Watches Roundup with Will (391)¶
Published on Tue, 05 May 2026 19:42:27 -0700
Synopsis¶
In this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker podcast, host Everett is joined by Will (filling in for Andrew) for a comprehensive discussion of recent watch releases and personal interests. The conversation covers several significant timepieces including the Chopard L.U.C XPS Prussian Blue, Tag Heuer's Formula One Solar Graf Pastel Collection, and various offerings from Piaget including their Andy Warhol collaboration and Polo Signature Date. They also discuss Ming's titanium polymesh bracelet, DIY Watch Club's partnership with Wind Up Watch Fair, Hamilton's Khaki Field Mechanical 36mm anniversary edition, and the Favre-Leuba Harpoon Revival.
The hosts share candid opinions about pricing, design choices, and market positioning of luxury watches, debating whether certain pieces justify their price points. Beyond watches, they discuss hockey and basketball playoffs, explore Will's current video game obsession with Pragmata, and Everett enthusiastically recommends Glenfarclas 105 scotch whisky. The episode showcases their chemistry and expertise while maintaining an accessible, conversational tone that balances technical knowledge with personal enthusiasm for horology and related interests.
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| Everett | Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify, you're listening to 40 and 20, the watchclicker podcast, with your hosts Everett, and my good friend Will. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Will, how are you? |
| Will | I don't know that I could be any better than I am right now. I've got a glass of whiskey. I'm watching hockey playoffs and I'm talking to you. How are you? |
| Everett | That sounds like a really nice Sunday, Will. |
| Will | It it's it's been a hockey Sunday over here. We uh we got to dump the kids off with the grandparents and I got to watch hockey all afternoon. |
| Everett | I you know you're from you're from Pennsylvania which is different than Oregon in in many ways. But |
| Will | I think civilization. |
| Everett | Uh you have uh you're talking about the Amish. |
| Will | They're they're a little bit further west. I don't live near the Amish. |
| Everett | Um Uh yeah, yeah, I w one of the things uh one of the things that comes to mind is is really an appreciation for hockey, which is not to say the Northwest doesn't have hockey. You know, Portland, we've got the Winterhawks, which is a minor league team, and they're beloved. Uh and of course we've got the Kraken in Seattle and uh you know now the the Knights in Las Vegas, the Golden Knights. Are they golden? |
| Will | Uh they are theden G Kolnights, and now you have the Utah Mammoth as well. |
| Everett | Yeah, so so I mean I I I hockey is here, but it's not here the way it is in the northeast for sure. So |
| Will | Yeah, I I feel like that's a lot of major sports, you know, just because of where I live, you know, it's it's like the quote unquote tri state area, right? You know, there's so many metropolitan teams in between New York and Philly, which I live right in between, so it's all over the place. |
| Everett | Yeah. Yeah. Uh well it you know, here it's basketball playoff season and Portland's in a in a in the playoffs for the first time in a couple of years. So we're we're we're also doing playoffs here, just slightly different. |
| Will | Now what's the basketball team that you guys root for? Because I don't follow basketball at |
| Everett | all. I well, I I believe Andrew and I are both Trailblazer fans. I think I can speak for him in that in that regard. Uh yeah, born and raised in Portland. So I've been a Portland Trailblazer fan for my whole entire life. But the the Blazers, this some we don't know what's going to happen with the Blazers. They were just been purchased. Obviously, Paul Allen owned the Blazers for a billion years. Then Paul Allen died. Then Jody Allen sort of ran the team for a minute. And they just gotten purchased by Tom Dunham who owns gosh. He owns a Tampa Bay team. Is it the Bucks? He owns. Oh no, he owns the he he owns the uh is it Tampa hockey team? |
| Will | Uh the Lightning. I don't know if he owns them. |
| Everett | That's not it. He owns somebody somebody aim out that way, or maybe it's a Carolina team. Anyway, he's uh he's a notably a cheapskate. He's made some decisions that are pr people are thinking he may not he may not want to keep the trailblazers in Portland. So that's a little |
| Will | scary. It's a little scary for |
| Everett | Trailblazers fans. Is |
| Will | there anything more alienating than when a team's owner decides to move it. Like, you know, far away too, not like to the next town over. You know, like uh I think back to like the St. Louis Rams when they move. It's like shit, that's gotta suck. You gotta find a new team. But |
| Everett | yeah, or or the supersonics to Oklahoma City, or yeah, some of these pretty tragic. The Oakland Age are going through that right now. |
| Will | I doubt I'll ever have that problem because I don't think anybody's gonna move out of the New York market. Um but if that ever were to happen, you get a fresh start with whatever team you want. |
| Everett | Yeah, that's that's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. Um I I wouldn't have I I mean I wouldn't have another basketball team, I don't think. Like I I don't like basketball enough. I'm a I'm a baseball guy. I'm a baseball guy. That would |
| Will | just be the end of the sport. I'm done with this now. I I I |
| Everett | I mean ri know that sounds a little funny, but I I actually think that's what would happen. I'd just stop caring. I'm I'm a I'm a baseball fan, right? So so that's my I root for the I root for the Mariners. My my bigger concern right now is that Portland's gonna get a major league team and I'm gonna have to |
| Will | you gotta decide. And I'll have to decide, |
| Everett | yeah. You know, some people say, oh well they'll probably be in different they'll probably be in different leagues, right? Well, I still don't think I could root for two baseball teams. So it's too hard to root for one, right? You really I mean it's so much information. Uh more so than with basketball or or football even, right? It's really a lot of things you've got to keep keep track of. So anyway. Yeah, that's right. Hundred and sixty two games is tough. So and and I usually watch, you know, anywhere from I don't know, ninety to a hundred and twenty games most seasons, so I say watch. I've got a TV in my office that pretty much only plays Mariner's games. Um I dig |
| Will | it. I like it. That's a good purpose for a TV dedicated to one sports team. |
| Everett | That that's right. Yeah, that's right. Uh in any event, well, we're not here to talk about hockey or basketball or baseball. Rather, we're here to talk about watches, interestingly enough. |
| Will | Shocking. Uh and |
| Everett | and w sort of elephant in the room. Andrew's not here this week and you've decided to join us. You've decided to fill in. |
| Will | I did. I moved a whole six inches on my couch to make |
| Everett | I feel like this is a bit of an audit, actually. You're like dad's in town and so we we had to sweep up and dust the places that we never dust, that kind of thing. |
| Will | Yeah, you set the clock behind you to ten and two there. I like it. It looks |
| Everett | good. I notice these things. Well do you want uh uh since you're here since you're here do, you want the honors to get us started on what watch we should start talking about? |
| Unknown | Yeah. And let's kick |
| Will | it off with a good one. Okay. We're we're gonna go with the Chopard L-U-C XPS Prussian Blue. This is a 40mm stainless steel sportswatch. The one I'm looking at, because it's called Prussian Blue. a H baslue dial, as you would expect. Small seconds, um for uh you know, I I like to call a small seconds hand a two and a half hand watch, not a three-hander. Um |
| Everett | Okay. I I've never heard that, but I like that. |
| Will | I made it up right this second. Um but it's got kind of a busy-ish dial for you know that type of watch. There's lots of hash marks. Because we've got what does it got here? Th three rings, right? It's got the seconds going around or minutes, I guess it would be um your hour marks with each uh you know one two three four five in between and then it's got a couple more concentric rings kind of closing it out and then you've got your your small seconds in the the six o'clock position. So I wouldn't say this is like a a minimal watch, especially when you look at the absolutely fantastic handset. I want that handset on every watch. I really |
| Everett | Yeah, that handset's really the star of the show here, right? |
| Will | Yeah, it's got it's kind of goes fat for like the first third, and then it tapers down dramatically as it goes out for each of the hour and minute hand, and then the second's hand is more of just a you know regular old pointy hand. |
| Everett | Yeah. Chopard has ever had a big watches and wonders, and I think you know, just because of of the tone this show we largely skipped over m most of what they released. With with that said this is one that um this is one that we we did skip over but probably shouldn't have uh this thing is just fantastic. Fantastic. It's |
| Will | it's really n it's just nice. It's got a nice case shape. |
| Everett | Some people will probably say it's a smidge |
| Will | big at 40, but I think that's probably fine. Um me too. I bet it yeah, the lugs don't look super long. Um I don't think they list the lug to oh my god. The I just hit on um on their website description and specifications and the description. And it's like a |
| Everett | novel. Oh my god. It's just no |
| Will | skipping right over that. Don't care. Um seven point two millimeters thick. It is a thin bolt. Yeah, they don't list the lug to lug though, but I'm going with probably forty-six at the most. |
| Everett | That's what that's where my head's at. Yeah. This looks like a 46. Between 46 and 47, probably. Yeah. micro rotor in this thing. Um it it it's a automat in house obviously automatic movement that's three point three thin, which allows them to get the thinness down to dang near nothing. 7-2 is wild. |
| Will | Yeah, that is that's the they have a profile shot and it looks almost as thick as the strap. |
| Everett | Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. It's it's paper thin. This is this is a super thin watch. Um you know uh Chopard uses their often I'm not sure always but often uses their lucent steel that they've got a trademarked alloy, stainless stainless steel alloy. Uh I don't know anything about it. Um you know, I I think we're in the day and age where there's eight billion kinds of stainless steel, and so that might just be them saying this is ours and nobody else's, and there's value in that. Uh whether there's actually value or not, I don't know. |
| Will | Yeah, I don't know much about it. I'm gonna see if I can find out real quick. Um But it it does also come in a green dial, which I just noticed, and it is uh I don't know, um like a British racing foresty green kind of color. |
| Everett | Yeah. Like a sunburst, yeah. |
| Will | Yeah, and they both are sunbursts, so they they probably look really nice out in the sunlight. Uh this is a almost fourteen thousand dollar watch, so I will not be buying one anytime soon. Um doesn't look like anybody else can either just as get notified. I'm guessing they're out of stock. But I do like this. I wanna I wanna know this. The other option is contact an ambassador. So if like George Clooney was their ambassador instead of for Omega, could I like ring him up? |
| Everett | Yeah, just text him. Hey George. I'm I'm looking at the L U C XPS. Um no |
| Will | can you hook me up? $13,600 |
| Everett | US dollars on this. I I assume this is something. If you wanted to get one, you'd go through a boutique. Um I I'm I'm struggling to say, you know, oftentimes we see watches at this, you know, let's say $7,000 to $15,000 range, and you're like, eh, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's this brand, and yeah, yeah. But Chopart, I think, does a really good job, sort of differentiating themselves from other watches. I mean, seven too thick, 24 karat micro rotor, um, or twenty-two karat micro rotor. I mean, you're getting if you like the watch you're getting the value here this is an incredibly cost certified obviously this is an incredible watch i i if you're into it the the value is there for sure |
| Will | I'd say so. Uh the one thing I will say is if I was going to be buying a watch in this price range, it would probably be like a zenith El Primero, but I think if I was buying a watch in this price range, I probably wouldn't be too concerned about how many watches I'm buying in that price range. So |
| Everett | sure. Maybe not. |
| Will | I did look up Lucent Steel. I want to I want to talk about this for one second because you know our gold standard is 316L. This, the technical designation, is A223. So it is a proprietary uh steel composition. Um the defining feature of it is that it's composed of at least eighty percent recycled material. Um so they get it from high quality industrial waste from switch watch manufacturers. Yeah, with th this is some top tier recycling. Like they're not, you know, recycling your Pepsi can. |
| Everett | Yeah. Well you know, uh you you you said i if you're looking for a watch in this price range you,'re um you you're probably looking at zen zenithel primarily you know you know one of the things that I'm always nervous about with the zenith they they've got these like really complicated really fast movements that are super fragile and cause problems. You know, I uh but I do think, you know, we you've got JLC, you've got ALS, you've you've got some this is a competitive, you you know, we looked at the master control, three hand master control a couple weeks ago. You've got competition here, but uh again, like you said, if you're spending that kind of money on a watch, you maybe have enough to buy buy a couple. You can compare. |
| Will | Yeah, that that ten to fifteen thousand dollar range. I mean, that's like the uh rich people's version of the $1,000 to $1,500 range for the rest of us. That's right. Yeah. You know? Um But I mean yeah. I I think if it wasn't for the handset on this, I wouldn't be as into it as I am. Um I think it would be kind of boring, but that handset, it it man, it looks really |
| Everett | good. I want someone to make |
| Will | those so I can put them in a mod or something just to look at |
| Everett | it. Do they talk about their handset? I I mean this is clearly like a art deco esque piece, but do they do they name this? I mean the handset is really just |
| Will | I was gonna say that before. I don't know if there's a name for this type of handset. You know it's not sword or baton or I guess sword would be the closest, but looks like a throwing knife. |
| Everett | There it is. Dagger head. Or |
| Will | taking donations, uh throwing knife handset. |
| Everett | You know what it actually looks like, Will, especially the minutes hand? It looks like a letter opener. Letter opener handset. |
| Will | Or like a like a pipette almost. |
| Everett | Yeah. Pipe adhancet. Yeah.ah. |
| Will | Ye We're show hard. We're doing work for you guys. You need to hook us up with |
| Everett | one. Uh uh speaking. Or or just, you know, we'll do a review if you gift us the watch. |
| Will | Yeah. We promise we'll be nice. |
| Everett | We've got a wide reach. Um speaking of expensive things. Uh a couple weeks ago, Ming announced that their new titanium poly mesh bracelet is going to be available to the world. To the world. And by that, what they did is they announced in a collaboration with Fears, they announced a straight link version of their uh polymesh bracelet. Uh if you don't know what I'm talking about, last year Ming introduced a absolutely wild 3D printed mesh bracelet. So essentially it is titanium powder that's 3D printed into a bracelet, no fasteners, screws, um, bars, connections. The 3D printing actually creates the the connections between the I guess links is what I'll call them. |
| Will | Yeah. And it creates this |
| Everett | really, really compelling titanium mesh, right? We we know what like shark mesh is. Uh this is not that. This is more of like an angular, and based I've I've not handled one of these, but based on the renders, it looks like it's got a fabric um sort of feel to it. It's much more flexible than a traditional than a traditional shark mesh or whatever. |
| Will | Yeah, like in their the press photos and stuff, you know, they they show how flexible it is. And it it kind of looks like just opposing triangles just next to each other. |
| Everett | Yeah. Um you know like equilateral |
| Will | opposing triangles basically. And then on the ends there's like a little slant and then, you know, it it it could just goes in straight. I uh I didn't realize until you said it that it was 3D printed, which is interesting because there's lots of like in plastic 3D printing, there's lots of these kind of like flex flexible mesh type like quote unquote fabrics that people print. Um you know, like people print like chain mail and stuff like that. And I'm |
| Everett | yeah, right. That's what this |
| Will | is, essentially, right? Yeah, I I'm interested if you could print one of these basically out of plastic just to like prototype something like this. I'm sure that's how they started. Um |
| Everett | doubt it wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't |
| Will | be durable. You know, you put any stress on it's gonna crack. But um Yeah, it's it's it's interesting. Um I don't think that I would ever pay fifteen hundred dollars or whatever they're charging for this. Um I know the curved one that they have was fifteen hundred. I'm assuming the straight ends probably about |
| Everett | fifteen hundred, yep. Yeah. So uh |
| Will | nineteen hundred dollars. Oh |
| Everett | there you go. Yeah. You know, that that's it it's an interesting well it's an interesting thought because I well, I'll just say I had the same thought as I was as I was reading James Stacy's write-up on this. You know, James Stacy, obviously a guy that knows a lot about watches, he's been in the industry for a long time, but the guy's a sucker for a pretty, uh, uh, a shiny object, right? And this is sort of like right up his alley, but he's just kind of gaga over this thing. Um on his hodinky ride up and really doesn't he says, you know, suure, 1500 francs is a lot for a strap, arguably even more so when you put it on a watch of similar value, but it's just so good, and it's not a wild amount of cash for a high quality bracelet. Well, let's go back. Because uh he says some true things. S fifteen hundred Swiss francs is a lot for a strap. Uh yeah, you you're right, James. Uh but i it's not a wild amount of cash for a high quality bracelet. Are there fifteen |
| Unknown | hundred dollar bracelets? I I mean I'm sure that there |
| Everett | are, right? I I'm sure that like uh some of the Rolex bracelets it's titanium i but this is really what you're getting is fitted OEM pricing for |
| Will | a straight end bracelet. Frustrated |
| Everett | bracelet. I I'm I'm not I'm not willing to say it's too much money for me. Like I could see myself. He's got this on that Brightling Anna Digi and I'm like |
| Will | whatever the thing's called. And I'm |
| Everett | like, yeah, that's fucking dope. I I I can see myself buying one of these for in a situation like that. If you've got a titanium a titanium watch that's sort of strap only and you want a badass. I can see myself doing it in a situation like |
| Will | that. See this th that's the thing is it's very specific. You you're not gonna put this on a stainless steel watch because it'll look stupid. |
| Everett | Right. And you |
| Will | need to have a titanium watch that looks good on straight-end bracelets. So I think your customer pool is already very small. And if it's that small and specialized, it's probably like, yeah, shit, I'll pay that. No problem. I it don't see the draw I'm sure it's very comfortable, but yeah, I I don't know. I I have a hard time justifying even with the RD that I'm sure went into it. You know, I think that's really what you're paying for. But man, that's a lot of cash for a |
| Everett | printed titanium bracelet. Yeah. Yeah. I will admit though, in this bridling aerospace, I'm like |
| Will | It does look good. Okay, |
| Everett | I kind of see. Alright, well that's not actually a watch, but it is a watch thing, so it counts. What's next? |
| Will | All right. I'm gonna go up to Kinda kinda along the same vein as what you just did. This is a watch thing, but I guess it is a watch, so we'll just talk about it. |
| Everett | It is a watch, yeah. DIY |
| Will | Watch Club, um, who I've reviewed and put together several of their watches. Um, they have partnered up with the Wind Up Watch Fair to do I think it was in the San Francisco wind up. |
| Everett | That's right. Yeah, that's right. Um first part of May. So just what, a couple weeks |
| Will | here. Yeah, yeah. And uh basically what they're they're kind of billing it as is you know you can leave wind up with a watch that you built, you know, you take uh it's like a |
| Everett | this is next weekend, by the way. Yeah, sorry, just to correct. |
| Will | Yeah. Coming up. Um Or was it this weekend? I think it was this weekend. |
| Everett | No, Ma May second, Sunday, May 3rd. Uh Saturday, May 2nd, Sunday, May 3rd. |
| Will | Cool. Thank you. Um yeah, so they are calling it a Warren Wound DIY watch club watchmaking class at Wind Up Watch Fair. Um so if you've never put together one of these or seen them. Um it's it's pretty nice the way they do it. Uh if you were to buy one, basically what they do is they send you the components for the watch and then um like a basic watch making kit, you know, like handsetters, a screwdriver, um the whatever the hell the wood's called, you know, that you can you can scrape with pegwood, um you know, case opener, all that kind of stuff. Basically what you would need to just put together a Seiko NH movement into a watch, not put together the movement itself. They have different upgrades you can do, like you can get a nicer, you know, watchmaking kit and stuff, but I think this is a really cool thing to offer and their tutorials on YouTube when you buy one of these kits are pretty good but I think for some people that are maybe hesitant to do that this is probably the best way to kind of break into that. It's like uh 500 bucks, um, which I want to say is a little bit more expensive than one of their kits if you were to buy one online, but I haven't looked at the prices in a little bit. Um so five hundred bucks, you get you know, I'm sure you can ask questions and, you know, probably get some goodies, you know, or something to kind of help justify the price a little bit. But I think it's a really cool cool thing to do and you know if they have still have spots open and you're interested, I would definitely recommend it. |
| Everett | Yeah I mean I think it's the kind of thing that some people might be disinclined to do because you know you don't know you don't know what you don't know until you start doing it, right? |
| Will | And so if you're if you're you know |
| Everett | like, gosh, I'm gonna spend you know five hundred bucks on this kit and, then I'm gonna get this fucking thing and I'm not gonna be able to do it because my hands shake, or I don't have the dexterity, or I don't know if I have enough dexterity. |
| Will | Yep. Uh this sort of eliminates |
| Everett | that that risk, right? You're you're gonna pay the money to be there, but someone's gonna be there to say, Oh, you're stuck, let's hand hold you through this thing you're stuck on. Uh and and I'll just say, as someone who's taken apart and put together, you know, well, at this point, a few hundred a few hundred watches with the Miyota movement. There are times where I'm like, I I don't know, I can't get this handset in. And even that's happened recently to me, where I'm like, I cannot for the life of me set these hands. So it would be nice to have, you know, especially if you've never done it before. It's scary. Uh you know, yeah I, remember the first time I opened the case back on my SKX and I was like, you know. |
| Will | Oh yeah. It's like I've broken the seal. It's it sucks now. Yeah. So I did look. Uh I I just went on their website. So their dive watch kits, which is probably what you build at the the wind up show. Um they range anywhere. It looks between like $385 and $625, depending on, you know, if you want like a basic dive watch or GMT, that sort of thing. So I'd say that that price is actually pretty solid. Um |
| Everett | Yeah, I think so. I think that's |
| Will | a really cool I I mean if |
| Everett | you're gonna be there. I would sign up for that. |
| Will | Yeah. Yeah. I I think I would do that because I've done their kits, but I think like you said, I always struggle with setting hands, especially the second's hand. And just for that alone, to like ask a question like give me the you know the best practice for doing this and to have someone show you would probably be worth the price of entry. You know, especially if you want to start modding watches. |
| Everett | Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, well, I'm gonna talk about a watch or or actually a a series of watches that was released with Watches and Wonders um that has been on our lists for the last two weeks that we haven't gotten to. This is the Tag Hoyer Formula One Solar Graft Pastel Collection. So uh a few years ago, last year, Tag released its Formula One Solar Graph releases and we talked about it on the show. I I am just a huge, huge fan of everything about these watches, but for the price. We'll come back to that. Because it's it's not a small it's not a small price. With that said, they released the full set of these things now in pastels. So we've got on their resin straps, we've got a sort of a corally pink, we've got a yellow, and then we've got a blue, a pastel blue. And then on the steel, we've got |
| Unknown | Lost Everett. |
| Will | I lost you. And now you're back. |
| Everett | I th I think I need to let me see here. I think I need to put myself on DND because I got a bunch of text messages and then it lost you. |
| Will | Ah. That'll do it. |
| Everett | So And then I'll make a I'll make a timestamp. I haven't had to do that. You you kept it on record, right? |
| Will | Yep. Yeah, I kept going. I I said right after I lost you that I lost you, so you'll probably be able to see that there. |
| Everett | Well and I'll have it. I'll have it marked on my time. So I'm just gonna start again with the so I'm gonna take a pause and start again with the descriptions of the watches. |
| Will | Go for it So |
| Everett | what you have here is five different watches in various pastel colors. Three of these come on uh tag sort of recycled plastic strap, the sort of the OG Formula One strap. That's and that's like a corally pink, a pastel yellow, and then a pastel blue. And then we've got two, these I think are the stars of the show. Two of these come in the stainless bracelet and mid-case model. One of those is like a pastel purple with pink accents, and the other one is a like a pastel green. |
| Will | They have diamond dials too, those two. Yo. |
| Everett | These things are sweet. So these are still 38 millimeter. Um, which is to say I think that these are slightly more or could be a slightly more feminine watch, especially with the diamond diamond dials. Uh, with that said, there's nothing there's nothing particularly feminine about them. They are besides that they're pastel. Um I want one. |
| Will | Yeah, I I really like the that the pastel blue one. Um the on the rubber. Um it's interesting they call 'em pastels and I see where they're going, but they're very muted. They are not bright pastels that are kind of like a shock to the eye, you know, where it's like I am celebrating Easter with my watch. You know, it does a |
| Everett | very low s low saturation pastel. |
| Will | Yeah, yeah. It it they almost look like a colored pencil pastel. You know, if you just kinda rubbed it across paper, you know, it do it's not super bright. Um I do really like the the uh the blue one. I think like, you know hits for summer perfectly, right? It's kinda what it seems like they're going for. Uh you got Mercedes Hand which, you know, some people are gonna love it or hate it. And the diamond dial, same thing. Love it or hate it. I'm sure there's some dudes out there that'll rock the diamond dial, and man, more power to you. |
| Everett | Yeah. Well, I'm I'm telling you, I I think I could, especially that green, that green with diamond, I would have no problems. I would have no problems wearing. Now uh I'm gonna just I'm just gonna now sort of let the wind out of my sails a little bit here because these are not these are not cheap watches. So they have Tag Hoyers, what they call their TH50-00 solar graph movement. It's look, guys, this is a solar quartz movement. Uh on the plastic, these come in at $1,950. And in steel $2,800. |
| Will | Yeah, it's a tower breaker. For |
| Everett | me, is a very tough pill to swallow for an EcoDrive taquiller |
| Will | Yeah. You know, I I I agree. They're I think just the fact that they put Formula One on here is like we're going for the the people that a two thousand dollar quartz watch means nothing to them. You know, that's just like this is cool, I can wear this on Friday, you know, at the dinner party that's by the pool. But I I do like them. I I think it's interesting that more of these big Swiss brands are starting to open up to these um fun quartz watches. It it makes me wonder, you know, with the trends kind of trickling down into the more affordable segment, if you'll see more of these pop up from micro brands. There's been some of that, you know, I think of um Andrew Perez, you know, with Solabs and |
| Everett | those really cool um |
| Will | oh god, what were they called? The were they called what man, what the heck were they called? The layer. There it is. Um you know |
| Everett | and layer two. Yep, yep. Yeah. I mean |
| Will | stuff like that I think is really cool and you know that kind of feels like these could be made by the same people in you know, different places. |
| Everett | co Ourfse we've got y you know the the um space the the you know space swatch what the m the moon swatches and then we've got the blanc pond 50 Fathom swatches, which uh obviously have opened the door for this kind of thing. Um, but uh tag hoyer seems to be playing a slightly different game, you know. If this was five hundred bucks like a moon swatch or four hundred and fifty bucks, it's crazy good deal. But I I I still think they could get away with a thousand. Like I'd pay $1,1 for00 one of these. Uh, but $2,000, just under $2,000, man. I got a hard time. |
| Will | Yeah. I I kind of wish that they did. Um, you know, i the diamond dials, sure. Leave them at twenty eight hundred. Who gives a crap? You know, it's got diamonds on it. People pay a premium for it. But I I agree with you. I kinda wish that they took a bit of a softer approach when it came to pricing on the foley resin or plastic, whatever they're calling it, um just to make it a little bit more accessible and you know, who knows? Maybe they will in a year or two they'll come out with a non Formula One version that's cheaper, you know. You never know. |
| Everett | I don't know how much the Blanc Pon I think the Blanc Pond swatch watches are six hundred and fifty dollars. It it just seems like it tags kind of thumb in their nose at that you know |
| Will | it's what are you doing here what are you doing |
| Everett | here, Tag? Yeah. It |
| Will | it does feel like that a little bit. It's like this is the way you make a fun courts watch or something, you know. Um but yeah, I don't know, two thousand dollars, it's a hard pill to swallow. Especially because when we were talking about this show pard before, you know, it's it's like for our affordability, you know, that one thousand to fifteen hundred dollar segment is very crowded and you know these are kind of sitting right in there. |
| Everett | The they should be, but they're not. They're sitting above that, like assholes. Well what's next, Will? |
| Will | All right, let me see what I got here. |
| Everett | Y you know, one of the watches one of the watches on your list was a watch that we talked about last week, but you had had it on your list and I said, Well, let's keep this on there because I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Uh the the Hamilton khaki Field mechanical thirty-six of the 250th Ameriversary Watch. I just made that word up, by the |
| Will | way. Amerivers. I like that. |
| Everett | Will this is a watch that I'll just tell you, I'll give you the the reader's digest version of Andrew and I. We I think we both had the same reaction, which is oh God, here's Hamilton with another uh uh call of duty watch that's gonna be totally lazy and totally shitty and then and then getting into the article and being like holy freak this, is rad. Uh I am I am a really huge fan of this watch. And I think Andrew was too. |
| Will | What are your thoughts, sir? Sorry, you cut out for a second, sorry. Um let's let's back up one second. |
| Everett | I am a really big fan of this watch. Will w w what are your thoughts? |
| Will | I like it. I especially because I've owned and or tried on a couple different khaki fields in my life. And they've got long lugs. And I don't like long lugs, especially on like a 38mm watch. It makes it just feel weird. And this has uh I don't see a lug to lug, but I'm sure it's looks like forty six, forty seven maybe. Like they're long. |
| Everett | I think that's what I think that's what we determined. They're pretty long lugs. |
| Will | Forty six point two. There we go. Um and you've got so you've got an eighteen mil lug width too. What I what I like about it, which I think sets it apart a little bit from like the rest of the khaki fields is they did the stylized Hamilton text. You know, it's kind of italic looking. I think the regular khaki fields is just like block lettering almost. Um Yeah, the rest of it is is pretty much your standard khaki field fare, but what's the premium on these is the question. |
| Everett | It's not a lot. These are these come in at I mean they're limited, but I think they're coming in at 875. Yeah, 725. There you |
| Will | go. Oh, and uh just I don't know if you guys talked about this last week, I don't remember. Limited to seven hundred and seventeen seventy-six seventeen seventy-six numbered units. How beautiful is that. |
| Everett | We did talk about that. You know, I think that um this would be a really great time for Hamilton to sell out of these and then come back with a release that has the vintage sporting goods khaki logo on it. You know what I'm talking about? |
| Will | Make the LL Bean version again. |
| Everett | That's right. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I think that logo is so precious that Hamilton needs to figure out a place to use that. For me, if they were gonna release this as a regular run, if they were going to release this ki mid-case as a regular run, that is a an opportunity to use that LOB and khaki logo. |
| Will | It it would be awesome if they could do that because the nostalgia bait on that would be real hardcore because that watch just screams like nineties. You know, the the way the logos look, just the watch in general, you know, just kind of has that vibe to it. Um yeah, I agree with you. I think uh doing a little bit more with this same case size would do them well. You know, I they don't have a problem selling khaki fields, that's why they come out with a billion of them, but um yeah, seven twenty five for thirty-six millimeter, pretty cool looking watch that you can tell everybody you got it for the uh what's the two hundred and fiftieth call that's not a is that a bicentennial what is |
| Everett | that? No, it is something is it sesquicentennial? |
| Will | Yeah it's something weird. Yeah. |
| Everett | Yeah. Uh I think actually the article you said gives gives the I I have Sesquicentennial in my head. Uh Sesquicentennial sesquicentennial is the one hundred and fiftieth of a sign. So I can't buy sesquis centennial. |
| Unknown | No, that's gotta be for your semi a semiquinnial. |
| Everett | There you go. There you go. |
| Will | Yeah. Uh yeah. I I I |
| Everett | so we'll talk about this two weeks in a row. I think this watch is fantastic. I'm really pumped about it. Um Alright. |
| Will | Now let me put this one to you. |
| Everett | Oh please go. No, |
| Will | I'm gonna let you take the next one, but why don't we do our two that are from the same brand back to back. |
| Everett | Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do |
| Will | it. You lead it off. |
| Everett | Well let's see. Uh we don't have another Hamilton, do we? |
| Unknown | No, no, no. Uh Piaget. |
| Everett | Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Piaget releases their this is a novelty of watches and Wonders novelty. It is their Andy Warhol, Lapis Lozoli, and Clou de Perry Bezel. This is a watch that I saw and was just instantly like Alright. I don't have enough money, but you can take what I have if I can borrow it. Uh |
| Will | this this watch screams Everett like just wearing this on the weekends. I can see it happening. |
| Everett | Can't you see me wearing this? Picture me. Uh hey, these guys say |
| Will | you can contact an ambassador too. Must be a thing. It |
| Everett | I want to find out who their most |
| Will | most famous ambassador is and see if we can get those people on the phone. |
| Everett | So Piaget, uh the Andy Warhol, this is sort of a a rounded square. If you don't know what it is, just take a look. Uh uh this particular version is forty five by forty three millimeters, making it not quite a square. We've got hidden or sort of hooded lugs that are recessed into the bottom of the case. This one comes in 18 karat gold, 18 karat rose gold. |
| Will | Yep. That's 8.08 |
| Everett | millimeters thick, which is to say very thin. Uh, and it has a wonderful, wonderful lapis lozzly blue dial with gold flex, just sort of the deepest blue you'll ever see in your life. And then it's rimmed by a hobnail, what they call it. |
| Unknown | Oh, I lost you again. |
| Everett | Nope. Just i i y you know |
| Will | what, because we're recording separately, Will, |
| Everett | try to talk through those times. |
| Will | Call Everett Meadows. |
| Unknown | Yellow. Uh |
| Will | should we just switch to regular voice? |
| Everett | Yeah, that might be that might be easier. I |
| Will | think we're we're hitting some some stuff here. Um alright. So you I lost you right when you were talking about the flex on the |
| Everett | Got it. Uh so I'm just gonna run |
| Will | from the dimensions, basically. |
| Everett | Yeah. Uh I kept going. I'm trying to figure out do I get to the end of my uh yeah, so I'll I'll just go back. Yeah they've got like it and and because it's stone it's really random right each of these dials is gonna be sort of different but it's got it's not it doesn't look like a venturine but it's got that's a similar sort of vibe to it, right? That blue with the stars bursting through. Uh man, it is really striking. |
| Will | I mean this in a very nice way. It it almost looks like algae on water. Like a a little bit. You know, I don't mean that in a bad way because it it does look really cool, but that's like the thing that came to mind. Um you know like that deep ocean blue with, you know. Some some stuff floating in it. We'll we'll call it uh bioluminescence or something. We'll be nice about it. |
| Everett | Yeah, I like it. Yeah, that's good. |
| Will | Um Yeah, this this is I I mean I could never pull this off. Uh if someone gave it to me, I'd wear it. But this is uh this kind of reminds me of the show part a little bit. It's got um you know super thin case. I think you said it, it's eight millimeters. The movement is three point six millimeters. Um you know, beautifully finished all around. I mean it it's piaget. What's not to like? It's only sixty five thousand dollars. We'll get two. |
| Everett | Well, and despite the dial, I think really the star of the show is the hobnail bezel, the Clou du Paris, which I think is |
| Will | uh translates to Nails of |
| Everett | Paris. Uh that hobnail bezel is terrific. It's a it's a guilloche hobnail that's just flawless. And and the hobnail sort of curves around the curves around the circumference of the bells. It's fan this is a fantastic watch. I i if you like this sort of thing and you've got sixty five thousand dollars burning a hole in your pocket, uh take a look. |
| Will | So not not that we're talking in the the same price range here, but if I'm gonna buy an automatic watch that only has two hands. I tell you I'm not gonna buy the Omega Constellation Observatory for uh let's see. Their comparable one would be the thirty-inen point four millimeter moonshine gold on gold for fifty nine thousand dollars, I'm gonna buy this for six thousand dollars more and be a happy man. |
| Everett | Well, I I don't know if you listen to the show where we talked about that watch. |
| Will | Oh yeah. It it's drives me nuts. |
| Everett | That is one of I think that is one of the most disappointing watches that Omega's ever really |
| Will | Yeah. Well it you know the viewers are gonna get a a preview here for a potential future show. Uh we were talking beforehand about I was like, should we talk about Omega's catalog. But we'll save that for a future episode. But yeah, it it's i if I'm getting a a two-hand watch like this, this is what I'm going for. I'm going for over the top, beautiful finishing. Like anybody looks at this and they're gonna be like, I know shit about watches, but tell me about that. Like that will happen with this. |
| Everett | And also you're a classy motherfucker. |
| Will | You sure are. Which is which is going to lead us right into being a slightly more frugal classy motherfucker with the Piaget Polo signature date. Uh which I know you like the polo, right? Isn't that uh one of your one of your grails? Isn't it the polo? |
| Everett | I don't know if I'd call it a grail, but I am a huge fan of the polo. The polo S is, I think, one of those watches that if I had to just pick a watch, I would have to really look hard at. |
| Will | Yes. Yeah. And and this is uh this was introduced, I think, during Wchesat and Wonders. Um it is much more affordable at fourteen thousand dollars. Um Hey, they have a thing you can reserve and try. I'm sure they don't mail it to your home. I know what that means. But one can wish. Um but anyway. Uh this is this kinda, you know, it feels like Nautilus a little bit, you know, Patek Nautilus kind of kind of vibe. You know, it's got not a not a circular case, not a square case, uh, you know, with the the horizontal brushing on the bezel, um, integrated rub rubber strap. It's 42 millimeters, so it's it's a little bit bigger than um oh no, the what's the Nautilus? Isn't that 42? |
| Everett | I think so, yeah. They |
| Will | just came out with a 38 or something, didn't they? And watches and wonders. Something like that. You know, who gives a shit? No one can get it. Um You know that this is I I think I like this more than an Autolus, to be honest. It it feels classier. You know, it's got it's got these broad stripes on the dials. The Piaget logo just looks insane. Um the counterbalance on the second hand is this diamond with a P in the middle. Like, god damn. It's just so cool looking. |
| Everett | You know it',s hard to imagine that Eve Piaget was not channeling his inner Gerald Genta when he designed this watch. W with that said, uh there's a couple of differences, I I think really notable differences between this watch and the Nautilus that are I think maybe important to the watch and and it and say something about EFPJ, which is A, we've got no screws on the bezel, right? That's something that I think even if you even if you love the Nautilus, you have to admit that that's a weird, it' its's a move, right? It's a decision. Eve Piaget says, no, no, no, I don't need that, and I'm not going to put them there. And also, it's not integrated. So at a time when integrated was sort of running the world, this watch comes out just regular old lugs, captive strap in regular old lugs. And that's true. That's true with these. Uh you can put a strap on these, or you can keep it on the absolutely wonderful uh H-link bracelet or you know, whatever. You get choices here. This is not an integrated steel sports watch. It is just a steel sports watch. And that is I don't know, I think today, I think in twenty twenty-six, that's revelatory, even though this is all very old stuff. So it's hard to say it's revelatory. But |
| Will | yeah, coup a couple of relic relevant. A couple things that I like about it, aside from the Nautilus vibes, without being a Nautilus. It's got a nice crown. |
| Everett | Yeah. It doesn't look too small. |
| Will | It is very thin at 9.4. Um and I'm I I don't see a lug measurement, a lug-to-lug measurement. I'm going with these are very short lugs. If you look at that profile shot, they really don't stick out much further than the forty-two millimeter case width. |
| Everett | That's right. And even the the bracelet, if you look at the end link on the bracelet, it it really arches down quickly because this gets away, this is going down from the dial or the crystal at a pretty sharp angle. So I I have to imagine that's one of those features that is gonna work really well for some people. At 42, I think if you've got a seven-inch wrist, this is going to be phenomenal. But if you're like a eight-inch wrist, you know, Paul Bunyan type, that might not work. I don't know. You'd have to you'd probably want to try this on. |
| Will | Apparently they have a 36 millimeter version. |
| Everett | And and because of the way this watch sits, because of how small the dial is relative to the mid-case. I I bet that that thirty-six wears pretty small. |
| Will | Yes. I would probably say so. I |
| Everett | think forty two is the right is is the right dimension for this one. |
| Will | Yeahah., ye And it it does look really good on that bracelet. Um you know the finishing on this is out of this world. Um and it so the the bracelet looks like I think it's polished with brushed center links. That's what it looks like and if that's the case that it probably looks baller on the wrist. It probably looks so good. |
| Everett | I I I think so. I think so. This is a really terrific watch, Will. |
| Will | Yeah. Yeah. I this this kind of puts me in the camp of maybe you're not so crazy about the polo S. Maybe it maybe this makes sense. |
| Everett | You know, I would uh I would say like for for me I I think about m I I've sort of got like my watch collection in a place where I'm really happy with it. You know, which is to say I've got my Speedmaster. I've well l let's just be clear. I've got like 45 watches. But I've got my Speedmaster. I've got my C Master. I've got my Foster 11 Atmos, which is sort of my everyday play watch. I've got my um Monta Triumph and then I've got my Formex Essence. And really, that's my like five or six watch rotation right now, and that's taking up most of my wrist time. I've got a few, you know, G Shock get some time. I've got a few other things that get that get plugged in there. I have a a mind to get an IWC Mark fifteen. It w if and when, if and when, the the Monta goes a the Monta Triumph goes away. |
| Will | Yeah. Because because I just don't need both |
| Everett | of those watches. This is the 4 Max Essence, right? If I want a 4 Max essence that costs roughly 10 times as much. This is the one I get |
| Will | to fill that space, right? This |
| Everett | feels to me. It's dressier than a form X essence, which fits, which fits, right? But I I this does for me the same exact and I love my format's essence. Uh, this has got that playful sports watch. I really like this thing a |
| Will | lot. Yeah, it it's it's slaps. And I mean, you know, my thing is like you said, this is dressier than a form X essence, and you know, it is. And honestly, the way I look at it, um I think we've talked about this years ago, but like I wear my Speedmaster as a dress watch. Like if I go to a wedding, I wear my Speedmaster. |
| Everett | No problem with that. Yeah, and |
| Will | maybe that's not correct, you know, by the Watch Neckbeards uh rule book. But you know, I I think when if you spending fifteen twenty thousand dollars on a watch, wear it however the hell you want. If you want to wear it with your tuxedo, go for it. And I mean this this watch would fit easily into that, um, albeit a little bit big, but um it it's it's really good. I love it. What do you got next, Everett? |
| Unknown | Yeah, I think the next watch I, |
| Everett | want to talk about, you. You know, notice is a brand that we've talked about on this show a bucket list of time or a bucket load of times. With that said, I think recently notice has dropped out of the press release game. Um you you know, I think when they did their Canyon uh their Matt Ferris stuff. There was press release action there, but notice releases a lot of watches uh without singing loud and proud about it. Uh and so I think we missed some releases. When we changed formats of the show, we really kind of went to a press release model. And and so uh it means sometimes we miss watches that don't get press released. And that's one of this is one of those. They released, I think a couple weeks ago now, their sector two field watch titaniums in a in three Saracote versions. |
| Will | Have you heard about these, Will? I did. Um I don't it's interesting because I'm trying to remember if I got a press release from this or not. And I I'm trying to remember if I got the press release or just that it launched. But I did I do know that they at least launched. I remember I saw that. And these are very cool. They are earth tone. Sorry. They are earth tone is what I would classify the colors as. You know, it's green, blue, and brown. And |
| Everett | that's right. You know, the sector field has |
| Will | always been a very good looking field watch. Notice does a great job with them. They got that nice big crown, very legible. Um they've got a lot of different dial elements going on with the the little um I don't even know what you'd call it, the little sunken lines in between the inner 24-hour track. Yeah, they've got the |
| Everett | 24 they've got like a a loomed indentation between their twenty-four hour markers on the inner on that sector or that inner dial. Uh I don't think it's on |
| Will | these those. On these are these |
| Everett | notes. I think they they were gonna |
| Will | be when they first launched them, but I don't think they are. |
| Everett | Oh yeah, I'm looking I'm looking at the loom shots and it and I think you're right. |
| Will | Yeah, it's kinda like a sandwich dial effect, but I don't know that it actually is a sandwich dial, but maybe that's the only way to do it, I'm not sure. |
| Everett | Yeah. Well uh the star of the show here is the Sarakote case and Sarakote's a really interesting material. You know it's it's hard, uh wishes to say it is scratch resistant, but it's also brittle. So it does tend to, you know, if you're really hard on your watches, this is going to develop some patina. I think for a field watch, it's a really compelling coating. You're not going to get any shine. You're not going to get any glare. I think these watches are so cool. I really like the green one. It's sort of an OD, you know, look looks like something you'd wear in the jungle in Vietnam, perhaps. Uh man, I |
| Will | I love this watch. Uh I I agree sorry, go ahead, Everett. |
| Everett | Well, I was gonna say I notice doing what they're doing. This is a six hundred dollar NH thirty-five or uh NH thirty eight and NH thirty |
| Will | something. Yeah, TMI NH |
| Everett | thirty eight. So uh which is the you know current version of the NH thirty five. Uh yeah, love it. You what were you gonna say, Will? |
| Will | Um yeah, uh uh the green one I like. Uh I'd probably gravitate a little bit more towards the blue. Um the only thing I don't like about 'em is You |
| Everett | always do. Yes, because I'm boring. |
| Will | Um I the the only thing I don't like about 'em is the loom color. I don't like the the tan loom. I'm not calling it aged loom because I don't for. Um it it it works on the watches, it doesn't work for me. Uh I like white loom on watches because I'm boring. |
| Everett | Yeah, well the you know, we've we've gotten in trouble on this show because we've been so hard on Fotina, so people have said, okay, we get it. You don't like Fotina. Um but it's true. We don't like Fotina. And I would say this isn't you're you're right, Will, this isn't quite Fotina, but it's just tan when it could be white. Like just I yeah, why? Well just make it white. |
| Will | But Yeah. I I think it works for the the brown one especially. Um you know, it I think white would actually look off there. But for the blue and the green one, I bet it would probably work. Maybe more so for the blue than the green, but Notice knows what they're doing. |
| Everett | They know what they're doing. Design wise, they haven't really they haven't really done anything wild here, but they've this is an iteration of an existing platform that I that I really like. Uh w one one more sort of this is really this is really really an annoying criticism but they're the brown is sort of a I don't know what were we kind of gonna call this like a dark flat dark earth like |
| Will | yeah but I think if this was a coyote |
| Everett | tan, like a more like vibrant brown, it would work a little bit better. But |
| Will | uh if it was the the color of the the Seiko Sefarni |
| Everett | Yes. Do you know what I'm talking about? If it |
| Will | was that color. Oh man. I I think I would probably buy one if it had that color. Because it it's like tactical without being tactical. You know, it it doesn't cross that line. Um, but they're they're still great. I I really like what they did with the strap on the brown one too, where it's it's kind of camouflage, but it's not. It just has the colors that you would associate with a brown camouflage, uh, without leaning into that, you know, hi am I ever gonna go duck hunting? You know, let me get my camouflage strap. |
| Everett | Yeah, that's right. Uh these these are great though. The ri really cool watches. Will Will do you have any more watches that you want to talk about before we before we move on? |
| Will | Um we had crossed on a couple. Uh we had overlapped. And the one that we didn't, which I I feel like we're running out of time to talk and I want to talk about this one. |
| Everett | No, we we can go as long as we want, man.. |
| Unknown | That's right I'm the boss. Everybody loves you will. You're the boss. In this instance, I'm the |
| Everett | boss, but you keep going. |
| Will | Um No, I want to talk about the um the Brett Favre Luba. I'm calling it the Bretfarve Luba because it's the Favre Farve Lu I don't know what it is, but it's spelled like Brett Favre. |
| Everett | I think Favre Luba. Fav Favre Luba? Favre Luba? |
| Will | Yeah, we're calling it Brett Fav Luba. Uh, but it is the Harpoon Revival, and I'll be honest, I never heard of this brand before you sent this over, and I really dig this. Um I, think it it looks it looks like a skin diver without being a skin diver. |
| Everett | Yeah. It's probably |
| Will | the best way to put it. That Far Luba |
| Everett | is has been around since 17en thirty seven which makes them older than the United States. |
| Will | Yeah, you know, so fuck me, right? I'm an idiot. D I don't know anything. Um |
| Everett | I I mean it's not a w I don't think we've ever talked about this brand on the show. I |
| Will | have never reviewed them. I don't think I've ever published a press release from them. So sorry guys. Um I'm butchering your name and your history. Um but But I do like this watch. It's pretty cool. Um it makes me want to check out their other stuff because it |
| Unknown | it's it's just really interesting. |
| Will | It's got this kind of This like |
| Unknown | stadium uh |
| Will | chapter ring, stadium seat like chapter ring, you know where it curves down in and then the the dial looks like convex almost. Um Yeah. |
| Everett | The dial curves down into the chapter ring, yeah. |
| Will | Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, it's got those really interesting um markers at twelve, nine, and six. Um they're |
| Everett | framed frame date window at three. |
| Will | Freaking awesome frame date window. They didn't just slap a piece of stainless steel around it. It's got nice bevels on it and everything. It looks really good. Very well executed. |
| Everett | Yeah, so this is a so I don't know if we said it. This is called the Harpoon, and it's a revival of a 1966 watch. Uh, the 60th anniversary of the original 1966 harpoon. Uh, it is faithful to the original dimensions, which is to say it's 37 millimeters wide and 10 millimeters thick uh in polished steel. It is |
| Will | very short lug to lug at 43.5. Because when I when I looked at this, one of the first pictures I saw was a wrist shot, and I was like, ooh man, that thing looks like it lays kind of flat. Um but then I saw how small it was and I was like, I think this person who has the it on their wrist has like a four inch wrist. |
| Everett | This is a tiny man with hot dog wrists. |
| Will | It it you can kind of tell after you look at the size of the watch to the size of the wrist. Um anyway, that's besides the point. Uh there's a couple things that uh I I wish that they changed. One is the water resistant rating. It's only five atmospheres. With a name like Harpoon, can we just give it ten? |
| Everett | Yeah. It can't be that hard, right? Or ele or eleven atmospheres? |
| Will | Or eleven. Yeah. We don't want any copyright infringement here, though. Um And then they show the picture of the original on their their uh product page. Why didn't we recreate this really cool looking bracelet? |
| Everett | Yeah, that's that's my one complaint. They've got a fantastic sh very short link, three-link on that original, and it is epic. If they had made that in modern materials, holy cow. |
| Will | It would it would look so good. And |
| Everett | yeah. They um |
| Will | they put it on so it comes on a crocodile leather strap, which is like of all the straps you're gonna pick Jesus Christmas. Can we not get something else? Like it's such like a I just needed a a watch strap and I went to the crocodile factory and you know got this one because that was all they had. I just I I don't like it. Put that bracelet on it. |
| Unknown | It'd be so good. Yeah. |
| Everett | Yeah. Y you know, this would look really good on one of the uh on one of the uh well, like a bunk clip or something like that, you know. |
| Will | Yeah, 'cause that's kinda what it looks like. You know, at the the original bracelet. Yeah. You know, it's something like that, or even like a like a spidel almost, you know, like one of those stretchy bracelets. I don't know, maybe that's what it was, you know, a stretchy bracelet. |
| Everett | I I don't think it is. I think it's a three link, but it y this would this would fuck on a on a s on a twisto flex. |
| Will | Yeah I'd want fitted fitted ends though which they show that on the original it had it. Um and they I'm looking at some of their other watches. They make nice looking bracelets on some of their other their other things. Like I don't know. I think it's a miss there. |
| Everett | They've got the ability. They've got the technology. |
| Will | Yeah, like um they've got, uh just real quick, they've got this |
| Unknown | Jubilee-esque five-link |
| Will | bracelet on this deep raider revival. |
| Everett | Yes. Uh, which is |
| Will | a looks like just a three hander with a date. Um, it's a dive watch. But that bracelet looks pretty cool. Like, just put that on it. It would work. |
| Everett | These guys th these guys, I think they get lost in the sauce a little bit. Um That's |
| Will | why we never heard of them. They're really fucking up. |
| Everett | Some some of their watches are like you're like, well, this this looks w what rand the Chinese him is this? Um and that's not fair to them, uh obviously, because I don't know anything about 'em, but they've got some skeletonized and some |
| Will | Yeah yeah ye,ah, yeah. Anyway, |
| Everett | this is not that. This is a really, really terrific watch. And I'm with you, Will. It really should be on a bracelet. Um, I I will say they on their website, they say that this comes on what do they say? The advanced FLD04 self-winding caliber. And then later in the write-up, they go on to say that that is um the FLD 04 caliber, a self-wunding movement built on La Jou Perré's respected G100 platform. I'm just gonna say I think this is a G100. Uh |
| Will | yeah. I don't I |
| Everett | if if they've modified this, I'm I'm not seeing how, and of course I'm not a watchmaker, but uh I I think this is just a G one hundred. |
| Will | It it doesn't even look like a custom rotor. The rotor just says twenty four Joule Swiss made. |
| Everett | Yeah. No logo or anything. I |
| Will | mean come on guys. Just just you don't have to make stuff up. It's okay. We don't mind. |
| Everett | And then their case back. The case back is gorgeous. But uh again, you you say, you know, this 50 meters of water resistance, if you gave us a hundred |
| Will | It's not a screwed in case bag. It's a it's a screwed down case or a uh you know what I'm talking about. Uh like there's no reason that this can't be a hundred meters of water resistance. |
| Everett | That's right. Uh unless they were really trying to hit that ten millimeter mark on thickness, but r right. But |
| Will | yeah, I'm not sure how much they would have needed |
| Everett | to add. It's a fantastic watch and it seems like we're being a little huff tough on it, but um |
| Will | Oh, I wanted to talk about it because it's freaking sweet. Like even the font that they use for harpoon on the dial, everything looks like a little fish. As |
| Everett | a font guy, that is an epic font. |
| Will | Yeah, it's it's very cool. I want I want to write turn papers in that font and drive professors |
| Everett | nuts. Well |
| Will | well that was the last watch on my list |
| Everett | that I felt like I had to talk about. Um so with that we can move on to my favorite part of the show, other things. What what do you got? |
| Will | I I I had a hard time picking my other thing because like I told you before the show, I have several things I could talk about, which means I need to come on the show more and then I can talk about them. |
| Everett | Yeah, that's right. I I uh it's a struggle for us to find other things these days. |
| Will | Yeah, it's rough. So I'm gonna go with uh I think the one that has brought me the most joy over the past couple weeks, which is a video game. Um I do not buy a lot of video games. I usually buy one and play it for like a year, you know, before I move on to the next thing. Um but I picked up Pragmata for PlayStation 5 um and so this is uh a game made by capcom um they make you know the resident evil games you know a lot of a lot of really good uh you know ac action um you know action thriller type games, you know, over the the they've got a long history if you don't know who they are. But this is a new IP. This isn't a remake or anything or you know, anything like that. They haven't adapted it from anything. Um, and basically the gist of the story is without ruining anything, um you're kind of an every man astronaut in the future that gets sent to the moon to check out a base there. And as most things do in space video games, shit goes wrong. Um and I've heard some people call it Dad Space, which is uh a play on the video game Dead Space. Um and the reason for that is is there's uh this isn't spoiling anything, there is a uh a a secondary character in the game who becomes your companion who is a little girl? Um and I will say that the way that they handled the dynamic between the two characters didn't feel like a cliche. Um you know, he wasn't, you know, this like broken man that's like, I need someone to save me, you know, and it turns out to be this kid or any of this garbage. You know, it it's very natural and like you kind of you're like along for the ride with it. But the gameplay's really cool. It's got a very unique combat system. Um the story is I'll say light. You know, it's it's not bad or great. It's somewhat predictable, but it's good. You know, it's it'll keep you engaged. Um but I've I've really been enjoying it. I've been playing the hell out of it. I'm almost done with it and I don't want it to be over. It's my always, you know, my kind of mark of it's been a good game. Um, you know, so I'll probably replay it one or two more times, um, you know, and see if they come out with you know any new content or anything in the coming months. But I highly recommend it. It is really fun. Um and I I''llll say too if it's light enough that you could probably play it with your kids um depending on their ages because there's no like human on human violence. |
| Everett | Okay. Uh ro robots are the are the enemy, right? |
| Will | Yeah, yeah, you got it. Um you know, I I even thought about like, oh, should I, you know, maybe do a playthrough with this with my uh my seven-year old, you know, should probably find it interesting. Um you know, especially the the special effects, you know, with the robots and everything are are pretty cool, you know, everything looks awesome. So it it's it's a lot of fun. I've been enjoying it. |
| Everett | W what is what is REM data? You know, my initials are REM. So when I see REM on anything, I think, God, I gotta know what that is. |
| Will | It stands for rare earth memory. |
| Everett | Oh. That's like me. |
| Will | Yeah, exactly. Rare Earth Meadows. Um it uh it it's basically like collectibles that you can find in the game, but they they serve a purpose Well it |
| Everett | looks fun. I've never heard of it before I don't know seven minutes ago. Series XS and Nintendo Switch 2. |
| Will | Oh, there you go. It is on everything. Which is |
| Everett | interesting. And I don't know, when they say Windows, that specifically discludes Mac, right? |
| Will | I believe so. I'm not like if I'm not gonna say that for sure, but I believe so. |
| Everett | I think if it says PC, oftentimes you could do both Windows or Mac, but if it says Windows, that means no Mac. So So uh I'll have to get one of those other devices to play it. |
| Will | Yes. You must. |
| Everett | My kids are on so I I've talked about this on the you know my my other thing last week, Will was a was a video game, slightly different tone, uh farming simulator. |
| Will | Oh specifically the twenty twenty two |
| Everett | version. Uh could you go with |
| Will | all of the the different simulators like power wash simulator I saw that they have now and they just came out with a sequel. There's power wash simulator |
| Unknown | two. I no I have not |
| Everett | gone through any of them. In fact farming simulator is is the first of the modern simulators that I've played. Uh, you know, I played SimCity back in the day in Roller Coaster Tycoon. |
| Will | Hell yeah. We all uh |
| Everett | but no, this is my first foray into simulator, modern simulator gaming. So no. Uh, but I I will say with with that said, it's been compelling enough that now I'm thinking, what else am I missing? Um, because I'm really having a lot of fun with it. But you're missing a |
| Will | power wash simulator too. |
| Everett | I bought a PlayStation controller. I bought a PlayStation 5 controller and my kids it it really frustrated my kids because they saw that and they were like, Dad, w you you know, you're holding out on us. Where is this |
| Will | PlayStation 5? And when I |
| Everett | told them what it was for, it made them really grumpy. |
| Will | Yes. It would make me grumpy too. But it is it is the best controller though. It's so comfortable. |
| Everett | Oh my gosh. It's a really it's it's a really nice controller. And and I was surprised, you know, you know, I've never I've never done you know, modern both PlayStation and Xbox controllers work with PC, right? Because it's just a Bluetooth connection, right? So |
| Will | yep. The integration, you know, |
| Everett | if you're using a Steam game, for instance, the integration is seamless, right? You connect and it's like, yep, I know what you're doing, and and you don't need to do you don't need to keybind or anything you can if you want, but if you're Everett and you don't want, you don't have to. Uh that's that really blew my mind. It's pretty cool. |
| Will | There, um, just as a quick aside, there is um if you're playing Steam games with a a dual sense controller, you can get this, I think it's like six bucks. It's pretty cheap. It's called DSX. And basically what it does is it'll allow you to emulate an Xbox controller with your dual sense controller if the game doesn't support it. But the really cool thing is the guy who developed it, I don't know if he does it or he people send it to him, um, but people will integrate it with games that are like cross-platform so you can get like all the controller features on your PC, like the adaptive triggers and all that stuff. Uh yeah, |
| Everett | that's cool. Yeah, so it's if you |
| Will | know, people listening, uh, check it out 'cause it's it's pretty cool. I used it when I played uh Cyberpunk because he got to use the adaptive controllers and all that kind of stuff is pretty cool. |
| Everett | Yeah, you know, we will uh I I think we've been talking a little bit about having you on the show more frequently, and I think I think people uh I think uh a probably a not small percentage of our um of our listenership will be excited to hear you you like actually play video games. Andrew and I play phone games and then occasionally we'll play a video game, a real video game. You you like actually play video games. I think I think people that listen to the show would be excited for that change of pace. |
| Will | Oh shit yeah I love playing video games. |
| Everett | Our our video game content on this show is like farming simulator or like balloons T D six and |
| Will | Oh yeah we're g we're we're gonna bring it back. I'll I'll we'll have a uh monthly twenty minute bonus episode where I can come in and talk about video games or something. Well, I've got a |
| Everett | I've got another thing for this week, and it is a scotch. Specifically, it is Glenfarkless 105. So Glenn Farkless is a Highland single malt scotch distillery, and they're they're one of the old boys and they make what I'm gonna what I'm gonna call a sort of space side style. No, the Highland Highland scotches really can be anything, right? There's not it's not like uh an Isla or a or a or a spacide. You you know they can run the gamut. I think this really runs that sort of space-side gamut, which is to say it's got you know really nice sort of sherry-ish sweetness. Um This is a scotch that had been recommended to me, and then I couldn't find it. I just couldn't find it. And eventually. Yeah, that's right. And eventually I went to my liquor store bro and I was like, hey, I would like this scotch and he said I can special order that, but the way the the way the Oregon Liquor Control Commission works is it's a special order. So we'll put it on order for however many we want. And when they get enough orders across the state, they'll order it and we'll get it. So who who knows when? It could could be be it next month. It could be you know six months from now. So that was probably well that's been a while ago. Anyway, he finally got it in and I got it. Yeah, that's right. That's right. No, people in your |
| Will | town want a submariner, they can they'll get you |
| Everett | one. They can get one. Um he finally got it in and I got a bottle home. And I'll just say I went back to him and I was like, Hey, do you have any more? And he was like, No. And I was like, We'll do another special order and I'll buy two of 'em. So he did and I did. Uh so now I've got this open bottle and then I've got a a couple backups. Um So |
| Will | what what was their minimum order? Two? |
| Everett | Half a half case is three, right? So they can they can get in three at a time. So I bought one of the original the originals and then when he reordered it, because I bought one and the other two sold out so quickly, he bought a full case. Um, and I know they still have one at least one on the shelf. Um, but this is a 60 proof scotch, which it in Scotch terms is pretty rare. Scotches are typically coming in at 43 or 46 sometimes. Sure. Pretty rare to get scotches in at 60. Sometimes you see them at 50. Uh, so it's a cask strength scotch. W with that said, when I first cracked this, I poured it, I poured it neat with nothing. And I thought, okay, that's a little hot. So what I do is I'll pour this and then I'll take just a splash of water. What I do is I'll take a straw from I've got like a Yeti |
| Will | uh tumbler with the plastic straw |
| Everett | and I'll just sort of put it in and grab you know like an inch of water in the straw and drop it in. Not very scientific, but it opens it. Oh my gosh, this is my favorite non-peted scotch whiskey on the face of the earth. It is so freaking good. And it's the type of booze that I can drink way too much of without realizing it. |
| Will | Yeah, so I've got to be a little careful. I |
| Everett | can have like three or four of these and uh without even thinking about it, and then next thing you know, I'm drunk. I love |
| Will | Especially at 60 stuff. If |
| Everett | you like scotches, especially like a sort of sherry forward scotch, this is not super sherry forward, it's I think Glenn Farkless uses 50% bourbon cask and 50% sherry cask. So you get that like sort of fruity orchard fruit vibe, but then you also get that sherry, like dark sweetness. This stuff is fantastic. And I'm kind of a peted if I'm gonna drink scotch, I really want a peted scotch. This is not peted at all, but it is just terrific. It's terrific. It reminds me a little bit of, I don't know if you drink a lot of Scotch Will, I think you're more of a bourbon guy. But it reminds me a little bit of Craig Allocky. It's got a very similar vibe. Craig Allocky is a worm tub, so a little bit of a little bit |
| Will | more. Yeah. So all right. Good to know. Um, you know, in terms of what it what it tastes like, 'cause I I probably won't be buying a bottle for myself. Maybe if I make it out your way, you can save me some. |
| Everett | Well, I've got I've got plenty. So if you get out if you get out to Oregon, you you can have a dram. It is I love it. I w could drink it every night and then my wife would divorce me. So is there but is there |
| Will | anything better than finding a drink that you love so much that you're just like I this is my jam now you know I I will say that I haven't found that with whiskey or bourbon yet. I found it with beer. You know, there are like beers where I'm like, if I see it, I'm like, I'm getting it. I don't care if I am gonna drink it today or not, you know. Um but I I haven't found that with like a you know, whiskey or bourbon yet. And I don't know maybe it's I'm not drinking enough of 'em you know. But but I I'm not sure, but I I haven't found it yet, but I know what that that feeling's like when you find something really good or you know, it could just be food. It doesn't matter. Um, you know, where you're just like, oh, this is my jam now. This is my jam. This is what I want. |
| Everett | Y you know, with uh with bourbons, I don't think I've found that one for me either. I like all bourbons. I I have, you know, I don't know, probably about a hundred bottles of bourbon at the house. And I just I love almost all bourbons I've ever had. Uh with scotches though I'm a little bit more particular and it you're right, Will, it is a really nice it's like, okay this is the one and I've kind of found that with I've kind of found that with peted scotches I'm sort of an art beg guy especially the Ugadel um but with sc you know I think for me what there's a couple of things that I really like about this. One is the guy who recommended it to me is like a uh like a whiskey song. And so his words like really hit. I was like, oh, this guy knows what he's talking about. He recommended it, and then I couldn't find it. That was the other thing. I was like, so there's a little bit of like built-up anticipatory intrigue to it. So now I've got this bottle that I've got, you know, I don't want to say an unlimited supply, but I've got a ton of it. And it feels like, oh, when someone comes over, I've got this thing that odds are unless they're really a Scotch guy, they haven't had, and even if they have had it, they know it's kind of special and it's just delicious. I so yeah, I'm with you. It's like, yeah, I've got this thing that's cool and unobtainium, and not totally it's not unobtaining, but kind of tough to get, and that's sort of built up in my mind. Yeah, it's cool. I've got |
| Will | what do they want for a bottle? Where you are? |
| Everett | Yeah. What did I pay for this? I want to say it's in the 80-ish range. It's not super expensive. I'm |
| Will | sure. That's totally good. Yeah. |
| Everett | It's non-age stated. So it's uh it's a cask strength non-age-stated. Let's see. Eight to ten. Oh, generally so non-age-stated, but generally considered to be eight to ten. So young-ish for Scotches. You know, bourbons are typically aged in hot rick houses. Kentucky is historically sort of warm and then you know of course you've got like Nevada Rick Houses even warmer. Um but but Scottish especially s Highland Scotland Rickhouse is a little bit cooler. So you don't get quite eight to ten years is probably like comparable to a four to five-year bourbon. So kind of young, but you don't get that young heat because of the way they've they've put this all together. It is a bit bourbon-ish. It's certainly scotch. It's not bourbon, but you get a little bit of that bourbon vibe to this. |
| Will | Uh now I'm gonna have to look for it and see if uh see if I can get on the the minimum order quantity at my local liquor store. Yeah |
| Everett | and I'm looking I'm looking I think MSRP on this is eighty and then secondary runs from that to 110 ish. So yeah. I mean not not crazy. Yeah. Just that |
| Will | but just that's good. It's not out of control, you know, like |
| Everett | yeah like a lot of bourbons are. |
| Will | You know, like people sell friggin' bottle of blantons for like two hundred dollars and it's like pfft for what? |
| Everett | D I know blantons. I I like Blantons, but I like Blantons for sixty bucks. |
| Will | A hundred percent. Yep. My first my first bottle of Blanton's, um I was gifted it and then my second bottle that I got um I I paid MSRP for it and I was like, it's perfect. I'm basically at thirty dollars a bottle average. Yeah |
| Everett | Yeah, that's right. That's right. Uh well Will, I think we've come to the end. Just just ninety minutes in. Uh |
| Will | nailed it. Not too bad. Not too |
| Everett | bad. Uh is there anything that you want to add before we move it along for the week? |
| Will | You know, I don't have anything super important, but you know, like we said, I'm trying to trying to come on the show a little bit more often. Scheduling is gonna be our main challenge because of the time difference, but uh for people out there in in in listener world, what do you want to hear about? You know if you if you don't want to hear about this the releases, you know, of the week, uh or if there's something you want to hear me talk about, just shoot us shoot us a message our way. Let's hear about it. Uh always open to new suggestions and show topics, so love to hear from you guys. |
| Everett | Hey folks, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20 of the WatchClicker Podcast. |
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