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You Get a Movement; You Get a Movement (388)

Published on Tue, 07 Apr 2026 22:48:12 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the Forty and Twenty WatchClicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss recent watch releases and industry news while enjoying Penelope Río bourbon. They cover several notable watches including the Albashorn Thundergraph Kombu, a mint green chronograph designed for the 1952 Swiss Everest expeditions, and the Nevada Grand Grentian Antarctic Erotic, which features penguins mating on the caseback as part of the movement animation. The hosts also discuss Richemont's decision to separate Minerva from Montblanc as its own brand, highlighted by the release of the crownless Unveiled watch with a fluted bezel winding mechanism.

Other topics include the Artemis II moon mission and the watches aboard (Omega Speedmasters and Breitling Navitimers), Resence's groundbreaking Type 11 with their first fully integrated movement, Casio's improved EFK-110 automatic watch, and Woolbrook's new chronograph featuring a Jean Brun/Peacock movement. The episode concludes with non-watch topics including Andrew's homemade halal hot sauce recipe and Everett's discussion about building a comprehensive first aid kit for shooting sports and general emergency preparedness.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to Forty and Twenty, the WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett So good. So good. I
Andrew have made. What's what's that? So good. You got it made. Ye
Everett ah, so good, I got it made. We got whiskey
Andrew . We we have. Which is different. We're
Everett we haven't had whiskey in a couple weeks anyway. A we
Andrew ek. Not on the microphone. Yeah.
Everett That's right. That's right. Uh I got a bottle that I first heard of last year I think and what
Andrew the nose evolution is interesting ye
Everett ah I first heard of this bottle last year and um it was elusive. I mean I think incredibly elusive. I I think that this year it's been a little bit easier to come by for some people, but we I finally found a bottle of Penelope Rio
Andrew . So this is an
Everett I want to say it's a it's a finished booze by Penelope. Penelop
Andrew e. Penelope, I think is how you say that word. Penel
Everett ope. It is um finished in so this is P
Andrew enelope's four-grain mash
Everett bill, which I believe is an MGP spirit
Andrew , uh, aged half in honey and half in umburana barrels. Hmm.
Everett And so I brought it over for Andrew. Sometimes I have a whiskey and I'm like, probably
Andrew better bring that over. Um, this is one of those
Everett times. It is a
Andrew Orchata flavored bour
Everett bon. I'm gonna go out on the limb and say they don't claim that, but
Andrew I claim Orchatta. So right off, right off the bat, like on the fresh nose, like super pineappley, like really tropical fruity, and we're uh ninety seconds post pour. Like brown sugar coconut.
Everett You don't get horchata. You don't get any cinnamon
Andrew ? I do. That's like the entire flavor profile of horchata
Everett . Yeah. I don't get a lot of cinnamon. I
Andrew get like uh Like cinnamon toast crunch. Sweetness.
Everett I get milkiness too, which is the thing I think that is the most like. Huh
Andrew ? I get a lot of coconut. I'm gonna give it another minute. But it's exciting. I'm I'm happy to it'
Everett s almost I mean it's almost not bourbon. It's clearly a finished bourbon, which makes it bourbon.
Andrew Like you get this at 7 Eleven on a little pull tab.
Everett Right. This is almost not. I mean, it's hard to like, I get very little bourbon off the palette. It is delicious, though. It is absolutely fantastic. Uh Andrew, I'm good. How are you? I'm I'm
Andrew also good. It's been uh it
Unknown 's just hectic. We had two k
Andrew ids, sports, yard work. I mowed my lawn on Saturday, and I already have to mow it again. Ye
Everett ah, that's tis the season. Uh that'
Andrew s trash. Tis the season. But all my baby grass that I put down in my bald spots in my backyard is taking nicely.
Unknown Oh nice. So I think
Andrew by the end of summer I will have
Everett forgettable bulb patches. If you keep it wet, man, I really you gotta you gotta overseed in spring and fall, man
Andrew . I know, but I think I think I will get to the end of summer and be ready for another heavy layer of seed and just finally have restored my backyard. Your
Everett backyard. Yeah, because I had this this little
Andrew girl dog who every time she peed, she liked to pee in three places in the yard, and then we do that stupid scrat
Everett ch and just
Andrew fucked up those three big spots in my yard. R
Everett .I.P. Lucy.. Yeah Well, you
Andrew know, yeah. Yeah. That she was a very good dog, but she was not good for yards. Uh she was not good for yards. Uh but yeah, so I just, you know, chugging on along. Uh very excited to get into this bourbon and took the kid to gymnastics today. We did a schedule swap, so I went to gymnastics uh which is just wild right so it's we have this big national like gymnastics academy in town and they have like one half of the warehouse is like kids' classes and, then the other half of the warehouse is competitive kids. And to watch these like probably twelve to seventeen year old boys and girls do the things that they do, it it's like worth the price of admission. Like I don't watch my kid during gymnastics. I just turn my body and watch these kids fly through the air and do things that like I I my body hurts watching them do the things that they're doing. It'
Everett s pretty impressive. It is just
Andrew wild. And like the the the exhibition of just raw strength and power in launching yourself off of the earth in such a controlled manner is super fun to watch. Yeah
Everett . There were tonight there were there was like
Andrew a group of probably like thirteen to fifteen year old boys doing their their pommel vault thing. Holy shit.
Everett Yeah, a lot of athleticism there.
Andrew Like they were in the air longer than I can hold my breath
Everett . Um, I I don't like that place because it smells like athlete's foot
Andrew . My my snot locker is not super effective. I don't know what athl
Everett ete's foot smells like, but it smells like that place.
Andrew I don't let because there's birthday parties there for both of our kids' ages. So when the first thing they do when they come in the house, they're like, I'm so tired, I want to get on the couch. I'm like, you are not taking your foot juice body and touching the couch or blankets. If you want to stand and watch television, fine, but you are not touching nothing until you have showered.
Everett Yeah. That I think that's fair. That place is real stinky
Andrew . It it does have a funk. And it's an enormous warehouse and I don't think that funk comes out
Everett . Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's permanent. Um in any event, we're here to talk about watches and not funky gymnastics. Odors rather we're gonna talk about watches. Andrew, uh just this once, do you want to lead us off
Andrew ? I think I will. Uh two things. I want to start with a a brief not thing that I want to talk about. Studio Underdog had a really fun April Fool's Day uh announcement on their straps three ways, like tri-wrist and bicep and hat wrist and all other manner of stuff. I and reading it and and viewing it, it was the perfect April Fool's Day prank because it could have just as easily been real. And I would have felt exactly the same way of like, well, that's weird, but also like you can't push the envelope with occasionally like without occasionally knocking something over. It was the perfect April Fool's Day and I was like, this is this can't be real. And then there was nothing about it after, uh, which meant that it was it was not a thing. So uh good good on the team over there. Well executed April Fool's uh efforts. Uh now uh you know what, we're seven days in six and some hours. Actually we're over seven days in to
Everett what? To the Artemis II
Andrew mission. So Artemis II has uh completed their trip uh past and around the moon and is on their way back. And I read a Fratello article uh shortly after launched that outlined the watches that are on board the Artemis 2 in their trek. And this so ever all the astronauts have their X33, right? Because that's their that's their issued watch. They also have a Speedmaster Pro, a moon watch for their EVAs. I don't know why, and I need to look into that if if perhaps like if there's something about the the digital watch that would be problematic in the vacuum of space. But they all also have their moon watches for moon for spacewalking.
Everett Andrew, this is why does why do the ninja turtles eat Domino's pizza instead of some other kind of pizza? This is all about product placement.
Andrew Okay, so here we are. So so those are the Omega provided watches. These astronauts all brought their own shit along too, in the way of like not provided by NASA, right? They're all all of them have a Nava timer with them. But there's one there's there's one special watch that is worth it. I w
Unknown onder if they all just independently went out and bought
Andrew no there is one special watch that is worthing mention. And Christina Cook has her father's Speedmaster Moonwatch on board with her. That'
Everett s kind of dope
Andrew . Yes. That's kind of dope. If my kid went to
Everett space, I'd be like, hey, take this with you. Tak
Andrew e anything. Like, you want one of my socks? Do it. Uh but she has her dad's speedmas
Everett ter on a moon flig
Andrew ht and is bringing it home. And hopefully we'll we'll give it back to dad um and not eBay it or some crazy shit. Um Um yeah, I I it was interesting to to look down the the product placement line. It was like, okay, uh everyone has an X33, everyone has a Moonwatch. Interesting that they're also all provided Nava timers. Way to go, Brightling. Good job. Yeah. Getting your placement in there. Because it immediately made me say, well, that's the that's the that's that's the watch that the astronauts wanted to bring to the moon. So that's the watch that I need to get. Uh, and that's where my head went, and I was immediately on chrono 24 again. I'm like, no, you fucker, you just want one because they're awesome, not just because Brightling gave four away to the
Everett I mean it could be mo it could be mo both, right?
Andrew Well they're not all aviators, right? There's no there's no like uh uh distilling down why they all have a Nava timer, right? If they were all aviators and they all like the Nava timer was the watch that they'd been flying with for however long, okay, I buy. I accept as not Brightling gave these to us to wear in product placement photographs before we put on our spacesuits. That's what it is. There's no there's no thread that you can join all these people at. Besides, you know, being astronauts for a a while, right? That none of them are like brand new to the program. They've all been at NASA for a long time. And perhaps maybe that's a a personal watch favorite of astronauts. I don't know, but my assumption is that Brightling gave them Nava timers to take to the moon
Everett . And I want a Navatim
Andrew er still and did before, but want one more now.
Everett Yeah. Uh and notably these are the quote unquote cosmonaut n
Andrew ativers. So uh no
Everett , it it's it it's a it's a rad. It's a rad setup. I I mean I think you know, given the opportunity, you'd
Andrew I'd I'd load a case of watches.
Everett Yeah, that's right. That's right. Everything.
Andrew You want to see a Santos on the moon, we can make it happen. We I actually we can't. I'd like to see one on the moon, and if you're going anytime, I will loan you mine
Everett . Um Andrew, I'm gonna I'm gonna quickly just because I I feel like sometimes I'm like I don't care, and sometimes I'm like, I wanna get this right. I am going to Google the pronunciation of a word before I start this. Uh here we go.
Andrew You can't nobody can even read that. Well, you're just gonna have Google say it. Smart
Everett . Yeah. Say it again
Unknown . Kambu. Thank you
Everett . Kambu is what I heard
Andrew . I heard I heard more a
Everett kambu? I heard like closer to that
Andrew , but like Kambu. Um
Everett Albashorn. Albashorn
Andrew is just one of my favorites. I think
Everett uh one of collectively, one of our favorites since they came out swinging in 2024. Alba Shorn, um if you don't know, is the watch brand who makes up their story. Absolutely yes, who makes up their story. Who makes these absolutely rad watches that are ostensibly or or theoretically could be based on a historical watch uh the this the carpet being pulled however though is that the the historical watch does not exist yes so they are coming up with a watch, the story is to come up with a watch that existed in the past and to release a modernization of that. They're like the zombie company that only recreates catalog watches that don't that don't exist
Andrew . They're like they're like creating Frankenstein's monsters. They're not actual zombies. They're like creating the monster without it having it it we don't have a good analogy. So we're we're we're really struggling. That
Everett 's right. I mean it's such a bizarre like and and you know uh i there's a lot of ways that it could go wrong. Uh but for their part, I think Albushorn has done a really good job making it go right. And every time they
Andrew don't they don't have a miss yet. I I think
Everett that is because I I think they really nailed the pricing and the sort of like specs, and
Andrew they they've really nailed
Everett their market segment, I think. Well
Andrew , and their design is flawless.
Everett Yes. Right. Their colorways are
Andrew great. Their their actual watch design dimensions are great. Like they just they hit everything.
Everett And and that of course is is of the utmost importance. Uh but but I think that there's something to be said for like
Andrew really knowing who's gonna buy this wat
Everett ch. Who's gonna how how many are they gonna buy, etc. That is a really tough part of the business. And I
Andrew think the crack as it were. I think Always R
Everett on's done a great job. With that said, they released two watches in 2024, both the maxi graph and the type 10. And then last year they came out with the Thunder Graph, which I
Andrew think of all of their watches
Everett was perhaps my favorite. This was sort of a dark denim, like navy denim dial with red accents. Uh just terrific. I loved this watch from the moment I saw it. Well, they' rveeleased a second version of that. Uh this one, so so the original Thundergraph uh was or could have been made for sort of Antarctic uh exploration. This new one, the Thundergraph Kombu
Andrew . Kambu? Imagines a
Everett chronograph conceded for the 1952 Swiss Everest expeditions. Uh and so it it changes up the color. Here we've got, I'm gonna call this sort of a dark mint green.
Andrew Oh, I'm calling sagey.
Everett Sage green. I love that. I love that. S
Andrew age is it. We've got the same dimensions.
Everett We've got a 39mm case uh with a 12 millimeter height on this thing. Uh we've got a very interesting sort of layout. This we've got this 1030 crown and a 930 mono pusher which is i i mean i don't know i don't know if that's unique to albastron but i think it might be
Andrew and and it's the the the mono pusher is totally obstructed from a top-down view by this big overhanging dog bowl bezel.
Everett That's right. Um and it's practical, right? The the way it's designed is to allow operation with your right thumb, assuming you're a a you know, a normal handed person. It allows operation with your right thumb while you're wearing gloves. And
Unknown theoretically the crown. Big ner
Everett that's right. Big knurled edges. I I mean it's just a really, really cool watch. So they they call it, oh, they say mint green opaline tone, inspired by the Himalayan landscape. Uh and then we've got this sort of California ghost dial that they've retained from the prior version with Roman numerals uh in in the upper quadrant, but the bottom quadrant being dominated by
Andrew these were replaced by the subdials
Everett . We've got a chronograph layout running seconds at 430 and a 30-minute counter at 730. It is weird and I like it. Um, we've got the caliber ALB03M, which is
Andrew a proprietary cost certified
Everett reworked Solita SW510 uh mono pusher, which is in turn based on the 7750 architecture. It's a 28.8 vibration, 65 hour power reserve. It's a really cool movement. Um, and these are, you know, in that $4,000, $4,500 range, which is a lot of money, but for what you're getting in terms of movement, um I think it's in the it's justifiable. It it's certainly not an impulse buy, I don't think you you kind of have to know what you're getting. Orologically, I think they're doing what they need to do. Uh details and dimensions, certainly, I think they're doing what they need to do. Um, but they're not giving it away, right
Andrew ? No, and and and you know, don't, right? They have an established they've established themselves, right? They have a strong foothold. This isn't a flyer brand anymore. Yeah. This is an established brand that's been making shit for a couple of years and is continuing to produce, continuing to deliver, I think they've got a very strong foothold to, you know, with a proprietary movement. Whole I mean and this isn't a whole brand new skew, right? But they did all the RNT
Everett . Yeah, yeah.
Andrew This isn't right. This platform existed. But this is this is all IP to Albashorn, right? This isn't a new color, this isn't just a new dial. That's right. They've they've they're doing a thing in a meaningful way.
Everett Now, with this release, we're also getting Alba Shorn is releasing their very first steel bracelet, which is something that I've talked about in the past. I said, gosh, you know, I really wish we could get a bracelet. They've they've done it. They've released a steel bracelet for this. This this is, I think, the kids might call this backwards compatible, meaning it has been designed to work with every model. It does not have a fitted end link. It has got a straight bar end link. Which
Andrew is the right call. I think
Everett aesthetically that works. Um
Andrew I wish they would it was not my preferen
Everett ce. I I I think there were
Andrew a lot of other bracelet ways they could have gone to to capture this nineteen forties, fifties feel. They had to go straight link. I appreciate that they did that. I don't I I think this three link could have been punched up a little bit.
Everett Yeah. Um but
Andrew like bong clip or mesh or yeah. The three link is fine. There's nothing I have no bitch. I just I think it it like it's an a it for me feels like an afterthought relative to the rest of their design language in their watches. And to design something that's backwards compatible with five watches now. Four watches.
Everett Three and a half. Three. Yeah, so
Andrew uh a a fair bit of watches. Uh there's a challenge there, and and I think this is an acceptable uh middle ground that was met. Landed upon, perhaps. Only 199 of these
Everett . Yeah, that's right. That's right. They're making a small amount of these. So um man, I love it. I I I think that this is just a really terrific, a really terrific watch.
Andrew I'm a big fan. Andrew
Everett . Well, we're talking about the cold. We
Andrew might as well talk about Nevada Grand Grentian's Antarctic Erotic.
Everett Might as well. Uh so this
Andrew is a it's the Antarctic Erotic. It's a 38 millimeter felt sexy sport dress watch with a really good uh Jubilee bracelet on it. I don't know. I'm like I I'm always mixed feelings about the etched end link versus links uh or or l or other options but this is well executed. This
Everett I think I think Nevada does a good job. This is a you know like uh w whatever it says seven link.
Andrew Yeah. Uh they they do a good job fowing the links into the end link. But I'm I always have mixed
Everett as well. I always have mixed feelings
Andrew ab about it. Like I I I whatever. The story is not the Antarctic top-down, right? It's got good colors. It's a brown, a black, uh, a kind of salmon-y pink, lovely color way here but the the real the real treat and and what makes this an erotic watch is when you when you turn it over and you wind the watch. You have
Everett a soon-to-be mommy penguin
Andrew and about to be baby daddy penguin doing work with the release of the tension on the movement. It is ridiculous and fantastic. Uh we've we I don't know if we've ever talked about any of the like actually deliberately erotic watches. We talked about that booby watch a few weeks ago that that had like crazy nips pointing in every direction. Um there there are numerous uh erotic watches out in the world that depict things on the dial, on the case back. There's something really great to me about penguins on the case back in the movement. Not just on the case back, but incorporated into the movement to be doing the dirty as a function of the the watch functioning i love it and it's you know typical nevada pricing sub two thousand bucks top down you're getting a really fantastic well designed well proportioned watch. Uh but on the back, you're getting some uh some Antarctic dirty.
Everett I'm gonna I'm gonna make a suggestion here uh and and also make an accusation. I'm gonna accuse you
Andrew , Andrew, of making assump
Everett tions. It's well known that penguins form homosexual bond
Andrew s. And so there is
Everett these might be two two daddy penguins
Andrew . It could be, and I do, I I do owe these penguins an apology for assuming their gender. Uh you
Everett know, they even re the uh penguins penguins in gay relationships even raise adopted chicks from time to time.
Andrew Yeah, because it's a hard life as a penguin
Everett . It's cold. It's cold. It is cold.
Andrew Seals, whales, sharks. Basically, everything likes to eat penguin, but humans. I like to
Everett eat penguin. I've not had it. I'd
Andrew guess I haven't either. I'd fuck with some penguin chicken wings because those are like those are the thick legs. Uh I'd fuck with some some penguin meat if ever it came to be. You
Everett know, uh Andrew, have you ever eaten squirrel
Andrew ? Yeah. I I
Everett want to say that squirrel uh squirrels should be like really tasty because squirrels eat good
Andrew . Yeah, but they're so lean. Yeah. They're just like constantly running. Those fast twitch muscles are not tasty.
Everett Fair enough. Uh yeah, they'
Andrew re fast twitch muscles are just not. But squ
Everett irrels do eat real good. You gotta get the ones that the lazy squirrels. Those are the ones you gotta eat. Like the backyard squirrels. Yeah,
Andrew but you you can't shoot those easy. W
Everett ell, because they're a backyard. Listen, you can't get caught shooting those.
Andrew May maybe not. Uh I saw I get uh the occasional like uh hey you're you're out of the army. There's are these are some veteran job postings for you emails. Uh I recently got one for a contract in Antarctica
Everett . doing
Andrew refueling operations for some airbase down there.
Everett Okay. And I was like
Andrew intrigued. I think that'd be cool as shit to go live in Antarctica for six month I don't know who the fuck is flying down there, but it was just a a basically like a gas station attendant. But because it's in Antarctica, the muddy was not bad
Everett . I mean y you were a little bit temperature sensitive, I think, to pull off a an Antarc
Andrew tic
Everett occupation. I
Andrew I hate the heat. I and the cold. No, I'm I'm like I'm all about it.
Everett Okay, fair enough. As long as you
Andrew 're prepared for it, right? Like if if it just turns cold, if I get a thirty degree temperature swing. Sure. That sucks. Sure. Because I wasn't prepared, but no, I I would much prefer the cold.
Everett Uh Reachmont is being weird, uh, as ever. Uh Richemont owns Mont Blanc. Mont Blanc is operated, I think, with a fair degree of independence uh within that, but Richemont is is doing what you know, they just sold Bama Mercier. Um this week, Mont Blanc announced, I think that this there's been whisperings of this for some time, but formally announced that it is separating its Minerva product line from the Mont Blanc brand. So Minerva is being sort of isolated and um separated brand wise from Mont Blanc within Richmond
Andrew . Can I can I interrupt you really quick? I I would love it. We do watch news at the top, and this is watch news.
Everett There's a watch, Andrew. If you would just shut up
Andrew . Okay. Okay. We'll talk about
Everett a watch. Um, and and and that's that's fine. Like I actually don't really care all that much about Regmond. I don't understand even what
Andrew a like a uh reorg like that even means.
Everett Well, you know, you we s we see this right sometimes. I I I think
Unknown m most sort of famili
Everett ar to me would be Seiko separating out the Grand
Andrew Seiko line, right? It just made sense like
Everett for them to treat this like its own brand. This feels a little bit more forced than that, right? Because we're not seeing a ton of Minerva, you know, branding and like people aren't talking about Minerva, although I think they will be now, and that is because with this announcement, Minerva's released a small line of watch watches, but that release is being headlined by uh what they're calling shh, the Unveiled Crownless. You will not be surprised to learn that the Unveiled Crownless is a watch that has no crown
Unknown . So it can't even be ro
Andrew yalty. This is a
Everett mechanically wound time only watch with a small seconds at six o'clock. It is operated by the star of the show, which is a rose gold fluted bezel that is absefrequently Gorgeous. Um it is I'
Andrew d call this more coin edge than fluted. I think fluid fluted is it is tend to be more like more scalloped shape i can we can we accept coinage because these are pretty sharp this is like gearbox
Everett yeah yeah angles yeah that's right um it is the they do
Andrew deep minerva does call it a fluted bez
Everett el but i accept Andrew, I accept your distinction. Um, this is an homage to Minerva's history making military watches, and I I w would be a li
Andrew ar if I said I look
Everett at this watch and I go, oh yeah, I can see the I can
Andrew maybe if it's like the oligarchy, if it's if it's the oligarchs whose like whose kids bought you know captaincies and stuff
Everett . With that said, absolutely fantastic. So dial layout is includes um uh wonderful gu. Yeah, a lot of texture. That's the right way. Wonderful guillosh uh on the chapter ring or the the outer ring. It's a bit of a sector dial. Um we've got a bezel complication.
Andrew Wide though. It's like big fat, it's like snakeskin.
Everett Yeah. Almost. Uh it's not
Andrew real tight and and deep. It's just it's a very it's a very flat geosh.
Everett Winding and time setting functions both done through bidirectional turns with a lever on the underside of the watch that switches between winding and
Andrew time setting. You need two hands to work this
Everett . You you I I think the lever is just push a push and set and then push back to unset
Andrew . Oh. U
Everett h we've got uh in-house caliber m15.08 movement, which I know nothing about, but I know it is a hand-finished, very, very well-finished uh movement with a free sprung balance. It
Andrew 's really lovely. Um
Everett , and a you know uh hairspring maiden set at the in-house at the Minerva Atelier. Uh 139 components, rhodium plated German silver, coat to Geneva, blah blah blah blah blah. It's 40,000 euro for I was gonna say
Andrew this this feels like a uh price upon request
Everett . But it's fucking gorgeous. Um and I wanted to talk about this because this feels to me like obviously not a new watch brand, but it feels to me like a new player
Andrew . Yeah, which which is interesting coming out of the like spinning off of Mont Blanc, who I I think arguably is is struggling to remain a player. Ye
Everett ah. I I mean I think Mont Blanc is a difficult I think Mont Blanc is a difficult IP, right
Andrew ? Mm-hmm. Because uh I mean
Everett really they're a brand known for making outrageously expensive plastic fountain pens, right? That's what Mont Blanc does. They make incredibly overpriced plastic fountain pens
Andrew . And so and a few watches
Everett . Yeah, but I think for watches as a tough IP. I think Richmond in separating out Minerva is like, okay, wait, let's uh let's actually do let's actually do some watch stuff. Maybe
Andrew maybe they can like unsaddle themselves from Mont Blanc
Everett . I think I that that would be my assumption here is that you know and I don't I don't I can't imagine they intend to stop making Mont Blanc watches. No
Andrew , no, no. But like create some freedom for Minerva to work in a similar space.
Everett Yeah, well and and maybe in more of a hotorology space where I think I think Montblanc's IP is a little bit saddled by by Mont Blanc's other things, right
Andrew ? Yeah. You know, it'
Everett s not quite the same, but I I I put Mont Blanc in the same world that I put the Leica watches, right? Which is to say,
Andrew oh, I put I like it mak
Everett es sense to me, but also like you're a camera company.
Andrew I accept, but then if you look at Casio or Seiko. Seiko owns an hour. No, you can't compare the Japan
Everett ese. Now, now you can't compare the it's a totally different world. Japanese is a totally different world. But
Andrew what about jewelry houses? I mean and I I think it's maybe different, right? Jewelry
Everett houses are different. But if we look at if we look at Car
Andrew tier, if we look at what about Louis Vuitton
Everett ? I mean I think that's a good thing. I think Louis Du Vuitton makes
Andrew like nothing worthwhile in the watch world uh reasonably relative to Mont Blanc. Some interesting stuff but not relative to Mont Blanc.
Everett Yeah, I I mean I think that you see like certain certain like Ralph Wren makes their s engraved sterling silver with the b
Andrew ig or the Piaget Polo. Like
Everett Yeah. I don't think that's is that associated with Ralph Laurent? No, it's not.
Andrew I that was just another brand that came to mind that's not a typical like banger. P
Everett iaget's obviously they're Piaget's a wat watchch.ing So not
Unknown a good comparison. It's tricky. And and
Everett and certainly we do see this in these luxury brands where it's like, well, you know what? We're gonna Gucci for instance. I'm gonna make some fucking watches and you're gonna like it, and that's all there is to it. Uh with that said, I I do see some similarities between Leica and Mont Blanc. Both companies make watches that I find interesting
Andrew . So this is not intend
Everett ed to be a criticism, but I think that there is some baggage there, I think is my point
Andrew . But but it's not here for Miner
Everett va, right? Leica's never made anything icon
Andrew ic as a watch.
Everett You think we you're gonna put a which Mont Mont Blanc watch are you gonna put an iconic
Andrew ? I don't know. I hope something I um I don't have anything. Yeah
Everett . I Blanc Pont hasn't or or not Blan
Andrew c Pont, Mont Blanc hasn't um I don't know. It's a it's a I I think it's interesting. I agree with you. I think it's it's I don'
Everett t know. I I think it's a it'
Andrew s a there's a lot of potential in Minerva uh untethered from Mont Blanc.
Everett Yeah, I mean especially if they're gonna release shit like this because it's yeah fucking rad
Andrew . Yeah. Can we talk about something else rad that is like rad on rad?
Everett Yeah. Resence. Oh yeah.
Andrew With their new type 11. Oh
Everett yeah. They so Resence
Andrew has for their lifetime, lifespan, has been modifying movements to integrate them to their discs as they rotate around. Uh and now have a totally in-house integrated movement in the type eleven. And resence is a is a brand that we talk about with some regularity because everything they do is so fucking cool. Ye
Everett ah. I mean it's bizarre. It
Andrew 's it's it's not postmodern, because I think postmodern has a has like I I I I attribute like kind of a uh negative connotation to postmodern b because I think postmodern means something specific that it it it no l it's futuristic without being science fictiony
Everett . Sure. I'm with you. I I'm tracking
Andrew . And I I'm struggling to to like find a a word for that because postmodern's wrong.
Everett Yeah, I mean I think I I think n novel is a word. I don't know that it's the word. You know we
Andrew except novel, but I th I think it's still like just in the zone and not quite on the nose.
Everett I I wasn't here for it, but I did do the I did edit it. You and Frank did an episode where you talked about like I don't remember.
Andrew Your your would have been our favorite watches. Favorite watches. And I think
Everett Resence was for he was like, This is my desert island watch, right? This is the coolest watch there is. Uh, and there's something to be said for that. Not not that I necessarily agree with him, but there's there's something his point was like this is really fucking cool and different and awesome
Andrew . And that's what resence does. Everything resence, resence. I don't really know. Let's say R
Everett esence. Let's Resence. We'll stick with the hard
Andrew S's. Okay. Spice that S up. Uh so they have a fully integrated movement now moving into these watches. And fun, their battery in or their their uh not battery but their uh oh my gosh power reserve indicator is this rotating it's basically the inside of a bearing
Everett . It's a it's a ton of
Andrew tiny little ball bearings that are multicolored that show your power reserve indicator. And I have bitched and moaned on this show uh more than you guys would like to hear about power reserve indicators. This is it. This is the gold standard in innovation and in execution of a good power reserve indicator. This thing has is crownless. Again, we're talking about a lot of non-royal watches. It is hand wound by a uh hasp that opens and then winds the case back. This is just as cool as it gets to see a a watch brand like Resence uh being able to move away from being a customer brand for movements and into their own movements is I don't know. I think that's like what's that's what dreams are made of, right? 23,000 Swiss francs on this, that's what we should have expected, and uh I am here for it. This thing is it's as cool as cool gets.
Everett I mean I think we're past the point where I think we're past the point where we can say, oh, it's a lot of money for what that is. You know, previous prior to this
Andrew every cent is well spent on this.
Everett Prior to this, Resence was using like heavily modified
Andrew Salitas.
Everett Were they Edda's? Um maybe Selita 2, right? Same architecture. But um and there was a a novelty to their modification, right? Where they're taking this really sort of basic movement
Andrew and
Everett and and linking it to their novel. Well with this release, with the R01 release, they are fully integrating the things happening. The things happening on the dial, the things that you're seeing, the presentation is directly and fully integrated with the movement for the first time ever.
Andrew It's actually the movement, right? It's not the movement actuating facts. It's you're kind of you're watching the the movement represented by shit dropped on top of it.
Everett That is the best way to say it, Andrew. That is the best way to say it. And and so with it, it
Andrew 's like it's co theolest skeleton ever made.
Everett Resence is firmly, you know, I say resence and and the more I think about it, I'm like, it might be resence.
Andrew I like soft S's on it. Um
Everett firmly in hot horology territory. I mean this is As if they
Andrew haven't been before. They've cre
Everett ated a carve out in the world.
Andrew I'm gonna keep on. Hey, yeah, just keep on
Everett keep going, Andrew. What's 'cause you're talking. I yeah. They've created a carve out uh within whole horology and and and so you might say you know this sorry I I'm not I don't mean to I don't slander
Andrew me put those away I don't mean to slander anyb
Everett ody here. Put those away. But um this is not a uh a a C12 loco or even a Belcanto, right? And again, very cool watches. We've talked about them on the show a lot. This is something wholly different, and it's really cool. And if you're not, if if you're like, well, I gotta look into this a little bit, just do it because this is a different way to tell time. It's a different way to display time. And now it's it's a different way to keep time. It's a f
Andrew ully novel mechanism to do the thing that we've been doing for hundreds of years. Yeah, that's it. And I think that's the novelty of it. And I and I and I'm kind of inclined to maybe accept novel in the way that like we accepted novel for coronavirus, right? Like this is just new and we don't know what the fuck to do about it because it's uh well it's it's groundbreaking. That's what we're what we're looking at here. And I think there is not enough excitement around what Resence has just accomplished and put to market, right? This isn't hey, we're crowdfunding it. This is to market.
Everett Well, and and of course resence has developed cash flow right we know that about
Andrew but it's not it's it's to market right it's a thing it exists it's real it's tested it's q aid it's qc'd and it's out there.
Everett Woolbrook. Woolbrook, not a name that we spend a ton of time on. And that's not because they are uninteresting. Uh on the contrary, uh, they are very interesting. It it is because, and I'll tell you why we hate Warbrook is because it in the time between me designing the 11 Atmos and me releasing the 11 Atmos, Woolbrook released the 11 Atmos. And it pissed me off. And so I hate them. Um and I and I that's not exactly true
Andrew .
Everett Um that's not exactly true. Uh I really like Woolbrook's designs. Exactly. I think they're I think they're a fun. I think they're a really fun brand. What I did not expect to read this week is that Woolbrook had released a new chronograph with a new chronograph caliber that they are responsible for. So chronographs. Did Foster do that? Chronographs
Andrew . That was a little below the belt. A
Everett re interesting because there is really only a few of them, right? Seiko's got their speed timer chronograph. We've got um, you know, we we've got just a very few, you know, we say, oh, this is 7750 architecture or right. We just have a few automatic or mechanical chronographs that exist. And so for Woolbrook to announce a watch that says with the new Jim Brun PS sixty four oh two automatic chronograph caliber. I was like excuse me uh because
Andrew first, who the fuck is
Everett Jean Brun?
Andrew And where? And
Everett okay. So Jean Brun? Luc, sorry. Jean-Bunru. Jean-Bruun
Andrew . I think it's a long U.S
Everett . company. It's an old company. And now it is a revived company. Like so many companies in the watch world. But wait
Andrew . There's more. How do
Everett es a zombie company release a new automatic chronograph calorie? They
Andrew have the IP.
Everett This is a chronograph that has been designed by Wahlbrook, by way of Jean Brun, and then made by Peacock. So Peacock Chinese company.
Andrew Oh, not the streaming service.
Everett Different. Peacock, the Chinese company that makes r really cool, really cool movements, but because they do so in China, I think they often get overlooked. However, Atelier Wen has been using peacock movement in their very, very nice watches. Although they they refer to it as the Dandong SL something or the other.
Andrew They have to change the name for legal reasons
Everett . Um and and I think that they also peacock has also been making really freaking cool and somewhat affordable turbulence. Uh with that said, Peacock we tal
Andrew ked about that a couple years ago when they dropped. It was like a sub-thousand dollar turbulence
Everett . It was at about a thousand dollars. I'm not sure that's the same actually. It
Andrew was a different I think those are different things with that
Everett said. Peacock's a rad movement. So basically, peacock is white labeling Jean Brun Spect chronographs. Now, this is a
Unknown the IP laws in China,
Andrew like that place must be just the Wild West
Everett . The most interesting part of this movement, and something that the swift-eyed of you will recognize, is that r it it's it's a bicompax, but rather than the two chronograph subdials being located on the 90 degrees or on the the central axis, uh they're a little bit north of center. Just a
Andrew touch. Existing at ro
Everett ughly, I'm gonna say two forty-five and nine fifteen. Uh which Which is weird. I I mean it's not like it's a kind of whatever, but
Andrew they're just like two millimeters north.
Everett That's right. That's right. It's like, okay, interesting. Um you know whatever. It this is they're called
Andrew kind of like it. This is the PS64
Everett 02. Um it is a new automatic chronograph caliber. Really cool. 41 joule hand winding. Um
Andrew and sub thousand bucks. 2
Everett 8, 800 beats per hour, uh, fifty-five hour power reserve, power reserve, because it's French. It's fancy.
Andrew We spend way too much time together
Everett . Uh movement featuring they're calling it an armour de France finish, which is something interlocking hexagon, blah blah blah blah blah. Nobody know
Andrew s what it means. Nobody has tested French armor. This
Everett thing gotcha, Luke. This thing's freaking rad. So they're calling this the jet flyer. Um we've got a 38 by 46 by 121 to the top of the bezel, 14 to the top of the domed sapphire crystal. Not uh the the thinnest or the daintiest of movements, but fucking mechan
Andrew ical chronograph. Who cares? And
Everett as Andrew mentioned, eight hundred and forty-five bucks on leather.
Andrew Hundred meters of water resistance. Which
Unknown lines it up with Seagull ST1
Everett 9s, right? It's
Andrew it's a little north of an ST19.
Everett I mean a little north. I don't think so. That's this is about the price that most ST19s are coming in these days. If you can even find one because you're borrowing it from
Andrew one of five manufacturers.
Everett Studio Underdog. Uh this thing's cool, man. This is really freaking cool
Andrew . It it is. It it's nothing like when you look at it. The watch
Unknown itself is like whatever. When you look at it, you
Andrew 're just kind of like, okay. And then you and then you look at the spec sheet and this becomes the like the thing. You can just click the keyboard, throw my extra keys. I sit in a tube.
Everett What else do you have to say? I have nothing to
Andrew say. Can we talk about a not Chinese brand
Everett ? I mean, you can talk about whatever you want. Okay. I
Andrew want to talk about a Hong Kong brand. U earthen with the new summit nightfall and moon glow uh and these like top down again are just kind of like another adventurine. And then I like I sp I looked at them a little bit more and I was like, I think I really, really like these. The the case shape on them is like really soft, like almost timex-y, soft rounded edges, right? Like this looks just kind of like a daily banger, but it has an adventuring dial. And then turns out it's a white ceramic and a black ceramic. And everything about these is cool with a an what's it? Oh, it's the uh I just had it. Um it's a 90 39 movement in it it this is like my kind of this is this is how you turn boring into a little bit spicy. Like they dropped a couple jalapenos on sort of the perfect field watch case in the way of venturine, ceramic, some double dome, AR in there to create some purples and some colors. They put a PVD stripe on this big hunkin'. No reason for it ever to exist crown on a 38 millimeter watch. They hit every box for me on these. Uh they're under a thousand bucks or no, they're uh they're not under a thousand they're approximately eleven hundred euros I love this this is like
Everett these are great this is the field watch
Andrew that it like you're like, hey, you wanna you wanna see a you wanna see a sexy field watch? And and then you open up your trench coat jacket and this is what's hanging from it
Everett . Yeah, I mean th they're 10-4 thick, 38 millimeters ceramic. These things are rad. I think the I think the FTM though
Andrew , there's no there's no bracelets. Uh FM only and
Everett the bezel's bizarre the crown is bizarre. It
Andrew 's huge and perfect and amazing.
Everett Yeah, I think it's bizarre. I don't like it.
Andrew It doesn't match at all in a way that just perfectly works. Because it's not ceramic. It's a steel crown with a PvD uh marker stripe in it. No, this this nails it for me. Uh and this brand we I'm not sure we've talked about earth and before. They they're and we
Everett talked about them when they released their field watch. We we did talk about them. Oh, did we? Yeah.
Andrew Okay. So we've got a new Aventurine edition.
Everett Yeah. Uh and I'm I'm for it
Andrew . In ceramic. They caught you with the Avent
Everett uring. They they they brought me
Andrew with the eventurine and you're historic
Everett ally kind of a sucker for aventurine andrew i am
Andrew well done aventurine so
Everett uh cassio when cas Casio released their EFK 100 watches uh last year, we came out of no I did we almost talked about them on the show. In fact, we did talk about them on the show, but we did so briefly, you know, occasionally when we get to the end of the show, we look at the list of things we haven't gotten to and then we kind of blast through. That's what we did. I never
Andrew link them because by the time we concluded, I delete the
Everett in this case you did link it. Oh about that. In this case you did link it. With that said, we didn't give it the full treatment. And that is, I think, in no small part because I'll speak for myself, but I think you were sort of of the same mind, at least at the time. I was underwhelmed by the decisions that Cassio made. And my point was you're Casio you are one of the biggest companies on earth right you have you have R D capabilities beyond 99.999% of all companies on eart
Andrew h. And and and that means 100% of all watch companies.
Everett Make a fucking movement, Cassio. Uh they didn't. They didn't. And not only did they not make a movement, which fine, fine, they used an NH 35, which for me was
Andrew an absolute miss
Everett . I sorry. I'm sorry. NH35 is a movement that's res
Andrew erved for mic
Everett robrands that are offering the best possible entry point into an automatic watch. That's my that's my personal opinion. For anybody else, an NH35 is a miss, I think. And and sorry, you can disagree, and I know a lot of you, a lot of you disagree.
Andrew Disagree all you want. That's the reality of where the NH35 sits in the hierarchy of available automatic movements in the space.
Everett It was a bummer for me. I saw that and I was like, you know what, Cassio, I don't care. And then we pushed this watch to the very end of the episode. We kind of talked about it. I was disappointed. I think Andrew, you sort of shared some of those sentiments, maybe not as vehemently as me. With that said, with that said, Casio has evolved quietly, has evolved their autom
Andrew atic EFK wat
Everett ch, which is to say we now have the EFK 100 being upgraded to the EFK 110. Thank you, Cassio, for that novelty of naming conventions. And it'
Andrew s better than one of one. They did
Everett not they did not make their own movement. Okay.
Andrew So I Everett still slightly disappo
Everett inted. With that said, they moved it to a Miyota eighty two fifteen, which is physically a much more enticing package for me. With that change, they were able to make this watch a millimeter smaller with instead of thirty-nine down to thirty-eight millimeter and almost a full millimeter thinner down to eleven eight from twelve point five. Um which means it is
Unknown a way fucking
Everett better watch. It's just a way better watch. Look, it is virtually identical. You would look at these and say, that's the same watch.
Andrew Yeah. Except that it's better. And
Everett rew, I better saw this photograph.
Andrew Yeah, the the side to side photograph is uh shocking. What they could do in they they frankly they just they they clicked the right corner of the screen and scaled it down to an appropriate size. This is now a viable first automatic watch.
Everett A hundred. We're gonna link to the Fratello article on this, the Fratello write-up on this watch, because Fratello did a good job capturing the dimensions. In particular, there's a photo in that write-up that has these two wat
Andrew ches stacked, one on top of the other
Everett . And it's like, oh,
Andrew you fixed it. It went from being a bummer to PRX. I accept. Almost. Like, I think this could be like a PRX competitor, not a killer, right? This isn't gonna step in, but this could this is an absolute PRX competitor in every dimension. The colors are good.
Everett I could I could probably go without better than a PR. I mean Casio, the one thing Casio does way better than Tissot or Citizen for that matter is finishing.
Andrew I but I could do without the texture on the dial, right? This still has kind of the like sport mode, like beach sport mode, not sport watch, but like beach sport mode go play volleyball in it, bro, with your Pit Viper texture on it. Uh which I I could could do without. I think if they if they make these in some matte and some some gloss. I you you have a not a PRX killer, but but certainly bleeding off some market share.
Everett These are coming in at about $315, uh, which makes them I think pretty spicy. Um i i i if you're okay with a little bit of
Andrew rotor wobble uh
Everett say that five times fast. If you're wob
Andrew ble that was once. That's all you get
Everett . Um I think this is really cool. And I think that this takes a release that for me was super disappointing. Um, I think in fact, I'm gonna quote myself, I hate this watch, to a watch that I'm like, yeah, this is cool. This is cool
Andrew it it does a thing
Everett it's cool yeah I I I I find that this I find this watch to be um incredibly acceptable. Now, uh, this is an integrated link. Uh, Cassio has done integrated in a really weird way. They've got a captive male end link that is that sits, it's a milled end link and it s
Andrew its above the
Everett lugs which come all the way in. I want to say that this is about a 10 or a 12 millimeter male end link. And it's a really good look
Andrew . Yeah. If you're going to do
Everett male end links, this is the way to do it. It is a really attractive attachment mechanism. Uh, but obviously that creates some limitations in terms of what you can put this on. Uh
Andrew I don't think you you're gonna need anything but the bracelet. You wear you buy this to be
Everett worn on the bracelet. That's right. I d I feel like it's a bit a of bit a of trend to this show. I I'm having trouble
Andrew identifying what the trend, but there's like
Everett a theme to this show, which is well, I don't know. Something about movements. You got anything else you want to talk about
Andrew ? Uh no. And I'm gonna close the links before you start blasting.
Everett Okay, so with that said, we will we will bl
Andrew ast a little bit. Unim
Everett atic released a rad special op
Andrew s. He did. I'm actually I'll link that.
Everett Sort of one of their dive chronographs, but we've got a sterile bezel on this.
Andrew Unimatic does the coolest shit. T
Everett imex uh re-released their titanium GMT. Um it's more of the same, but we've got green. Uh if you like that thing. Uh if you like that sort of thing, I should say. W Whathat el elsese? do you got? Oh, I don
Andrew 't have anything else. I'll close on links. New
Everett Kuame Tokyos that are beautiful. I did get I did get my Kwame Tokyo, which I'm very happy about. And For Max has a reef 395 with forged carbon and it's it's pretty sexy. Forged carbon dial and bezel insert. Andrew, other things. What do you got
Andrew ? Uh so one of my favorite parts about New York City is street meat. Right? Like you you can't walk
Everett a block. He means he means street meat that you that you put in your mouth and then and then that ends up in your stomach and gets digested
Andrew . Uh it's my favorite part of New York City. You can't you can't walk two blocks and remain hungry. Right? Like New Yorkers are just a people that are never hungry. Sure. Because it it's just everywhere.
Everett I'm also a people that's never hungry
Andrew . Uh and every time I go to a Euro stand, they squirt this red sauce on the top of the Euro, but it comes from not a labeled squirt bottle. It's like a reusable squirt bottle. And they're all squirting the same red sauce on my Euro. It doesn't matter what street meat vendor you go to.
Everett From it's every
Andrew one's squirting the same it's red sauce.
Everett Halal hot sauce. It
Andrew is. So, but here's the problem. The halal guys, ever that's who they're buying it from. Uh pres presumably, right? This is confirmed by Reddit. But they don't sell to like normal people. I can't buy just a bottle of it and and have it delivered to my home. I have to go bribe a street meat vendor and I don't have any of those locally. So I that's we do
Everett we do have a law cards in Eugene, Oregon, just in case you're like, oh man, they're the back. We do have halal cards
Andrew . Yeah, but our downtown and and food cart zone is like six blocks.
Everett Andrew can't go down there either.
Andrew Yeah. Also that. Uh but here's the deal. You can't get it at your house. So I went to the Reddit and the Google and found like I don't know, a handful of people suggesting that they had clones or close twos or like hey di if you buy this it's similar to ultimately I w,ent with the hey, I found about seven recipes that claim to be the clone. So I condensed that and kind of tweaked my own off of it and made a batch of it. And it was fantastic. Uh you tried it. You have it at your house
Everett . Andrew, I have since you dropped this off yesterday, eaten this on um coconut rice. I've eaten it on uh chicken, like a slow cooked sous vide chicken. I ate it on fettuccine alfredo. I ate it on a peanut butter and jelly pita sandwich that I had before baseball practice today. Uh I have put it on I think every single meal that I've had since you dropped it off.
Andrew That is the vote of confidence that I wanted. It's not exactly the same. It's fuck
Everett ing fire. It is a fire.
Andrew It is not better, it is not worse. It is exactly what I wanted it to be. It's nice and smooth, it's thin. It's not like a thick drizzle on. It's a th it's a thin like drip upon.
Everett But not watery. Not watery, because it's
Andrew there's no water in it. It is so I just like basically the recipes that I found were like cayenne pepper, chili peppers, like just put all the hot shit in your house into a pot, add a little bit of sugar, some vinegar, some lemon, some salt, and just a splash of water and just let it cook. Cook it really. Just simmer it. But I didn't simmer it for very long. It probably simmered for like 40 minutes. I also added some harisa some harisa paste to give a little bit of smoke. And man, it hit it's shelf stable because there's nothing, all the ingredients are dried. Just buzz it in a blender or a food processor until it's totally smooth. I've done it. I don't know why I waited so long. I it's so good. It's like it's flash spicy. It doesn't hang on. That
Everett is what I was just gonna say. You get a little bit of
Andrew sweat beating on your hairline, regardless of where it is. You get some sweat beating, a s a flash of heat, and then it's just gone. It po
Everett ps you and then it and then it doesn't linger and it doesn't for me at least, why I'm M V, it doesn't mess with my guts
Andrew . It does not give me phase three problems
Everett . Correct. Yeah. It it's fantastic, man. Uh I'm I'm a big I l like legitimately had this on every meal that I've had since you dropped it off
Andrew . I you It's one of
Everett my favorite hot sauces I've ever had. You had to have
Andrew known that I was bringing you some because when I knocked on your door, it was just Kim home.' Ss likehe, You have some hot sauce for me? I'm gonna put on chicken. She like just knew why I was coming over. Because you can't make a small batch of something like that. You need to make like twenty or more ounces. So
Everett question, Andrew, you were gonna post your recipe
Andrew . No, I could there there's no recreating it. I just I went kind of freestyle on it. I had some like dried Thai chilies and some chili de ar bowl, and like I just took all the dry chilies I had in my pantry and some Thai chili flakes, some red pepper flakes, some harissa, and some lemon juice, and just buzzed it with Yeah, there's no there was no recipe. I'm not good at recipe making.
Everett Yeah. Well, it you should do that. You know what, Andrew? I am going to that's I've got a gift idea for you. Uh, we have at my house, we have a um family recipe book. And in that book, this has become, you know, Kim and I have been married 20 years in June. Uh which is crazy.
Andrew Right. Um, but in
Everett that time, we've accumulated recipes from, you know, probably, you know, at this point, half a dozen family members who we'll never talk to again. Uh
Andrew because you don't want to or because they're expired.
Everett Because they died. Okay. Um recipes from you know, both of our parents, you know, including recipes that we had to like sort of coax out of them, and and also our own recipes. And
Andrew the this book,
Everett when we got it, was you know a little silly. I was like, okay, this is cute, but a little silly. Well, it's evol
Andrew ved into
Everett one of my prized possessions. That
Andrew 's really sweet. Really um
Everett irreplaceable. You know, we should probably at some point di digitize it, back it up. But um because if it if the house were to burn, it would be gone today. So that's that's a good reminder. But um yeah, I I I occasionally, not always, not every recipe, but when I when we get a recipe and it's like that's a fucking winner, we're gonna make that again. I will write that down and put it in a card, and at some point we'll transfer this over and give this to our children, right? And say these are those, these are the recipes that
Andrew you grew up eating. That you grew up eating
Everett . And uh anyway, I I I'm thinking of that for you. Um, of course, now that I've said that, I've ruined the surprise, but it it'll be long enough for from now before I have a chance to give you a present. Um so
Andrew I have a a non
Everett -traditional other thing today. It's not a show or a thing I bought. Uh do me. Uh with that said, it is something, and I do this from time to time, right? It's more of like an experience. I um recently Andrew got into um pistols, firing weapons. I'm not a
Andrew sports. Shooting sports. I'm not a hun
Everett ter, and I'm not likely to become a hunter. I'm also not a I don't think a traditional second amendment type. In fact I I'm sort of a gun control proponent. I think you in a lot of ways
Andrew .
Everett With that said, I have um, you know, uh some experience with firearms through the military, not a lot. Um, but I've just, you know, this is interesting to me. And it's interesting to me, and it's something I want to know more about. So within that, um you know, it it's you you can create a rabbit hole. But what one of the things I've
Andrew been as you have as you have
Everett . One of the things I've been thinking about is okay, okay, now that I'm now that I'm interested in this hobby, I need to make sure that I'm doing it safely. And so uh you know, that can include lots of stuff, right? Um sort of a just knowledge and training and being smart and being careful, but
Andrew uh eye pro, eye protection, e
Everett ar protection. Um, but the sort of the the thing that kept coming back to me was this idea of an IFAC or an individual first aid kit, which is what the acronym IFAC stands for. And I decided, you know, if I'm going to be you know going Andrew, you and I don't know, I hope you don't mind me saying so. We joined a local gun club. It's Isaac Walton Gun Club, which is a hippie organization, and it's just I think
Andrew it's also a dichotomy. I
Everett f I'm going to join a gun club, this is the perfect one. Um, I went to just shoot some targets the other day, and there was an entire group of trans shooters that were there practicing. And I was like, I've they sho
Andrew ot USPSA, and from what I understand, they're fucking nail drivers.
Everett I found I found my home, right? Like this place is awesome. Any anywayway,. I don't mean to get political, but it just like you know, it's not a typical prototypical, like it
Andrew just everybody's welcome.
Everett That's right, everybody's welcome. And and and so anyway, I don't mean to talk about guns, but what I do want to talk about is putting together this. I've had so much fun learning about first aid, learning about how to implement first aid. You know, you you and I both went through many of the same army training. I don't want to say we went through the same army training because we did different things. Some sim
Andrew ilar things. Some similar
Everett things. And so you know, one of the things that we're trained to use is a tourniquet and an Israeli bandage. And um you know, these things, these terms you use, I I have some of this knowledge, but not a ton of it. But re
Andrew -assessing sort of my knowled
Everett ge of that stuff and building this. I'm not a prepper and I'm not a bug-out guy,
Andrew but I do like the idea that if
Everett something were to happen, I would be a I would be prepared both in terms of knowledge and in terms of stuff.
Andrew Well, yeah, there's there's like real value in like sitting on your couch and watching the Mariners play and hearing your wife make a weird noise from the driveway and go out and find that she's broken her leg on a scooter and knowing what to do.
Everett That's right. There like the value
Andrew of immediate action, uh, not necessarily trauma care, because trauma care is a s a slightly higher level, but immediate action first aid is super valuable. And it's something that we've kind of like eskewed in our very convenient worlds. And like the moment you're out of cell phone service and you're on your own
Everett , people die. Yeah
Unknown . Because you just like don't
Andrew know what to do. You you know, sto
Everett pping a hemorrhage is i is something that I think very few people have to deal with. Um, but if you And the one time
Andrew you ever have to you really wish you need
Unknown you knew how. That's right. That's right
Everett . And so, you know, I'm a baseball coach and I I that was actually the inspiration of starting the first aid kit. Was I I needed to have a coach's first aid kit. And as I started, I I was like, well, I could go to Dick's and buy that first aid kit that they have on the shelf. Uh and I thought, well, but you know what? I I I think if I were to do that, it would have a bunch of stuff that I really didn't want and it wouldn't have the things that I did want. And so I was like, no, I'm gonna spend probably a little bit more money, just be clear. I'm not saving money, but I'm gonna actually make a first aid kit that I think is gonna work for me. And I'm
Andrew something that's more than band-aids, sting gel, burn gel, and
Everett I have those things. Yeah. But something that's
Andrew more than those things. But I but instead
Everett of having like 15 different sizes of bandages, one of whom one of which anybody's ever gonna want.
Unknown Nobody even knows what to do with that band-
Andrew aid. I have the bandages that
Everett I know that I use in my regular life and I have those in there. And I have, you know, the the burn gel that I think this is the good burn gel. This is the one I want to have. And I have, you know, knee is for and simple. But but also uh I have you know the tape that I would want to use if I were to put a big band-aid on my hand or a big piece of gauze. This is the tape I'd want to use. You know, I have those things. And then also within that, I was like, okay, now it's time for me to refresh myself on how do you use an Israeli bandage? How do you use a tourniquet? And I'm going to get those things. So I have them, God forbid, should I need them, but also refresh myself on how do I use those things? How do I use a how do I use a clay
Andrew infused gau
Everett ze package, right? Because if you want to stop bleeding, one of the ways you can do that is by stuffing sort of a coagulant or a clotting gauze into that wound. How do you use that? Well, I'll tell you what. I know now because I forced myself to learn how to use that. I ordered that product in case I need it. God forbid. And I don't mean not necessarily for a gunshot. I mean there's all sorts of reasons penet
Andrew rating injuries. We have kids. That
Everett 's right. That's right. Penetrating
Andrew injuries are not unusual. You fall into a bush and you get the hard, like the the the actual like long hard stick and not one of the little little leafy things you have a penetrating injury
Everett . And I and I think for the the way I've been you know enjoying gun sports, I'm in way more likely to have that type of injury than I would be gun injuries. You know, got God forbid something bad happens in any event. But it just, it was more like, okay, I'm gonna be not a prepper, but prepared
Andrew and and importantly different.
Everett And that and that's been really I don't know. There's something about it that's been satisfying to me. Emp
Andrew owering and valentrating and uh meaningful. Like and also
Everett I gotta buy some cool kit. Yeah, like
Andrew so my my younger son is autistic and makes some weird choices sometimes when he gets upset. Like two years ago he was mad at us and he was like, I'm gonna do this. And he grabbed the glass of our of the glass shield of the pellet stove. And then it had immediate like second-degree burns on his entire palm. Which would typically be an emergency room trip to get burn gel. Because that's what they do for burns. Because they weren't significant enough to require anything else. I had my aid kit and all my burn gel and my gauze and he had a burn mitten for a week. Yeah. Because I had the things and the knowledge necessary to be able to address the issue. And and and yeah,
Everett you know, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's it'
Unknown s just being prepared. I I I you know what,
Everett my my other thing for the week is I built a first aid kit and quote unquote IFAC, more of a trauma kit. And in the process of that I learned how to use all these things, and I just feel like I'm more prepared. Were I to be with your kids and Calvin were to grab some hot thing, or if I were to be with my kids and or my family and someone were to get hurt, I feel like I would be able to I I f feel like m you know in a fight or flight your body is like what am I prepared to do? I think my brain would be like, you know what to do
Andrew ? Just do the thing. Just do the thing.
Everett And that that felt good. That felt fun and it was enjoyable. And like I said, I gotta buy some new kit. I bought a pair
Andrew of Leatherman Raptor Shears. You did buy some baller shears. The problem is with buying baller shears, is that like after you use shears, you don't want to keep them.
Everett Oh sure. Well, these things are cool, so I like having them and they weren't that expensive.
Andrew I I have gone through like a a couple dozen. I every time I use a pair of shears, I just I just get a new pair.
Everett Do you get them for free? No, I
Andrew do have to buy shears. Yeah. Well, but they're cheap. I bought
Everett a I bought a pair and they were I got a great deal on them.
Andrew I use them a lot though. You
Everett cut people's clothes off a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I imagine I will never use these to close cut people's clothes off.
Andrew But and save them for only that purpose.
Everett If I need them, I will have them. That's all I got. Andrew, anything else you want to add before we go
Andrew ? Buy the good shit and be ready to use it. I think that's the takeaway
Everett . Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair. Hey folks, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, the WatchClicker podcast. If you want to uh go to our website, it's watchclicker.com. If you want to follow us on social media, it is at watchclicker or at 40 and 20 underscore watchclicker, both on Instagram. If you want to support this show and the watchclicker slash 40 and 20 operation, you can do that on Patreon. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. Look, guys, that's how we get the money to keep this thing going. It's not an insignificant amount of money. Uh yeah. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20, that is how you support us. If you haven't, but just check it out. Just check it out. Kick the buck. And don't forget to tune back in next Tuesday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like
Andrew . Bye-bye.