about design choices and market positioning. The episode concludes with Everett's "Other Things" segment recommending two small Etsy makers: Alpine Elements (Dyneema pouches) and Gear by Julian (canvas tool bags), encouraging listeners to support these independent creators.

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Everett Yeah, fuck it.
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds,
Everett enthusiasts, or however you identify.
Andrew You're listening to 40 and 20 the WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm kind of like I'm kinda like amped
Andrew up. I think you can tell. I couldn't tell, no.
Everett I'm in the midst of a I'm in the midst
Andrew of a jury trial. Um a
Everett s uh what a week and maybe a half long jury trial if we go to the mats uh all the way. And uh yeah, I mean I I've been eating, drinking, breathing this case. This is like my first substantive break from the case in several days. Uh so it's it's weird, man. I actually feel really weird. I feel a little wired. I feel a little like
Andrew you maybe should go back and like you've got things that
Everett you oh need to do. That is definitely true. That is definitely true. But I'm gonna have some beers. I'm actually gonna try not to work tonight, which means I probably have to wake up a little early tomorrow. That'll be fine. I do better in the mornings anyway. So I'll go home and
Andrew you are a little hyped, a little pumped.
Everett Yeah, it's weird. I mean, I I think you know, different lawyers handle different circumstances. You know, I hear lawyers say occasionally like, I don't like to be in, uh, you know, I don't I don't go to court. I don't like want to be in court. And at at some level I can appreciate that because court's stressful. Um but I gotta tell you, man, there it is like the thing. It is the you know, like in fishing they say the tug is the drug. I like it's the Super Bowl. It is it it's yeah. I I mean it's it's like the thing that that is like oh, this is why we do
Andrew it. Yeah, this is why we do
Everett it. This is freaking um anyway. Yeah, no, so I'm I'm a little pumped up, I'm a little like juiced. But yeah, other than that, I'm all right. How are
Andrew you? I'm I'm good. I'm just, you know, limping on along. Uh feeling pretty okay. Uh we're we're obviously a couple days late and so we are going to apologize in that uh
Everett yeah, up a couple days late. Listen, uploads
Everett are gonna have been weird for like two and a half weeks. There's gonna be like the timing and uploads is all weird. Just you're gonna get all your episodes. Yeah, you just don't know when you're gonna get them. Okay.
Andrew We're kind of like a surprise package right now. But we've we've had uh you know Everett's in trial. I had a weird
Everett we're gonna get back on schedule, but it it's not this week.
Andrew No, no. It might be next
Everett week. Good chance. I mean at least
Andrew high likelihood. A chance. Yeah. High likelihood.
Everett At least a likelihood. At least a possibility.
Andrew Yeah, I accept that. We'll work on it. Yeah. But we're
Everett we're not actually sorry. We're just acknowledging
Andrew that, you know, you didn't you didn't have us on Tuesday morning. And we understand that that's important to you. But you know what? You get us
Everett on a few Tuesdays. You maybe haven't had us, you know, for you know you think, oh well this is this has been way too long. It's been a week. It listen, you're gonna be okay.
Andrew Yeah. The tug is your drug. And we're
Everett and we're gonna be okay. Yeah. And we're gonna be okay. Um okay. Well, shall
Everett we? I think we shall. Shall
Everett we? Uh can I start with something uh
Andrew that kind of hate that I really like?
Everett Oh, uh these are my favorite.
Andrew Um brand called channel.
Everett Channel, yeah. Has
Andrew a new J twelve
Everett super Legura. Oh uh
Andrew and it's all blacked out. It's
Everett sized in a really
Andrew appropriate way, given like this type
Everett of sport watch. So it's 42mm case,
Andrew a matte black ceramic, and black coated steel with 200 meters of water resistance. Caliber 12.1 automatic movements with 70 hours of power reserve. Uh I saw this and then read that it was made by Chanel and had trouble reconciling those two things. Like this, this could come out of any of our favorite watch brands. Uh, and even some of our lesser favorite watch brands, and be an absolute banger. So it's a Cosk movement. And so this is a black ceramic, just a really simple
Everett round case with
Andrew a steel bezel insert, steel, inner ring on your bezel, good fonts, a red uh kind of timer bar, a five-day date window with an arrow pointing to where you're at. Like everything about it works,
Everett and I struggle to accept
Andrew that it's a Chanel watch. Uh, and then you see the price tag, and you're like, oh, well, it's Chanel, so you know, $13,750 money makes sense. I think for not Chanel, that's a hard one for me to that's a hard pill for me to swallow. But I I I hate that really like this watch, and I really like this watch. It's a very classic, kind of fieldy pilot, really sporty, good colors. Uh Not what I expected from Chanel. I wasn't familiar with the J12 line ahead of it. But this is uh this is a nice introduction coming from you know a fashion design house with like I mean a baller watch, right? We have a 70-hour Cosk certified, not Cosk plus, that's important. Um
Everett this a lacquer
Andrew dial? Like what the what?
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Is um is it is it a monocock case, Andrew? So
Everett uh did you did you s did you see
Everett the the case back?
Andrew Yeahes. So it doesn't
Everett have it's got a crystal on the case back, but it doesn't have an actual at least I don't believe that they that there's a removable case back. Rather, it appears to be
Everett that the case back is all one piece.
Everett It does look with the
Everett crystal having been mounted inside of it and there's screws that come in from the back but they look like they attach they look like they run through the watch attaching something on the front, I assume or, perhaps they they test I I I mean I think that this is a front mounted movement.
Everett It it does have
Everett that appearance. Mm-hmm Uh I think it has
Everett to be. Yeah. I I mean I I I don't know. This is a cool watch. I it you know, I'm I'm kinda I'm I'm with you.
Everett I I mean it's a weird this is a weird
Everett watch. I I really so okay. One uh I like to watch. Like just like Me too. I would 10,000 feet. I like to watch. Uh the font specifically, the Super Legera
Everett font, is phenomenal. The
Everett Chanel font is just Chanel. But
Everett the the numerals, I'm I'm I'm good with all the numerals. I
Everett believe it's superlegra. Superlegra?
Everett Excuse me? Yeah. It's like pumped
Everett up. Uh this Viagra. This steel bezel on a blacked out case with like oxide coated metal, steel, and black ceramic down with it. Uh red and black, down with it. It it's a little it it's a little sort of like douchebro, but
Everett it is a little bit douchebro. But
Everett oh okay, I'm fine. I'm a little I'm a douchebro too. Uh but then
Everett but then also I'm like I
Everett may just don't get it. I I maybe just don't I think I don't like the date window. I yeah, I I've
Everett I think what I don't get is that I it it's it's from Chanel.
Everett It doesn't look like a Chanel watch. No.
Everett No. And and and this is a big update in the J twelve kind of line of modernizing this as a watch. Like this this line.
Everett Yeah, I mean I think of J twelve as sort of like a
Everett oh well uh certainly like a more dressy or I don't know, even like a women's watch. Like
Everett but this is like clearly super
Everett masculine. You know, the the links on the bracelet
Everett are super long. Did you notice that? Yeah,
Everett they're really, really long. I wonder how comfortable that bracelet's gonna be.
Everett I bet in ceramic it's just gonna feel really supple.
Everett Yeah, I don't know. With links that
Everett long, I'm not sure how supple it could feel,
Everett but um It
Everett it's a confusing watch to me.
Everett Yeah, I don't hate it. Yeah. I I
Everett I would really like to see one of these in person. Cause I think it's really neat.
Everett It looks like a Hamilton. That's what it looks like.
Everett It looks like a really nice Hamilton.
Everett Oh, I was thinking like Oris or like a movie prop like
Everett like made for a movie. Like
Everett a Hamilton. Yeah. I guess.
Everett Or like tag or like Sure.
Everett Oh yeah. It could be a tag. Yep. Yep. Um.
Everett Maybe even like an L E Tudor.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. No, it's fucking, it's really cool, man.
Everett It just doesn't make sense to me. The crown guards are like just they're they're present, but
Everett also really subtle. The crown size
Everett is really good. Yeah. Uh it's just
Everett it's I don't get it. Yeah.
Everett Uh I'm gonna take some I'm gonna take some low hanging fruit. Is that is that okay with you, Andrew?
Everett As long as it's mine. I'm
Everett going to do I'm gonna take the um Sequo V Sports with Compass Bezzle. Yeah. Uh so you know, Sego Five Sports sort of carpet
Everett bombing iterations, which I'm fine with that. Uh that's
Everett what they're that's what the the five sports line is is four.
Everett right now It's just carpet bomb
Everett skews and varieties and sell the
Everett billion watches that they've produced this year.
Everett Yeah and and I hate to say that they've taken a quantity over quality approach with the Psycho Five sports because I don't think that's totally fair, but there's some truth to that, right? There's sort of like what's gonna what's gonna be popular? Which that's nice, right? It's sort of like the Seiko 5 method of old, which really turned Seiko into a beloved, you know, entry-level enthusiast brand, right? Uh it's sort of it it feels a little like seiko sort
Everett of getting back to those
Everett not not seiko's roots but those seiko five roots that
Everett I think many of us gr grew up in that environment you know I
Everett or at least cut our teeth on. I would say all but the sort of very
Everett oldest or or perhaps
Everett the youngest watch enthusiasts sort of came up
Everett in that world, right? And so
Everett um this this feels like a part of that. And you know, I've always been a little critical of compass bezels because uh especially on a dive bezels,
Everett I I think that it's a little hard to justify them,
Everett but I'll be damned if this
Everett isn't attractive enough that I really don't care all that much.
Everett Uh this is a pretty sweet looking
Everett watch.
Everett Yes. Sorry.
Everett I can say more if you'd like to I was in the middle of a
Everett yawn. Uh it was clearly my turn to talk, but the yawning was happening. Um yeah, you know, I have reservations about compass
Everett bezels uh pretty universally. I think
Everett that practically speaking, it's a weird decision.
Everett Yeah. Uh, because you just objectively don't need
Andrew a compass bezel.
Everett The the watch is already doing the thing. Uh you you don''tt you don need it. Um I feel like a timer is probably definitely a more uh
Everett practical complication to
Everett add. Yeah. And you know, you could you can do
Andrew some math uh and and use a
Everett a compass bezel as a timer. Uh but in the way of the the Seiko 5 sports, I I think it's I
Everett think it works for me because
Everett of what the Seiko 5 Sports is, which is
Everett fun, affordable, well-manufactured
Everett watches with an adequate movement that
Everett come in so many varieties
Everett that you get exactly what you want. Nobody is going to the Seiko 5 sports
Everett catalog and not finding
Everett something they want and they like. And I think this just opens the the it it widens the tent for the people who are like, oh man, I want to, I want a compass
Andrew bezel. I don't know why you want one.
Everett But you do, and you should be able
Everett to get it at an affordable price in a well-manufactured, adequate movement watch. I think this is a cool addition. The colors that they added I'm for
Everett a really good Arctic white. Yep.
Everett A black. And then uh what do they call in this uh kind of taupey green?
Everett Yeah. There's a green and then like copy
Everett green. Kind of like a muddy green. Yeah. I'm gonna
Everett say brown and green, but the brown leans a little green and the green loans a little brown. Um
Everett these come on these come
Everett on straps. They're not it's
Everett not uh a pass-through strap, it's it's a two-piece strap. So okay, wait, wait. So the the white and black versions both come on a three-link bracelet and they both look great on it. The earthy dials both come on textile straps. These textile straps have leather that like leather trim that is reminiscent of Hamilton's khaki pass-through. Um which
Everett are two piece. It's damn fine, but they're two-piece.
Everett That's right. Um we've got I think the earthy versions have a black bezel in the green and sort of a bronzy brown on the tan. Really good executions.
Everett That brown is actually really dynamic color. Yeah. Um because the green is green. It's
Everett the brown copper or gunmetal in some pictures. Uh the brown is I'm I'm with you, Andrew. Super dynamic.
Everett Uh I I was gonna say these have kind of like a C63 feel to me. Like they're kind of experimenting with that light
Everett catcher idea of pulling
Everett light into the dial in a in a way that I I feel like is um a little different.
Everett Yeah, you maybe lost me a little bit with that
Everett one. Uh they're they're kind of light catchery.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
Everett I agree. You lost me with a couple. I
Everett I mean I I I don't I don't
Everett think I see that. But I I I I do
Everett understand what you're saying. They are catching light at a lot of different angles. I I think I really like uh they went with a really simple execution on this, which is sort of their big sort of
Everett psycho numerals, a really classic
Everett 13 to 24. And unless you're because of the way the compass bezel
Everett is laid out, uh, from a distance, it gives it's giving me uh
Everett like explorer two vibes from a distance,
Everett actually. Um, kind of GMT.
Everett That's right. Of course, it's not a GMT and it's not a 24 hour dial or bezel, but um it it has
Everett that feel to it. Um
Everett so uh I think these are coming at
Everett forty-one forty-one
Everett millimeters by forty-eight and
Everett a half long, which okay,
Everett 1385 thick, which is a lot, but it's a Sickle 5. Um
Everett 4R movement. Four R movement and
Everett and what? Like MSRP ride at about
Everett 500 bucks, I think. Um, which means these will be you know in that 300.
Everett Yeah. This is like the sweet spot for Seiko five. And I think that we're both getting v vibes off of up market,
Everett like way up market watches. Yeah. Is
Everett is indicative of of what they're trying to trying to achieve here, which I I I think is is a little bit different. You know, Seiko's very much been a beat of their own drum and kind of define like they create the icons and they stand by them. So I I think that's an interesting move. Um In dropping a five that is is so inspired by other things that are inspired and not just purely Seiko.
Andrew Yeah, I think that is sort of the way with the
Everett say you know, I mean what I I I meant what I said earlier when I said this this watch for me really sort of it it it it's not that this watch
Andrew in particular, but I feel this the like this
Everett watch on the heels of the more recent sort of I said carpet bombing really
Everett does this this one made me feel
Everett like you know what Seiko is getting they're reclaiming that brand in a way that I find really attractive. You know, when I remember when they reintroduced the Seiko 5 Sports dive watches,
Everett and people were like, oh, the, you know,
Everett 5KX and uh you know that they've neutered the SKX I don't know if Seiko knew what they were gonna do with that with that brand or that you know you know that line at the time, but if you'd have told me then Seiko's relaunching Seiko 5 the way we used to have it, but they're but they're doing it with their modern movements. And I I would have been way more excited about it. You know, of course, that's five years ago, six years ago
Everett at this point. Um, but
Everett it's like, okay, we're getting back there. Now, now prices are
Everett different. Prices on everything is different. I paid six twenty-five or six thirty-five for gas this morning, right? But um
Everett Yeah. You know, it it you
Everett know, people say, oh, you can't get them for a hundred bucks anymore. Like, yeah, well, you also can't buy a dozen eggs for a hundred bucks, so fuck off.
Everett You I mean I'll sell you a dozen eggs for a hundred bucks. Right
Everett now. You know what I mean. Hit
Everett me up. I will make how much is a six
Everett pack of beer these days? It's like 1.5
Everett bucks Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Remember when you could buy a six pack of beer for five
Everett bucks? I'm just too I'm older than you.
Everett A little bit, yeah. I used to get the
Everett shoulder tapping required a little bit of
Andrew incentive. I used to get pure like
Everett twenty-two's of pyramid IPA. I used to get them at the corner store
Everett for a buck. Uh
Everett no it, was it was more than that. I think I think it was two ninety
Everett p two ninety nine apiece. But that was I mean, that wasn't all even all that long ago.
Everett No. When I was in law school, it was two ninety
Everett nine for twenty two. You get two of 'em for six bucks and get fucking tat totally good. So
Everett I used to call it Birger King. I would go get a 22 of Total Dom and Burger King and take it home and have Birger King. What's next? Uh it's the thing, right? Everyone's talking about it. Uh Swatch BioCeramic has unveiled its new collaboration with
Everett AP in the Royal
Everett Pop and it is
Everett a pocket watch.
Everett And I I don't get it. I think they're really fun. They're really cool. There's, I don't know, about eight colorways. Two, four, six. Oh man, good guess. Eight colorways. Uh these are a uh uh 12 o'clock crown, 12 o'clock clip
Everett with uh I mean
Everett they're they're uh a royal oak, but as a pocket watch. I don't get
Everett it. Do you
Everett four20 bucks. They have some three o'clock crown versions, 12 o'clock crown versions. I up to this point, all of the bio ceramic collaborations have made sense. You know, we have the speedy, we have
Everett the fifty fathoms.
Everett Um those those make sense to me. This does
Everett not. Who's buying
Everett this? I mean, can
Everett you get the are you gonna be able to get them? I probably not because
Everett you're gonna have to sleep on the sidewalk in front of us watch. This is one of
Everett those this is one of those releases that comes out that makes you say, you know,
Everett I fucking hate watches, I'm out. Yeah, you w you know, and it it
Everett it's really, really easy to forget that the enthusiast
Everett Yeah, you know, I uh uh I I
Everett Andrew, did you know I started a watch brand at one
Everett point? Yeah, it's called Forty
Everett and Twenty The Watch Quicker Podcast. My
Everett business partner in foster was not an enthusiast. I mean, he he likes watches, but he wasn't a watch enthusiast in the way we are, certainly, or the way most of the folks listening to this show are. Um, and he used to, I think lovingly, uh, really sort of poo-poo the watch enthusiast crowd because he had come from traditional marketing, traditional margins. Um and and he's
Everett like, God, watch people are suck.
Everett We do. That that's a fair assessment.
Andrew But he would say that in the sense that
Everett like, you know, watch people critique, you know, oh like like they know so much about
Everett watches that they're really hard to sell things to
Everett right like in order to sell a watch to a watch person you you really have to hit a lot of boxes. You know,
Everett it it's much easier to sell a watch to the public,
Everett right? It's easier, it's
Everett easier to sell a watch
Everett to a guy that's gonna buy his watch at the shopping mall than it is to sell a watch to a watch enthusiast.
Everett And and and and that's true in some ways and
Everett not in others and I and I realize that's subject to criticism, but it it's really easy to
Everett forget, I think, that we
Andrew represent this teensy
Everett and the most important part teeny
Everett portion of the market, the market at large. And so it it's an important part, right?
Everett We're members of the media. That Nixon has sold a gazillion watches. And it's
Everett not because they make good watches, right? And and so
Everett it's maybe because they don't. I don't think this watch lives in a funny space,
Everett which is to say they're gonna be watch people that buy this because it's interesting.
Everett There are gonna be lots of non-watch
Everett people that are gonna buy this because it's interesting. There are gonna be AP people that buy this because it's interesting. There are gonna be swatch people to buy this because it's interesting. And and and those those Venn diagrams don't,
Everett you know, they're A not mutually exclusive, and B, they don't
Everett line up, the those four circles. And so it
Everett it's I I mean, uh look,
Everett I this is definitely not a release aimed at the the true, like the classic watch enthusiast, like sort of
Everett the center mass watch enthusiast. I don't think.
Everett With with that said, I think they're gonna sell a billion of them. Maybe not literally a billion, but you know what I mean.
Everett So a gajillion would be an
Everett interesting thing that I think will will perhaps be the the carrot for watch people is the movement so this is a brand new and proprietary movement with 15 patents the system 51 uh it's made it it is produced yeah that's
Everett cool that it's a system to one. It
Everett it it's produced through an entirely automated system. Uh and that's cool. It's a ninety hour power reserve. Um it's got like AP technology in the movement. Uh it's so not being a plug and play, I think, is is really interesting. And then maybe like mesak this even kind of weirder in that this is
Everett a place where AP is
Everett highlighting technological advancements in a weird pocket watch
Andrew partnership with swatch.
Everett Ah I'm I I I don't really know.
Everett I mean I the size is great. It's a 40 millimeter
Everett case. Yeah. It's got a the with the the clip kind of wrap it's like a it's like a uh a shroud clip that wraps around it that brings it up to 44 and a in a in a little bit, 44.2 um, 8.4
Andrew thick. I mean, everything about
Everett it is really cool. Only 20 meters of water resistance though, versus their typical 30. Um Um but I I don't uh
Everett I don't understand what's happening. That's not impact.
Everett I don't get it. I I I love the idea of this collaboration and I think a bio ceramic royal oak would be
Everett so cool. The
Everett the royal pop is a miss for me.
Everett You can I do understand that you can swap
Everett out the watch from the clip. So if you get more
Everett than one, you can you
Everett can take the watch out of the clip. So it's got yeah, you
Everett know, the watch is housed in a Yeah, it's
Everett got its like popabout shroud.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. But
Everett you can't wear it. So unless we're gonna go back to wearing
Everett sure you can. You just can't wear it on your wrist.
Everett Unless we're gonna start going back to wearing, you know, jackets and vests. Well. If this brings back the like early 2000s vest-wearing sans shirt and jacket in order to show off your royal pop. I will I I I actually I'm not gonna tell
Andrew you. Hear me out. Hear me out.
Everett You're an ER doc who can't wear
Everett a wristwatch. They all wear wristwatches. I don't know.
Everett Uh I I mean I think uh I I
Everett think this is fun. It it's not aimed at the wristwatch enthusiast necessarily.
Everett But that's what all these Swatch X brand like things have done. The fifty fathoms and the and the Speedmaster. They're
Everett hitting other markets. I I I appreciate the I appreciate the game.
Everett I appreciate if this
Everett is an indicator of frosted tips and Vest No Shirt coming back, I'm I'm gonna throw a fucking tantrum.
Everett You know, just the other day, actually, uh just the other day, I was um riding to work on my penny farthing and I thought, you know, I really need a pocket watch.
Andrew That's not a true story. Um,
Everett he was wearing skinny jeans and
Everett As you do, as you do.
Everett Um you know I think since we've talked about Seiko and we've talked about Swatch, I think it's time for us to talk about
Everett citizen. Oh, yep. We're
Everett just we're climbing the ladder here.
Everett In particular, the new Quartz Citizen Challenger to Suno?
Everett Suno? Yeah, the the
Everett challenge timer Suno.
Everett Challenge Timer Suno, which is a quartz bullhead corngraph. Uh a design that a design that is
Everett very, very, very nineteen seventies.
Everett U Which has both the crown and the pushers at twelve o'clock.
Everett Yeah, if it's a good if you don't know what a bullhead chronograph is. The Suno is the Japanese name for horn.
Everett Oh. Yeah. So it's uh
Everett it's if you speak Japanese, this
Everett is a is a pretty clear description of the
Everett watch. Yeah. My I don't. My
Everett nickname in college was Sunodog.
Everett Mm-hmm. That's not true. That's what all the boys called you.
Everett Uh it's a thirty eight millimeter 38mm case,
Everett uh which uh sort of
Everett allows you to keep those uh you know 1970s proportion uh we've got a
Everett 369 layout
Everett with a date window that's been I think problematically tucked in
Everett at four fifty.
Everett Yeah, four t four yeah fifty, four forty-five. It
Everett it it it it's not it
Everett it doesn't uh index
Everett with anything the the date window it doesn't index with
Everett the markers or the subdials and and
Everett I don't like it for that reason. If if they pulled
Everett it up 15 minutes and made it of like a 430 day window, I'm I'm all in.
Everett I just don't understand why it's it's where it is,
Everett right? It doesn't index with anything. Um
Everett yeah. So this is a look. This is a
Everett like $250 watch,
Everett which is just absolutely
Everett tremendous. Um, it
Everett comes with a single row folded bracelet,
Everett which is an oddity in and of itself in 2026.
Everett We've got citizens uh in-house
Everett courts 510 movement,
Everett uh 12-hour chronograph
Everett at a one second resolution. Um
Everett I think it's plus or minus 20 seconds
Everett a month. Uh two dial
Everett variants is a white panda uh and
Andrew mint chocolate chip. And mint
Everett chocolate chip, yeah. That that's right. I don't know what they actually
Everett call it. It doesn't matter what they call it.
Everett It it's sort of like pastel green with orange
Everett subdial hands. Maybe pistachio.
Everett Pistachio, I love it. I love it. And it is full looned, which is fucking rap. So
Everett here's my one gripe. And I'm not usually a thickness griper. This is 117 thick for a quartz chronograph. And eleven seven for a a chronograph is a is a really reasonable space
Everett in and of itself, yeah. For a quartz chronograph
Everett is problematic. And then when you look at this thing from the side,
Everett yeah. Yeah, it's a little slab. The
Everett the placement of j just the shape of the lug and then the placement of the spring bar in the lug puts this
Everett all above the bracelet.
Everett That's right. Yeah. Because it's a bullhead,
Everett the the lugs have to the the actual bracelet connection
Everett has to sit down low.
Everett So you you've kind of got like it's not a pebble, uh, but
Everett it's got some sort of pebble esque elements to the tonneau case.
Everett Like like you were suggesting, that bracelet sits
Everett all because they have to have the crown
Everett and the pushers above the bracelet, the bracelet's pushed all the way down to the bottom. So yeah, this thing
Everett just sits loud and proud. It's gonna
Everett it's gonna wear thick. Yeah.
Everett Which I I think uh uh you know w one of the
Everett things that I've They're
Everett hooded lugs too so it yeah like I think that'll like
Everett exacerbate the the
Everett thickness of that wear. Some
Everett watches want to wear thick, right? You know, that's a reality. You're wearing your dox at
Everett a night. Mm-hmm and and that's a watch that really
Everett wants to kind of sit proud. You know, i
Everett i it's a watch that wants to sit up on
Everett your wrist. And that's part of the idea
Everett of it. You know, not all watches need to be wrist huggers. Not all watches need to be, you know, 10 10 nothing thick. Um but you just going into this, if you're gonna buy it blind, based on our recommendation, just know it's gonna sit high. And also don't fucking do that.
Everett Yeah, it's gonna sit real high. This full loom though, look at this loom picture.
Everett It's cool. Yeah. That's good. Uh and you know,
Everett because it's citizen, it's gonna be a pretty okay
Everett bracelet. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Everett Uh I mean it it it's gonna
Everett be an objectively antiquated bracelet, but
Everett I don't think that means bad. No,
Everett but Citizen doesn't overlook their bracelets like many other
Everett Seiko. They overlook
Everett them in different ways. They overlook them
Everett in different ways. But I think generally speaking, our ch
Everett our our criticisms of cheap
Everett citizen bracelets have have been
Everett like, this is pretty good. It's not expertly finished, but it's
Everett comfortable and it articulates well.
Everett And you can size it. Yeah. Without the
Everett side. I don't think I think this thing's gonna be a pain
Everett in the dick to size personally. Probably. Yeah. I I I you know of course I don't know, but it that's my guess.
Everett Should I look at the sizing technology on it?
Everett They don't they don't give us any there's no um
Everett these these no good product pictures of these old
Everett style folded bracelets all have terrible sizing.
Everett But just swap it out and get
Everett a twist of flex. Probably probably
Everett easier than a uh probably
Everett easier than like uh an old Christopher Ward. Well, maybe that, but I or even
Everett Doxa shit, man. We we I was thinking
Everett your timex Q. That's the one I was thinking about. Oh, that was
Everett a nightmare. Uh or Q timex. We we blew out two bits trying to size the Doxa bra
Everett Yeah, I I actually just warrantied the bit that we broke. Oh you did? Yeah, I I broke a Wi-Ha bit sizing that Doxa and I warrantied it. I they s yeah you know they said I could d do it. I emailed them forever ago and I was supposed to take pictures of it and I just didn't get to it. So I finally did that and I've got they've sent my new my new bit isn't in route. Thanks We Haw. And Doxa. And Doxa.
Everett For putting these things in with fucking impact wrenches.
Everett It I think it had uh it had Loctite on it, right? Didn't figure that
Everett out? No, uh my uh my Vortex red dot had Loctite on it. These fucking guys at Cabela's. They they and they installed a a pistol red dot and uh they put Loctite.
Everett Like red Loctite, right? Yes.
Everett They put Loctite on the the zeroing uh set screws. So like I blew out a bit on it and I twisted another one. I'm like, what the
Everett fuck? D they warrantied that, right?
Everett Uh no, I got it I got it sorted, so I didn't have to
Everett vortex warranty. Uh I
Everett still might, just cause it It's okay.
Everett It's kinda fucked up, right? It's kinda fucked it up. Alright, what's
Everett next? Okay, next up for me. Hmm. Not that
Everett many choices, kiddo. Can we talk about the squale
Everett sub thirty-seven legend.
Everett Yeah. And that that was for you, Luke.
Everett Uh yeah. I said it right probably.
Everett You did. Well, I didn't. You said it right-ish.
Everett I got close. I don't
Everett as right as as right as we're gonna say it as
Everett right as we're gonna say it so this is a return to ex existence of the sub thirty seven legend, and it is a squale, but
Everett it's sized so perfectly.
Everett What we have here is a 37mm by 112 thick because of its crystal. It's 10-7
Everett without a crystal, 45.5 lug
Everett to lug, 300 meters of water resistance, Slita SW200 movement, the elaborate grade with no date, and it is everything you want in a small stature squale dive watch with Fotina. But I love it. Um I have exactly no notes. This is what I want. Squally, like for me, is it tends to be
Everett too big. So now we've got
Everett this down to a 37,
Everett ele11 just over 11 thick. It is yes.
Everett Yes, please, and thank you. Andrew,
Everett is the top so so is the top
Everett plane of the mid-case of this watch completely flat? It looks like it could
Everett almost be concave.
Everett I there I don't have a real good
Everett profile picture of it. Yeah.
Everett But it is. I think that it is if
Everett it's not a perfect plane,
Everett it is as close as I've ever seen a watch. Yeah.
Everett But because of the shape of the watch, it
Everett doesn't look like it's going to lie flat. I think it's going to have a great, a great wear, but that it
Everett it makes the lugs uhh kind
Everett of blow out a little bit. Yeah. Like balloon. With a
Everett great, great ceramic
Everett or or maybe what is this, a sapphire insert maybe on the on the bezel?
Everett You know, I I understand they released this as
Everett a limited edition in 2024, and I think we we missed it. Or at least I
Everett I missed it. Um I'm with you, man. I think this is a
Everett really cool release. It it's
Everett all the things that I've really liked and and and really continue to like about Squale uh
Andrew without any of the like just kind of
Everett small misses. The size is perfect. I'm totally down with fotina
Andrew in this application it's got
Everett the uh oh the hollow fkm
Andrew strap what do they call it doesn't
Everett matter. 20 to 16 on it. It's just everything we love about 1970s
Everett watches. Yeah, I mean, can you give me a bracelet? Can you give me a f like a folded link bracelet? Can they hook up with citizen and hook me up with a fucking Japanese like folded link bracelet?
Andrew Yeah, I'd fuck with that. But I'm I I would
Everett wear it on rubber. Like that's what I would wear it on anyway. I just want it like the bracelet at that point is just because I want to have it. This is cool. Not because I want to wear it on it. Because I want this on
Everett It's a really weird watch and I like it a lot. I'm with you.
Everett Um I don't even I don't even mind the Fautina on this. I I think it
Everett looks really nice. This
Everett is sort of like the watch that I should like that
Everett I do like. Not like the channel
Everett watch that we talked about earlier? A little bit like
Everett that, actually. A little bit like the channel
Everett watch. Because this is kind of all the things you hate.
Everett Well. Th'eres no bracelet. It's
Everett got Fotina.
Everett There's way too many logos
Everett on the dial because Squale wants a dozen logos on the dial. There's three server, yeah. There's three logos.
Everett That's just squally. Yeah, but that's too
Everett many.
Everett Yeah. But I I I love this.
Everett And I love it. It's in a 37. Squally, like I've always kind of like been reluctant to dive into because it's they I don't know the size just has never spoken to me, but bringing in a 37, this is uh this does a thing to me makes me feel some things south
Everett of the border if you know what I mean
Everett my wallet's feeling heavy and these are uh seventeen hundred and fifty US money. So, you know, right right where you expect it to be.
Everett Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Uh so a few weeks ago Oris released their Atelier
Everett complication watch that everybody was like,
Everett well, we didn't talk
Everett about it in the show because I just didn't think it was that interesting. Um
Everett maybe it was interesting. I just uh I just don't want to. I just don't want
Everett to. I I didn't. And and Andrew, you didn't
Everett because In ca'use you didt want to, I guess.
Andrew I had the same thing happen, yeah.
Everett Uh it was like But then this week they released their uh Atelier
Everett date thirty eight millimeter
Everett and all of a sudden I kinda wanna
Everett all of a sudden the the my interest is piqued.
Everett I kinda wanna. Okay, so let's. Um
Everett you know, Oris obviously uh they're a weird brand. I uh you know, they don't have
Everett that many watches,
Everett but I have so many. But I can't
Everett think of another brand that
Everett is so I don't want to say spastic,
Everett that's not the right word, but is so like
Everett all over the place with their watches, you know. The the
Everett Pro Pilot X is
Everett such a like bleeding edge watch, you know, with like its its
Everett seat buckle clasp and you know titanium and
Everett angles and mo you know
Everett really sort of pushing pushing the envelope and and then they've got and and then they got the Aquus, which is like
Everett maybe the weirdest maybe
Everett the weirdest dive watch on earth, but
Everett like really awesome and beloved.
Everett And and then they've got the like the 65, the pointer
Everett date, which are these like almost
Everett like retro dress.
Everett Yeah, that's like it it's like a modern 1920s
Everett bar. The one thing you can't say about any of those watches, at least those four that I've just brought up, is that they're is that they're
Everett boring, right? None
Everett of those watches are even remotely
Everett boring. The
Everett Ortellier 38mm date is
Everett boring. And in a good way. So refined.
Everett This is unlike this is the first Aurus I've looked at. I'm like, whew. Okay.
Everett And this isn't a new release. Let's be clear. The
Everett Artellier date uh it's a a historic model for Oris, uh, but certainly not one that's
Everett gotten a lot of attention recently. That's obviously changed here now with with two releases in a matter of a month uh in the line. It seems to me that Oris is like, hey, this
Everett is this is a direction we want to
Everett point our wagon. Um we've got a smaller watch
Everett previously previously
Everett 40 down to 38, which is a great move.
Everett I I would have gone 36 if it's if it's my my ship to steer, I go 36
Everett with this. It's not, and so it's
Everett a 38. Yep. Uh 10-9 thick, lug to lug of
Everett 44, which is terrific because this is a watch that could very easily have two long lugs and it doesn't. Uh very, very polished. Big box dome crystal and polish makes this thing look like jewelry. It has a bezel if you look really, really closely. With
Everett a loop, yeah. It has a bezel.
Everett Uh we promise. You may not see it in the pictures, but I promise it's there. Uh it
Everett comes in three colors: dark blue, white, and chocolate
Everett black, which I feel slightly uncomfortable saying I
Everett don't know why. Another
Everett really dynamic black though, if you look at the different colors, uh the different photos of it, it it really interacts interesting ways with the light. And I think part of it is because of the really unique texture on both the blue and the black.
Everett It's a stamped texture, but it it sort of evokes
Everett sort of like a geometric guillosh. Yeah. Like a radio guiosh. Umray. Yeah,
Everett but it's uh rather than being kind of arky
Everett or floral y,
Everett it is uh like markers alternating like high and low points and uh it's something I just just look at pictures of it. I'm not gonna be able to describe this geometric pattern.
Everett Yeah. Uh the white dial has
Everett more of like a sandy texture. It's got
Everett the uh a texture medallion in the middle, like the blue and the black, but
Everett it's more sandy. It doesn't have that
Everett same papery geometric
Everett ridge. Uh yeah, no, that's good. Paper is good. Um the markers
Everett are wild,
Everett highly polished silver markers.
Everett I don't know, not not uh silver the metal, but but silver ice.
Everett Maletlic silver. Yeah. With but they're they're wedge shaped. That they come to like Yep. They come to meet the the dial on the inside and on the outside of the marker are much higher.
Everett 200 dash movement, 200-1 Salita, 200-1 movement, which allows
Everett them to keep the price on this relatively
Everett reasonable. Look, this is a 1,750 franc watch, which I think means it's a
Everett $2,000 watch
Everett on a strap or a little bit more,
Everett $2,200 on a bracelet. Not cheap. But
Everett that's horse money, though. That's horse
Everett money. Um, and it's really, really pretty. I I mean, this
Everett is more than an
Everett entry-level dress watch, right? Undeniably, it's more than entry-level, but this is a
Everett this is a cocktail time or or perhaps a bambino and I think there's a lot of
Everett there's a lot of people that could Mature into a watch like this. If you've been a guy who's had a cocktail time for
Everett you know the last 15 years,
Everett and you're like, you know, that cocktail time
Everett was a little too big when I bought it, and right now
Everett it's actually just way too big.
Everett And I'm just ready for something a little nicer. I make a
Everett little bit more money. Uh I I
Everett I I want something a little bit more mature. This this is gonna scratch
Everett all of that itch vertically, not
Everett horizontally. Yeah, right down to the bone.
Everett And and and I I just I I think you could do so much worse than this.
Everett It this does come with a bracelet if you're so inclined, and
Everett it's a really lovely H-link
Everett bracelet with polished center links, and it
Everett is really dynamic and beautiful. This is just a terrific watch. I
Everett the texture on this blue, it's good on the black. The really delicate papery texture on the white is good. But but this this stays
Everett on, ande reference. Chocolate rain. Oh yeah, chocolate well, I know, but this is chocolate black. Uh okay. Carry on.
Everett Uh this texture on the on the blue just has me.
Everett Andrew, in there any other watches you want to talk about? Nah. Then take me to church. What other things, what you got? Okay.
Everett So uh uh not too long ago you recommended the movie Send Help. I watched it.
Everett Loved it. It's so good. I
Everett I probably won't watch it a second time. It
Everett it's a m i it's like the most surprising movie, right? You're like
Everett the whole time. Like the everything and nothing makes sense. This the the story unfolds at this
Everett really great pace
Everett uh I loved it it it kind of had the uh no we we talked about it already so I watched that movie and at the conclusion of that movie I got a recommendation of like hey you might also like
Everett like an AI like a Netflix AI recommendation like you
Everett might also like Like uh the movie that it recommended to me
Andrew was Ready or Not. Oh,
Everett yeah. Oh my
Everett gosh, it had it was like so. I love this movie. It's a 2019 movie. Uh it was uh it's directed by Matt Betanelli Olpine and Tyler Gillette, uh written by Guy Busick and R.
Everett Christopher Murray. Don't care.
Andrew It had like it
Everett was the same kind of mindfuck movie where
Everett you don't exactly
Everett expect what's about to happen, but then it happens. It felt like get out, it felt like uh a good classic slasher, but without being a slasher until it became one. Uh I loved it. It was
Everett so different from anything I've ever seen. Maybe a little bit more predictable than
Everett send help or get help or whatever it's
Andrew called. Definitely more
Everett predictable once
Everett you get there.
Everett Right? Like when you when when the
Everett when when they open their kimono, you're like, oh yeah, I I I saw that coming.
Everett Yeah. But you didn't until they did. Yeah.
Everett Right. Uh it's it's almost like you look back and you're like, oh, I should have seen that coming. And then and then and then once you hit that threshold, everything uh everything makes sense. But it felt kind of like get out. Uh it felt like a it uh oh shoot, what's his name? Key. King
Andrew King Michael Key. It felt like one of his movies.
Everett Yeah, a little bit. Um the the
Everett it was like a super well cast
Everett movie where all of these supporting actors
Everett just did exactly what you wanted
Everett them to do. There was weird mysteries that never
Andrew get solved, and you're like kind of okay with
Everett that. Uh it was super fun.
Everett Probably an also another movie I I
Everett I only need to watch once. Right? This isn't one that that that you go back to. Like it's not like Black Mirror or or even uh Squid Game.
Everett I think I I I've been long enough since I saw Send Help that I would watch it again today, I think.
Everett Okay. A different perspective going in the second time, right?
Everett Because like, yeah. Okay. I I
Everett know. But I would watch it
Everett again today because it's yeah. It's I mean I think the second time, you know, movies like that, right, where you you learn the story, like like you understand what's happening, when you go back, you can really appreciate the performances the acting and the the relationships
Everett beautifully acted I like that that's that's peak both of those
Everett actors uh but
Everett this this was very much like that. You recognize some people, but because they didn't go big on like anybody but one person, you're you're experiencing all of these performers for the first time in the context that you're watching this movie. It was super fun. A like it has like kill bill
Everett kill bill feels, like just all of these
Everett really familiar storylines and cinematography. I
Everett loved it. It was fantastic.
Everett Highly recommend. It's on Netflix. Uh oh no it's on Hulu is where I watched it um because it it goes through the Disney app. So when you bundle your Hulu and ESPN in Disney your, Hulu app no longer works. So you have to watch things through Disney, which does make it problematic in telling my kids, no, you can't watch this because it's not on Disney. Um but whatever. It was really fun. Highly recommend if you're looking for like a kind of psychological thriller light.
Everett Yeah, lots of blood. It never gets really scary
Everett extreme violence, but not scary. But but and not quite Tarantino blood and violence until the very end. Kind of Tarantino-esque in the way that it's like all build up and then just like
Everett Yeah. Dust still non bloodbath. Yeah. Yeah.
Everett Super fun. Yeah, good, good pick.
Everett Uh that's a fun one. Yeah. Uh I I don't remember. I think I watched that with Betty. I
Everett watched that with my teenage daughter. That
Everett seems her flavor. Yeah. Totally her flavor.
Everett Uh Andrew, for other things today, I've got two other things. They are of a of a close enough theme
Everett that I'm gonna consider them one other
Everett thing. As always, be cheating. Just cheating. But I think more uh
Everett more importantly, I gotta do something that we don't do often enough on this
Everett show, at least recently, which is I am going
Everett to direct you, you at home, yes, I'm talking to you.
Everett I'm going to direct you to two
Everett very, very small makers on Etsy. Creators.
Everett Creators? People that make things. Uh on Etsy. Specifically, what I have is
Everett two bags.
Everett Two bags. Pouches,
Everett bags that I've picked up recently. So I'm gonna hand you the first one. So the first one is a very small what what is the dimensions on that, Andrew? Uh I think it's roughly three by five. Three by five, that's what I was gonna say say. I'd uh just a
Everett sub three by five. I'm gonna be like two and a half by four and a half. It it yeah. It's uh
Everett I think it's I think it's actually three and a
Everett half. Anyway, it's roughly three
Everett by five pouch that is made by
Everett a store on Etsy, a maker on Etsy called Alpine Elements. There will be a link
Everett to this in the show notes as ever. Alpine Elements. This is a very small flat gear pouch
Everett made of Dynema. Do you know what Dynema is, Andrew?
Everett It feels like a collagen casing for sausage.
Everett Dynema is a really interesting material. It's stronger by weight than steel. Uh, it is a it works
Everett really well in uh rope
Everett applications, it can be laminated
Everett for body armor. Um,
Everett there's all sorts of applications, but in particular, outdoor enthusiasts in the last handful of years have
Everett taken to using Dynema for just
Everett about everything for backpacking because it's so light and it's so strong. It does have some weaknesses. It is uh a very expensive to produce, so it's more expensive than like a you know like a Gore-Tex fabric. Um
Everett it is uh
Everett uh not impervious to heat uh or temperature fluctuations, so it
Everett can be damaged by by you know any sort of real high heat can damage it, but
Everett it is relatively waterproof, it's super strong. I've actually purchased this for the uh boo-boo bag
Everett that I've got in my iFac. Uh so it is inside of this thing I've got, you know, band-aids and some moleskin and
Everett uh other things that sort of you keep together and you can pull it out quickly and say, oh, you need a band-aid for your boo-boo. Here you go. Um, it's just fantastic. It's got a great sort of sealed
Everett laminated waterproof zipper. And the welded
Everett zipper is uh really impressive.
Everett It it's just great. I bought this thing for $14. This is oh, so it's three and a half by five inches. It is the small flat gear pouch made
Everett of ultralight dynama zipper Diddy bag. Three
Everett and a half by five. They have it in the
Everett Diddy bag. She has it in four
Everett sizes. So seven by ten, five point five by eight, four point five by six, and
Everett three and a half by five. Um, but
Everett she's got a whole bunch of other stuff. She's got uh let's see. Uh let's see. Follow sh nope, don't follow the shop, go to shop. She's got like uh other pouches, different dimensions, different sizes. Anyway, it's the type of thing you take a flyer on, because I think I paid fourteen bucks and you're like, yeah, but w whatever. And then I got it and I was like, oh, this is just terrific. And I'm gonna go back and buy some more in some different sizes. I'm not quite sure what I'm gonna do with them. That's the
Everett problem with something like this. You're like, I want that. I don't know what I'm gonna do with it yet.
Everett I'm gonna put shit in it. I I
Everett bought this one very specifically to to accomplish a task and
Everett it's done that perfectly, but now I'm like, I want more of these things because it's just
Everett great. Like and it looks like this is like techie. Like if someone saw this, they'd be like, what is that? That's cool. I want to get that.
Everett Because it's really well manufactured.
Everett That's right. That's right. Super well made and it it''ss just just great. I I
Everett love it. Um okay,
Everett so that's that's one of two. The second one I have, this is from a maker called
Everett Gear by Julian. So oh wait.
Everett Um Alpine Elements, she
Everett is in Highlands
Everett Ranch, Colorado. Gear by Julian. He's a seller out of Seattle. I gather that he is like a like a Honda Element and FJ Cruiser enthusiast. And he got his start by making accessories for Honda Elements and FJ Cruisers, but he has made a small tool bag. I actually think this is a design. I think this is an old military tool bag design. But he makes these small canvas, I think it's a hemp canvas tool bags with nylon
Everett webbing reinforcement
Everett and handles. And this is, I don't know, I I think it is, I figured this out at some point. I think it's 10 inches long by a four inch diameter circle. It's a it's a tubular
Everett it's a tube duffel. It's a tube duffel.
Everett It's 10 inches long by I think four inches on the circle diameter. And it's just
Everett great. It's just great.
Everett I got two of these things that he sells them. They come with little patches. He makes his own like uh patches.
Everett Morale patches. Morale patches, which I
Everett took off immediately. But um because I'm like I don't want to Honda Element Morale patch. Uh with that said, this thing it I just love it. So I um I've been putting together this is something I I don't know if I've talked about on the show, but I'm putting together toolkits for my kids to give them when they move into their first place.
Everett So I'm, you know, I'll I will
Everett buy tools if I see a good deal on something, but they're all like really nice, sort of
Everett Gucci, not super over the top,
Everett but like nice stuff. So I bought a couple of these because I've put together like one component of the and I was like, oh, I want something. And I found these on Etsy and I was like, oh, I'll give these a try. I'm gonna order a whole bunch of these because
Everett it's just awesome. These
Everett are awesome. I it you know what what fits in them i i've got these and inside of them i have a pair of linesman applier a pair of diagonal cutters a pair of wire strippers and
Everett three different screwdrivers, all made by clients. So nine-inch, nine-inch linesmen's,
Everett three full-size screwdrivers, and
Everett it all fits in there. Like it's not stuffed in there, right?
Everett No, there's ample room for more.
Everett You could you could stuff a bunch of shit in there, but
Everett if you've ever tried to fit a nine inch
Everett linesman plier into anything
Everett besides like a full size toolbox, they don't fit in things. They're just big enough
Everett that they don't fit in anything. It fits easily in here. Um
Everett and you know, a a pair of uh like a pair of nine-inch linesmen is a big motherfucker. And it just like it almost like looks like a clown car when it comes out. It's like how did
Everett that what?
Everett Um Justin Wilman over
Everett here. And and the case just I mean this
Everett thing doesn't feel like it will
Everett ever break. You you know, I I don't know
Everett the zipper. I don't think is the
Everett nicest zipper on earth.
Everett No. But because of the
Everett construction, it would you could replace the
Everett zipper in 20 minutes with a sewing machine.
Everett And And because of the construction, it's a top zip
Everett duffel. Yeah. Uh you're
Everett you're not gonna put much pressure on that zip.
Everett That's right. Yeah. I I mean you yeah, no, I think that's right, Andrew. This thing is great. A
Everett side zip rather than top zip? Yeah, side zip. If we're if we're looking at a duffel bag. The tube, it's a vertical tube zipper.
Everett And I've got all these like uh I've got like weight
Everett when you buy a savior bag, they always send you like four or five of the
Everett thousand of the Velcro
Everett that you can ride on, or these you know, hook and loop things that are made for writing on
Everett with Sharpie. So I have like fifty
Everett of these at the house. So I just put a
Everett one of those Savior hook and loop. It's like this is great.
Everett It it looks like a a dainty little purse that you would carry your Pomeranian
Everett in. You totally could too, but it's pretty
Everett I mean this is pretty butch the green canvas and webbing like um okay
Everett so just just so you know just
Everett so you know at home gear by Julian has 963 sales. Alpine Elements, one point nine K sales. So
Everett um I think for a matter
Everett of established and
Everett and you know frequent
Everett makers. Sure. But you can get a
Everett you can get one of the gear by Julian bags for 12 bucks. You can get two
Everett of them for 22 bucks.
Everett You could get an alpine Elements
Everett three and a half by five
Everett bag for fourteen, fifteen for the medium, seventeen for the large, nineteen for the extra large. Blow these guys
Everett up. Just go buy something. Go buy
Everett something from one of these buyers. Blow these guys up. I want them both to be like, what the fuck just happened? Wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't that be fun if everybody who listened went and bought one of these things, it
Everett would be if these guys were like, How did I have
Everett just twenty percent of my forever sales in one week, go buy one of these things? They're fucking great. And these are these are people that I think deserve to be supported.
Everett Uh does the does the gear by Julian sizes do they have different sizes? It's
Everett all the same size. Okay. So all this
Everett like miniature
Everett I want him to I want him to make more
Everett bags in different sizes. So yeah, nine by five by four is the dimension on this.
Everett So I I would love it if he
Everett made a slightly bigger size. I think this would slay in like a fifteen inch, fifteen by six. Yeah Yeah.
Everett Yeah, put some put some D-rings on it for the ends. That's a that cause that would be like That's
Everett all of a sudden like a like a serious tool
Everett bag. Or like a a ball or
Everett gym bag. Yeah, I I think you'd need bigger
Everett for a gym bag, but it wouldn't you? I think you need like 18 inches, maybe
Everett I think you could get by with 15 inches uh you know for a a pair of shorts, a shirt, a pair of
Everett shoes. Um I
Everett mean 15 inches is like the width of this room.
Everett Uh that's all I got. Huh?
Everett Well Andrew, you want to add anything
Everett before we go? Nah, I'm out
Everett of things. Hey folks, thanks for joining us
Everett for this episode of 40 and 20, the WatchClicker Podcast. Uh, you can go to watchclicker.com if you want to see our website. If you want to follow us on social media, you can do that at 40 and 20 underscore watchclicker at watchclicker. If you want to support us, you do that at patreon.com slash forty and twenty. So when you go buy one of these bags, go straight to patreon.com slash forty and twenty and drop a couple bucks our
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