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Seiko, Citizen, and Tissot (386)

Published on Tue, 24 Mar 2026 22:13:49 -0700

Synopsis

Andrew and Everett host this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker Podcast, discussing recent watch releases and sharing personal updates. The conversation covers new timepieces from Christopher Ward (C63 True GMT with jumping hour), Tissot (redesigned Visodate), Jack Mason (Palmera skin diver with unique pre-order model), Seiko (King Seiko VANAC in titanium and Marine Master updates), Citizen (Proton celebrating 50 years of Eco-Drive), and Squale (Sub-37 Legend). They debate pricing, design choices, and whether various watches justify their cost points, with particular attention to the current state of the watch market.

The hosts express mixed opinions on several releases, with Andrew loving the Tissot Visodate and Citizen Proton while taking issue with Christopher Ward's C63 subdial design, and Everett defending the C63 while being skeptical of the King Seiko VANAC. They discuss how brands like Jack Mason and Citizen are positioning themselves in an increasingly competitive market. For "other things," Andrew enthusiastically recommends frozen hash brown patties cooked in an air fryer, while Everett shares his experience purchasing a Leatherman Wave Plus multi-tool—remarkably, the same tool he bought 18 years earlier.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20 the WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? Crushing it. Just just crushing it. You gu
Everett ys didn't see, but that
Andrew that second was actually Everett shotgunning and then subsequently forehead squashing a can
Everett . It's true. It's true. That's what we
Andrew do on Tuesday nights. It's tru
Everett e. Uh yeah, no, doing well. The uh the uh weather gods reminded us that it's not quite summer. In fact, it's just the fourth day of spring today. Oh, but
Andrew it was so perfect. Yesterday I did a bucket load of
Everett yard work. I mowed everyt
Andrew hing. I put down a bunch of like overseed. Nice. I watered it all in and I was like, Please rain tomorrow. Please rain tomorrow. And it did. And it did, yeah
Everett . Yeah, we got um I don't know, I think we got like an inch and a half of rain today. So
Andrew yeah. Uh it it's between the hours of six and seven fifteen when I was parked outside standing on a track.
Everett I think that puts us only about a hundred inches short on the year.
Andrew Yeah, never mind the snowpack we didn't get. It is gonna be a bad summer
Everett . It might be. Yeah. It might be. Uh but no, I I'm I'm doing well. The uh the Trowblazers last I checked were in the eighth spot for the playoffs. Um yeah. March Madness is
Andrew in full swing. In full swing
Everett . Yeah. I think I don't baseball is like it's happening. It's right. I mean, we're right there. Baseball's happening. And I don't mean my kids baseball. I mean mariner's baseball
Andrew get ready for 74 games a week
Everett oh god i love it so much i love it so much i
Unknown i just can't i can't i've
Andrew tried. I like watching baseball and I like following baseball. I just can't get invested into it. I
Everett fired up my office TV today. Just to have some baseball on. It's the best. I tr
Andrew ied to watch some basketball over the weekend. And it was all like it was it was just women's college basketball. Yeah. Which was really enteringtain to watch because I I that's just not what I was looking to watch. I was hoping to catch like a couple early games of Men's March Madness and follow my bracket
Everett . I do have a relatively new legal assistant, Jessica, and uh had baseball on the TV and Jessica came in and said, I didn't realize that was a TV because it's one of those Samsung frame, so it Do you
Andrew think I changed the painting three times a day? Like pay attention.
Everett I don't ever change it. It's always the same. It's a this really cool painting of Lake Tahoe, but uh uh yeah. No, she was like, that's a that's a television. Yes it is
Andrew . It is, because I own the place. My name's on the sign
Everett . Get out. That's I say that actually pretty frequently in the office
Andrew . You should. If your name is on the sign.
Everett My name's on the door. You did see the front door when you came in? My name is on it
Andrew . I would just routinely remind people of that. For no reason. Like just walk by the road. My name's on the door
Everett . Andrew, watches, what do you got? Um
Andrew , you know, I I I don't have any watch news this week, so I'm wondering if you have anything.
Everett Watch news?
Andrew Yeah, anything like not like new release. Yeah
Everett . Um no. Okay.
Andrew Then uh let's let's get it started with I think uh is not gonna be a surprise to anyone because this isn't particularly new. Wait
Everett , wait, before you start, I I do want to remark on something before we get going. Uh as I sent you the links for today's episode, I was like, this feels very 2019
Andrew . Yes. This fe
Everett els very 2019. Like Seiko, Citizen, Tisso, Citizen, Doxa
Andrew , Christopher Ward
Everett . But even the releas
Andrew es, they they didn't feel um they all felt like safely familiar. Yeah. Right? Like I won we'll get to a citizen that feels like it should have been released in 2020. Uh, but is maybe more fitting now in 2026. What I want to talk about right now is the Christopher Ward C63 True GMT, which adds a local jumping hour to the lineup. Uh, for those of you who have somehow been living uh not just under a rock, but under a pile of rocks, perhaps in the um in the wreckage of Pompeii even, uh the C sixty three is is probably um my favorite platform that Christopher Ward has released ever. And uh they've just upgraded their GMT to a new jumping out jumping hour movement. So this is a forty point five millimeter case, fourteen point one five thick, a little thick, but I'm actually wearing my C63 today. I didn't even this wasn't planned. Um a silver, white, and black dial. The movement, hang on, let's find it, is the Christopher Ward 002, uh, which my guess is uh the Salita 200 that they have been using with some modules attached to it to add this jumping hour functionality. It is a cost certified watch, and I am kind of gonna end my excitement there. Cause I don't super dig the way they've done the subdials and kind of open heart, open worked feel at the three o'clock. Yeah. Uh it feels it it so we have a five day power reserve chronometer certified subdial at the nine o'clock, a running seconds six o'clock, and then kind of a It's not a teardrop, nor is it an oval. It's an oval, but it's not it's it's like a pointed end oval kind of skeletonization at the three o'clock that butts up right up against the date window. Um and I it feels kind of belcanto y it feels kind of skeletony it feel I I think this fits in the realm that the Bel Canto did where they're trying to be really hot and do some cool shit and they they just it doesn't doesn't land for me dog. The rest of it really excites me. I love this new complication that they've added. I love the jumping hour. I do not care for the power reserve indicator.
Everett Is it a jumping hour? I didn't I didn't notice that. I know it's a true GMT.
Andrew Or a jumping hour hand. Not not a jumping hour. A jumping hour hand
Everett . Um and
Andrew I'm I I I love all of it but for the presentation. I love the idea. Uh it's a really lovely watch. It but it I don't I there's there's something amiss, and I think it's in the the subdial application and this weird skeletonization at the three o'clock uh that I think is unnecessary. And kind of out of character, I think for Christopher Ward, this feels like I don't know, this it it feels like they they overcomplicated it in ways that they didn't need to because something that Christopher Ward has been really good about is their uh and and so bear with me here, their restraint, right? The Belcanto is not a restrained watch, but they didn't go too far with it. They took it right to the edge of the envelope. It's gorgeous. It's functional. They don't have shit they don't need on the Belcanto. As needless as the Belcanto is.'s There not needless stuff applied to it. There is needless stuff applied to this watch and it it feels a little bit like they like they maybe left the stable open overnight and and got ran a little bit wild. Um so a couple notes. Okay
Everett . One, this is the CW02 movement, which is built and based upon the
Andrew CW001 mov
Everett ement, which is FKA
Andrew , uh the SH2
Everett 1, which is Christopher Ward's all Swiss cost certified in-house movement. Yes. Designed by I think it was designed externally, but then they l
Andrew ater purchased the
Everett company that
Andrew I forgot about that. So yep. Uh it's an
Everett in-house i i this is a truly in-house movement, so so uh contrary to
Andrew your prior slander. It w it was not slant. Oh hang on. I did not mention the price. These are uh four grand.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. On rubber and and for
Andrew ty one hundred money on a bracelet. Yeah,
Everett look. So that that was my next note. So this is I'm gonna push back on something you said, which is that they this is sort of out of character for them. I think that this is actually really a really sensical evolution of perhaps not the Belcanto. The Belcanto sort of is its own thing, but the C12 logo, um the this feels to me like a pretty natural evolution of Christopher Ward's design language. I mean, we have increasingly seen Christopher Ward with its higher end offerings really pushing the limit on um pushing the limits of that sort of entry level micro brand afford,able watch brand. Um but the it design but it all mak
Andrew es sense, right? I think what I'm not I think what bothers me is the weird open work at the three o'clock. I think if that goes away, I'm good with everything else
Everett . And you know, when the loco came out, when the C twelve loco came out, I I had the criticism that hey, you know, this this watch just doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Like, I I don't understand w why we're doing this. I don't feel that way. I don't feel that way about this watch. This watch makes a lot of sense to me. The open work makes sense to me. They've got this beautiful movement and I forgot
Andrew about the logo. I'm I must have just like obliterated that from my memory. I'm looking at it now and I'm just like, ah, yeah. I see the progression here and I don't like it. Uh with that
Everett said, I I really think this is excellent. I I this is gonna be true for a lot of watches we talk about today, but I am struggling to I'm struggling to think that I would pay four thousand dollars for this
Andrew watch. Um I yeah because at that four thousand dollar price point you're like you're in really really heavy competition that I think I like a lot of other watches $4,000 worth.
Everett I really don't like the endlink. Really don't like it. I like everything else. Aesthetically, I like ever everything else. Um they're giving us this, you know, dimension, it's a 14.15 thick, but it's got this hi-hat crystal without the crystal, just 9.75. Crystal forward. This is obviously a light catcher case, so we're gonna have watch spanks. Um, I I am sure this is gonna work just fine. It is a it is a big watch, but uh I I think it's appropriately sized, especially when you consider that light catcher case. I love the rotor, the rotor looks almost like it's just a sort of a satellite in the middle, uh, but it's got weight to towards one side. I actually think the dial on this is terrific. I love the way that they did the 24 hours. Um, I love the way they did the 12 hours. I love the way they've got these sub-dials, um, including the power reserve. I'm okay with everything here, Andrew.
Andrew It's a well-executed power reserve indicator because it it doesn't scream power reserve indicator. It's not a fan. It's not a half moon. It's not something goofy. It's a full subdial that when you look at it could be anything except that you know it's a power reserve indicator.
Everett And for five days, I don't just I don'
Andrew t I I don't know. I'm this is maybe my first Christopher Ward that I take issues with
Everett . I'm not with you. I I actu
Andrew ally really like it. I do think that pri
Everett ce is a little troublesome. I do think that end link is a lot troublesome. Uh but other than that, I just I I l like it a lot. Um I I it's it they hit for me. I struggle with that price.
Andrew I love that it's Cosk. It's not Cosk plus.
Everett In-house Kosk. Yeah, I
Andrew I love all of that. Mike France says it's a labor of pain, not of love, to get something to production like this. And I I couldn't agree more. I love that it exists. I just I the the design language of the dial just does not resonate with me in the way that a lot of Christopher Ward does. Most of Christopher Ward for that matter.
Everett I'll say one other thing. I often think that Christopher Ward misses with color, at least for my own taste. I really like both of these. I really like both of these dials. We so we've got the silver dial with the like gold or orange accents and then we've got the black dowel with the teal accents. I I think they've done a really good job with the color. The black and
Andrew teal is really good. Yeah.
Everett Um so and and so much of this is subjective, Andrew, right
Andrew ? No, we're we're objective truth tellers. Like our what we say is canon. That's true
Everett . You're not wrong. It is the way
Andrew . It is known. You no, you
Everett 're 100% right about that, Andre
Andrew w. Thank you, I'm aware. Um Tisso. Tiss
Everett o. Tisso, Tisso, Tisso. Tisso just released a new visidate
Andrew . They show did. And
Everett it's sort of an old visidate. So for those of you that got into watches at the same time as
Andrew me, which is to say 20
Everett 17, 2016 time frame, the Tisso Viso
Andrew date was one of those
Everett watches that was out there, an affordable watch. I mean, I think they came in at anywhere from 50$0 to $800, $700 maybe.
Andrew They were a little bit of a lift for a first watch. That's right.
Everett That's right. But they were beautiful and you could find them used. Um but it was like the type of watch that was always just like right outside of what I wanted. It's kind of a weird watch. That that late teens visodate. I don't know when it came out so I'm just saying for me it was late teens is when I discovered that watch it it's got like this dog bowl mid-case and is kind of thick but not and really attractive I'm sure that it made early on lists for us. Um uh but you know, I think quietly discontinued a couple years ago, probably for good reason. They've reintroduced the visitate, and it's not that. In fact, they've reintroduced the visidate, and I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say this thing is fucking awesome.
Andrew It is hot fire. Um
Everett 39 millimeters, which is in diameter a, slightly slimmer case than the old one. Um, but but really it's just a much more delicate watch, more sporty than the old velvet
Andrew . I think is the way to describe this upgrade. It's felt. W
Everett hat did I say? It got a it got a glow
Andrew up. It did get a glow up
Everett . Um uh the biggest change here is in the dial. So the old visitate had sort of this flat, boring dial, something that I'm a fan of often. Uh, here we've got a pipant dial
Andrew . Uh so we
Everett traded the intrigue of the dog bowl case, which that sounds bad when I say it. I like that case, the original.
Andrew It's a really good case. To a more a
Everett more sort of typical sport dr
Andrew ess. Kind of has kinseiko-y vibes
Everett . But with this lovely pie pan dial uh with a really nice rehot and some good dial texture sort of brushed in the middle um uh you know vertically brushed in the middle,
Andrew but it's not actually brushed outs
Everett ide. It's just brushing patterns. Ye
Andrew ah, that's right. It's not texture. I think it's an important distinction to make
Everett . That's right. A great um, a great sort of angular date window on this thing. Uh man, this is good, Andrew
Andrew . Yes. This
Everett is good. So uh we do have unsurprisingly to anybody who's been following along at home, we've got a powermatic 80 movement in this
Andrew . Whoa. U
Everett h and 850 bucks, 950 bucks for the blue and black on the bracelet, and 850 for the uh silver dial with the faux gold accents. Um
Andrew yeah. This is a
Everett this is a banger. Y
Andrew es. What h what what what
Everett up, T so? Wel
Andrew come back visitate.
Everett I I'm struggling to find it right now, but uh did you see the Z dimension on this, Andrew
Andrew ? It is 10.45. Th
Everett ere you go. With a with a big bo
Andrew x crystal. Which is great. My guess is it's gonna be I mean the looking at the profile of it it's a razor thin i it can't be more than nine thick
Everett really lovely champers on this great bezel thin bezel kind of pushed out to the outside great crown um just a very tasteful very tasteful watch 50 meters of water resistance i mean
Andrew it i i i realize it's
Everett not the same price but when you compare this to the cocktail time or the bambino
Andrew that I think
Everett sort of fill this space, it just maybe a step down. This for me crushes those watches.
Andrew Oh, yeah. And this is this isn't that much more expensive than a cocktail time.
Everett Yeah, certainly not a cocktail time. I mean, it's it's way more expensive than a bambino, but um
Andrew but I think if you're like, and we'll get to a King Seiko release here shortly, but I think if that like 60s feel is what you're looking at, and you're not ready for the $2,000 King Seiko feel but you want all the right reliability all the heritage uh yeah there's something here I do have one complaint I have I have up an article. It's the photography
Everett . The product photography?
Andrew Yeah. What about it? One has to think that you're gonna clean your crystal before you take photographs of it and that this isn't this isn't shit below the crystal. W
Everett hat website is that? I don't think that that's not one of that's not a T so photograph.
Andrew It I don't want to call anybody out by name.
Everett Yeah, fair enough
Andrew . If you're gonna take product photography
Everett , well, that's that's not on T so that's on that specific
Andrew . And any of those. Wpei the dial or the the crystal. Don't don't leave it up to our imagination if their QC is terrible and there's a lint trap underneath the crystal.
Everett Yeah, I mean I I'd say uh unless you really love that silver dial, get this in black or blue on a bracelet. Oh
Andrew , the black is where it's at. The blue is really good. It's like a really like gemstone dark full blue. I I'll leave it to you to actually describe blues because your your blue lexicon is much greater than mine. It's Pantone 346 with a little touch of Pantone 0359. Uh is that accurate?
Everett Let's move it along. Okay.
Andrew Uh this is a killer killer release. Welcome back, Visidate. We're here for the party.
Everett Yeah. Thanks, Visidate. Thanks, Tisso
Andrew . Alwawaysys, al with the win. Uh, I have a fun one. Um J Press and Bamford London have collaborated on the fun Ivy League. So uh Bamford London, I'm sure we've talked about some of their watches before. Uh J Press is a uh very old clothing brand. Sort of a track cl
Everett other. 1902. Yep.
Andrew Uh famous for uh their Ivy League influence, uh a shirt worn by many presidents of these United States. I also own a J Press shirt.
Everett I've got a couple of them. Uh
Andrew but a uh n uh it's not high fashion, but a a very in
Everett trad fashion. Yeah. But it but it ha
Andrew and has been for a hundred and twenty years. Liter
Everett ally. Uh a
Andrew cornerstone of fashion have collaborated on a watch that they're calling the Ivy League. They're making a hundred of these. The dial, in lieu of uh markers has divided the dial up into twelve college pendant triangular shaped uh triangles that's the word I'm looking for. Uh
Everett with Pennant. Penance. W
Andrew hat did I say? Pendant. Pendant. That's different. Penance uh bearing the number of the hour that you're in. They're alternating colors, they're fun, they're only making a hundred of these.
Everett You will not be surprised at the colors when you look at this thing
Andrew . Nope, they will all make sense because they correspond to Ivy League schools. 39mm case, 10.5 thick, with a titanium case, which is brushed and polished, 100 meters of water resistance, uh Slita SW300 movement, a NATO-like strap. Just just you know, playing with fire there. 1600 bucks. Uh, and I think these are just like a fun, colorful release that you'll never see in the wild that uh I I don't know. I think this is this is one of my more favorite fashion brand collaborations. This
Everett feels to me like one of the doucheest wat
Andrew ches ever released. And he decided that after I said it was one of my more favorite ones.
Everett Not at all. No, I specifically didn't put this on my list today. Because I was like, the motherfucker that wears this is insufferable.
Andrew Uh probably. More so even
Everett than me. But we're both insuffer
Andrew able. That's why we get along.
Unknown It's cool, Andrew. I I do like it. I
Everett almost put it on my list and I was like tit
Andrew anium case hate the guy that wears
Everett this. I'm sure of it. Oh,
Andrew definitely. I fucking hate that
Everett guy. Definitely. But
Andrew I like the watch. It's like I like a lot of panor eyes. And when every time I meet somebody who's wearing one, I'm like, shocker
Everett . Jack Mason
Andrew . You
Everett Jack Mason. Jack Mason a brand that I have been increasingly high on. I think everyone's
Andrew increasingly high on. And Jack Mason is getting increasingly high on Jack Mason. Yeah. Yeah
Everett . Jack Mason has introduced, not y
Andrew et released, and I'll get back to that. They'
Everett ve introduced a new skin diver that they're calling the Palmera skin diver, uh, repres
Andrew enting a classic
Everett compressor style,
Andrew skin to everwatch. Just to be clear, this
Everett is not a super compressor, but it is in the compr
Andrew essor style, which is to say tw
Everett in stick. Um it's a
Andrew 39 millimeter, 47 millimeter lugged lug at 108 thick with 200 meters of water resistance. No. I've said
Everett it before, and I'll say it again. But if you can
Andrew get me thinner with 150, I would say do it. They they made choices. Mr. Mason made some choices here. Uh 10
Everett -8 is fine. It is great.
Andrew Um, we've got an internal dive time bezel controlled via the crown at two o'clock. Uh, we've got different crown markings, but Jack Mason, North Star on the four o'clock, and then a lovely sort of arrow indication, a turning arrow, which I it's cool on the two o'clo
Everett ck. Uh this comes on
Andrew a choice of either FKM rubber tropic style or a seven-link bracelet. Presently you can
Everett choose I see a three-link pic
Andrew ture too. Is that just what I don't know
Everett I I don't know that it comes on the three link.
Andrew There is a picture of this watch on a three link but I think your choices are FKM or seven link. So I think they have it on the three link for the pickleball picture because we can just throw that out of the way. Throw away pickleball, throw away the three link. Because the seven link is fire. We've got great Lumibrite all around, a really great internal bezel that curves and it's got a big chunk of Lumicast on it. Um here's the interesting bit. Oh excuse me. LJPG101 movement in it, which you know is a movement that I'm personally high on. Um, here's the interesting bit. So they are selling
Everett this in a way
Andrew that is slightly diff
Everett erent than I think I
Andrew 've ever seen a company introduce a new watch. Did you say the price
Everett ? Uh I I will get to that. Okay
Andrew . So just just hold hold that th
Everett ought for a moment. That's gone
Unknown . Um, they are
Andrew releasing this through what they're calling the Born and Raised program. And what that me
Everett ans is that they've got a fund
Andrew ing threshold. So this is sort of a mix
Everett between a pre-order system
Andrew and a crowdfunding system.
Everett But it's completely internal. It's the deal
Andrew is you can right now for $1,049
Everett at a significant discount, a $300
Andrew discount from retail. Pre-order this. Uh the founders window open until April 3rd. They need to get to 150 pieces. When I checked the website earlier, there were like 66 pieces. So I don't know if they're going to make it or not. Um if they don't make it, you'll get your money back. You will get your money back. Um it watches are tough right now, right? Watches are tough right now. And a thousand dollars a thousand dollar twin stick skin diver is is always going to be a tough watch. If they get to 200, they will have a third model that I think is got some options that people can pick from. Um yes, there's the what are they calling it? They're calling it the
Everett like the dealer's choice or something.
Andrew No, so they're calling it the oh my gosh. Community color
Everett . Yeah. So if they ach
Andrew ieve that threshold, they will also make a third option available, which is a really cool like loom green with blue internal rotating bezel. So this morning at 9
Everett a.m. they updated. So
Andrew on day three they have 66 units reserved, which means that they're a little less than halfway to their funding goal. So um I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. They
Everett are intending after April 4th to
Andrew turn these around in three months, which I think is a good timeline. Yeah, for for having just protot
Unknown ypes. Oh, 120 days, so
Andrew four months. That's
Unknown not a a terrible tur
Andrew n. Nope. Especially when you consider you're getting a pretty big discount. Um, yeah. Anyway, this is a cool watch. It's a it's a cool watch. I think Jack Mason's done a good job with it. I like the dimensions. I like the watch itself. Um
Everett interesting model too. Well uh they'
Andrew re the first ones I've seen do this specific model. So we'll we'll
Everett see how this works. No, I mean we
Andrew 've seen pre-orders before. Yeah
Everett , but this is a little different than a pre-order. It
Unknown yeah. It's like a crowdsourced pre-
Andrew order, an internally crowdsourced pre-order model. That's what most pre-orders are, though. A little different. Um I don't I I I hope it works for 'em because I would like to see Jack Mason continuing to ride their wave of success and not have something flop on them because though they would I think very easily be able to recover from it. Uh I'd I'd like to see them continue with their success. Because they turned they they've turned such a big corner going from like a a primarily quartz fashion brand to to not. Uh and they they're I think they are finding themselves in a little bit of a precarious position to not carry that momentum
Everett . Yeah, we'll see what happens
Andrew . King Seiko, three new Vanic models in full titanium. Uh, I don't really understand what the color deep black is as opposed to just black. Apparently it's it's got great depth. So this is what I do know is once you
Everett go deep black.
Andrew I don't think you have I think you're stuck there. Kind of like a black hole. Do
Everett you know what VANAC what the acronym is?
Andrew Please enlighten me. Vibr
Everett ant, active, novel, alternative, comfortable
Andrew . Hmm. Isn't that like
Everett the worst thing you've ever heard in your life?
Andrew Maybe it's more uh it makes me
Everett comfortable Japanese know that that's true.
Andrew I think I maybe it's more poetic in Japanese.
Everett It's in English.
Andrew Just let's let's hope that it's Seiko, man. What do you want? They they are naming conventions and storytelling is terrible. Um, this is a full titanium 41 millimeter case. It's 14.3 thick, duh, 45 lug to lug, 100 meters of water resistance with a big old fat sapphire flat on it. Like it this why is I just wish Sega would get their sizing right.
Everett It's got the 8L 45 movement.
Andrew It does have the 8L. That's a six millimeter mov
Everett ement. The black and the
Andrew silver are amazing. The purple is also really good. It's not for me, but this black, even with it being a big old chunk, I love. I have yet to meet a King Seiko that I'm not high on. Four thousand bucks though, which is King Seiko money. Um but the three new colors work. Yeah
Everett , three new colors and and really the most important bit of this release is they're they're all 8L
Andrew and all titanium. Yeah. Running in 8L.
Everett I think the Van Eck has always I I think this is just the steel Van Eck case, but rendered in titanium. It ha
Andrew it it ha I think the dimensions are the same. I didn't I didn't cross check that. Yeah. I like the vanic watch though. And I think in titanium this is gonna even for being thick as it is, is gonna be killer. The angles on this thing are they're what a won'
Everett t
Andrew It's not for you. It's on my list.
Everett I I had it on my list to talk about, but I didn't put it on my list to talk about because I love it. I put it on my list to talk about because I
Andrew was like interesting. It does it for me, dude. It is a b
Everett ig old chunky 60s, 70s
Andrew kingseco. Yeah. It's scratching the itch right now. Materials are really n
Everett ice. I'm sure that the uh I'm sure that the fit and finish on this is absolutely nuts.
Andrew Um but four grand though, and I think it's another one of those like I I like other watches $4,000 worth way ahead of where I like this. But I also can't balk at the price like that. It makes sense.
Everett Yeah. It's just I think my four
Andrew thousand dollars goes elsewhere. Where it also makes sense. And I just I like to watch more dollars worth
Everett . Well, since we're at it, let's talk about a uh another set of
Andrew Seiko's released this last week
Everett , which are the new Marine Master Divers
Andrew . Mm-hmm. Uh
Everett Yeah. Yeah. So uh I want to say last year Seiko updated their Marine Master and it was sort of like uh well they fixed some of the problems with that release, I think, which is to say they released the uh a new sort of uh catalog Marine Master with a polished ceramic bezel, eight L movement, and an and the upgraded clasp. They're also releasing this with a limited edition. I I want to say the acronym is JAMSDEC, but it's the Japan Agency for Marine Earth Science and Technology.
Andrew Also very close to James Stacy
Everett . Which is interesting because James Stacy wrote this. Yeah. Um
Andrew Yeah, so uh again
Everett , eight L series movements, 300 meter water resistance, which is not a shock to anybody who's been following the Marine Master. Uh you know what
Andrew they could have done? They should have just dumped it like 100 meters. I can just go full seiko on this.
Everett The jam stack is limited to a thousand pieces. It is a blue, really interesting dial, sort of teal to dark blue to teal gradient and a polished blue bezel. Beautiful. Actually, really beautiful watch. This is not something I'd normally go for, but the way they've rendered this is very cool. It sort of gives like a bit of a polar vibe. W
Andrew hat's that crystal that you crack into that that that looks like a rock on the outside and you
Everett like a cracked? Yeah.
Andrew Yeah, it's got a bit of kinda kinda has that geode not n like there's no symmetry to any of this pattern. It's all very random but all consistent.
Everett So if you don't know Adele is a s
Andrew ort of uh
Everett sort of a pared down Grand Seiko 9-L movement, uh, slightly less well-finished, slightly less
Andrew well-timed, um
Everett , but still pretty good. Minus five plus ten seconds per day. Uh we've got all sort
Andrew s of saco propriet
Everett ary metals in there. Um and these are 3600 for the standard black, 3900 for the jam stack. Uh,
Andrew you get the upgraded move, uh,
Everett upgraded clasp on this, which is fant
Andrew astic. Um,
Everett yeah, I I I'm okay with this release. The SLA 079, I think you can still get it for about three grand or just a little bit less than that. Uh this is better it in just about every single way. Uh for $700 more. This feels to me like a good evolution for this watch
Andrew . Yes, this is a good iteration on the Marine Master that we've seen them kind of playing with for the last seven years.
Everett Yeah. Uh
Andrew and and it it seems like they finally narrowed it down. They they've gotten focused on where they want that marine master line to go. Yeah. And they're following that path. Uh and each iteration that we're seeing now, because we saw one last year that was good. This is good and improved. And every time what I what I hope we don't see is that these improvements also keep pushing it further and further upmarket to like in two years the Marine Master is gonna be sitting at $7500 and we're like, well, you know, they've done this and well
Everett and of course this isn't when I think of a Marine Master, I think of the monoblock cases. Um this is a little slightly different than that. But I I think they've done a good job with this. I I uh I don't mind the price given what
Andrew you're getting, I I I like this
Everett a lot better than I like that van eck
Andrew . Agreed. I
Everett think that this is a really inter
Andrew esting dive watch. Uh just
Everett to talk about dimensions, it is a 42 and a half
Andrew millimeter watch, 14.
Everett 1 thick, which is uh
Andrew , you know, what you would expect, I think, for this watch. Uh, especially given the that it's got that 8045 movement in it, which is again a six millim
Everett eter movement, just the movement. Uh so yeah, these are going to be available in July. Uh with the with the jam stick version being limited
Andrew to a thousand pieces. All right. So citizen. The new photon celebrating 50 years of EcoDrive technology. And I've said it here before, and I think I'll say it again. I think EcoDrive is like one of the coolest movements ever created. Um like it the technology to be able to harness solar power in a watch and run a quartz movement is pretty phenomenal and cool as shit. So we have two versions of the photon that look straight out of nineteen nin95. Maybe 1985. These feel super modern to me. I don't they look like what you would imagine 2026 looks like
Everett . But I think they nailed it
Andrew . Right? They're they're these uh how many sides are these one two three four five six seven three six eight so octagon
Everett al uh we have
Andrew octagonal cases. There's two colorways.
Everett Octagonal-ish. Ye
Andrew ah, they're octagonally round. They're like familiar, but not kind they're they're citizen is what they are. Right? Citizen always has they they're just a little bit different and and usually it's not for the good. I think these are a little bit different for the good. Two colorways, one in all steel with a black and kind of gradient to blue-purple center dial, heavily textured. Uh and then another DLC black and gold with this is this is the dial that I love, man. It's that same heavily textured, almost like looking through a fan gr
Unknown ate over
Andrew a concentric gold and blue circ
Unknown le dial. And this th
Andrew ing is cool. Uh super titanium case 12 month power reserve on a full charge, plus or minus 15 seconds a month. Uh, so to the size, these are gonna be big, and this is where they citizened it up. These are 39.6 millimeter cases. I think the case shape is gonna make it feel really big.
Everett When they're 9.9 thick, I I'm not sure, Andrew. I
Andrew think these are gonna wear, I think these are gonna we
Everett ar very flat. I hope they
Andrew wear flat. So super titanium in both. A DLC, uh they're calling it amber yellow and black, uh, 50 meters of water resistance, full super titanium bracelets on these. And here's kind of where I was surprised. A thousand bucks for the steel, twelve hundred bucks for the DLC. I was expecting Citizen to go stupid on this and and these be like $2,000-ish dollar watches. They
Everett easily could be. They yeah, they
Andrew could be. Uh they're only making 5,000 pieces of each of the colorways. They're going to be available this fall. This is a killer and under a tho
Everett usand bucks. Or right at a thousand bucks for these
Andrew . Yes, this is a killer anniversary watch. It has all the like kind of postmodern feel, really, really like just reasonable citizen design language in it. And from what I can tell, just looking on the product photos and the spec sheet, there's not a clear miss here. And usually when you are dealing with citizen, there's like that one that one little guy that you just can't ignore. I don't see the the little guy that you shouldn't worry about with this. I think they they knock thised out of the park.
Everett Yeah, I I think these are great. I mean, I think that you're getting
Andrew a really interesting
Everett ly designed watch.
Andrew You know, what uh you were
Everett explaining the dial and uh the the entire time I was thinking he's not doing it justice, but I couldn't figure out how to impro
Andrew ve on that. Uh it it it's really interest
Everett ing. It's this dual layered dial
Andrew it like sort of radiator anyway it y you just gotta look at it I think this
Everett this feels to me like it's got some M
Andrew oser vibe with that bracelet. Um it kinda has it But witho
Everett ut being like annoyingly Yeah
Andrew derivative, I really, really like this. I I think it's terrific. I it it wouldn't be it wouldn't be uh an episode of forty and twenty if we didn't criticize it. The crown is too small. Yeah. Uh but that's not that little guy that you would need to worry about.
Everett Crown is too small, but yeah. I mean when are you ever gonna use the crown in it on it anyway?
Andrew So not never. You will set it one time, and as long as it gets a little bit of light over the course of a year, it's going to keep running. And
Everett I love that they've got all these proprietary coatings too. You know, this this it's their proprietary titanium alloy, it's their proprietary DuraTec titanium coatings. Um I just I think this is a really cool watch.
Andrew And for those of you who haven't bought EcoDrive in a while. I have the so the the they are continuing to iterate and improve upon EcoDrive technology. Uh I have a 2016 EcoDrive and a 2023 EcoDrive. The 2016 does not really catch charge when not in a window. So if I want to keep it running, I have to leave it in the windowsill, which is fine. I have a window near like I have a window in my room I don't live in a closet and it just sits in that windowsill. The newer EcoDrive which I fucking dropped the other day cracked the crystal and I'm not sure if it compromised the water resistance. And I cut the shit out of my finger with it. I like you know you drop a watch, you run your finger around the crystal, like ah, what have I done? And that shard of crystal that cracked free embedded itself in me. I had to dig it out. Um but that will charge in just the ambient light
Unknown in a room. Uh and this is this article is saying that. Well, this is
Unknown their newest that you are the new
Andrew est is now saying that like even ar
Unknown tificial light is gonna give it enough to juice it. Um
Unknown these things are super efficient,
Unknown and and and on a full charge, it's gonna run
Andrew a year. So if you wear this watch once
Unknown a year out of doors during the day, you're gonna recharge it to full capacity. Uh I I stand by, I think
Andrew EcoDrive's just one of the cool
Unknown est movement technologies on the planet. And I think citizens
Andrew efforts behind it are maybe
Unknown misplaced. I think they should just use EcoDrive rather than push EcoDrive
Andrew . Yeah. Like Grand Seiko, it's just a spring drive. Like it that's our movement. I think if if citiz
Unknown en used that and then focused more on their design of housing, the Eco Drive, rather than be like,, it it's's E Ecoco Drive D,rive it's Eco Drive. I think they'd find a
Andrew lot more success. Ye
Everett ah, I don't know. Uh I mean they could
Andrew stop doing weird shit and pushing it as e
Unknown co drive and just like do really cool shit.
Unknown I mean, this is weird too, though. This is this is
Unknown n't I don't know. This fucking
Everett weird gives me kinda like rotto-e vi
Unknown bes too. Yeah. I I really like both of these. I immediat
Unknown ely thought Moser when I saw it. U
Unknown h I I really like both these. This this black and gold uh the two
Unknown tone. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. Ye
Unknown ah, that little splash of blue in the dial that it like you can't quite see where the blue is coming from, but it's there. Super good.
Everett Squale. Ooh hoo.
Andrew We said it right. Squale. We did
Everett say it right. Squale
Andrew . S
Everett quale uh introduced a handful of years ago its sub-39 platform, which they've now sort of pushed as sort of their fl
Andrew agship. Uh as an
Everett evolution of that That they have released this week the sub
Unknown 37 legend
Everett . And uh I I read about this watch and I was very, very interested. And I got less interested, but I decided to talk about it anyway because I think Squale is a really intri
Unknown guing brand. Obviously, a very ol
Everett d company, a company that's made mid-cases for a very long time for some big heav
Unknown y hitters. Uh, this is
Everett a company that really has a lot of history and I think is sort of figuring out maybe
Unknown slowly how to be a brand in the 2
Everett 1st century. Um, but they're doing it. And they've released a new watch that I find pretty intriguing, which is to say a 37 millimeter dive watch that is not
Unknown a sub homage or whatever when I think of squale. That was certainly my first impression of squale was we make submariners. Um
Andrew because they have
Everett and they do. And they do, but
Unknown the like I I I think they're one of the brands that can and perhaps should.
Everett Yeah, it does feel that way. Um it does feel that way. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm with you.
Unknown This is this is
Everett actually just a really
Unknown cool
Everett 37 millimeter sort of classic feeling
Unknown dive watch. Uh, really sort of obviously based on 1960s dive watches.
Everett Um, we do have some old radium loom
Andrew , which gives it a dec
Everett idedly phoetina look. In
Unknown addition to that, we've got sort of amber letters on the
Everett bezel that's underneath a glass
Unknown , you know, giving it sort of a bakelite impression. Um
Unknown erals. Yeah. Okay
Unknown . Sort of glass box crystal.
Everett Um 300 met
Unknown ers of water resistance, dou
Everett ble squale log
Unknown os on the dial, which is a lot. This has got a lot, it's a very small dial, and it's got a lot on it
Unknown . But it but it's not a lot because it's the same thing a couple times.
Everett Yeah, that's right. I think you only need one
Unknown logo. Not four.
Andrew Yeah, it's so I was reading a little bit about this
Everett . So they've got their standard word
Unknown mark, the squale word mark,
Everett but then they've got their shark, their
Unknown squale shark, and that's what that is. Squale shark is a
Everett logo that they used in particul
Unknown ar back in the 60s and 70s for
Everett their mid-case manufacture
Unknown . And so I think that they've included this to represent that they're making their own watches. Um so there's a historical thing here
Everett . This comes on a bonnet bonetto
Unknown strap, which is sort of the cream of the crop Italian vulcanized rubber. It's it's flared around the lugs. It's this is a really classic bonetto strap.
Everett Um this is where I
Unknown kind of take a little pause. These are
Everett priced at $17.5
Unknown 0. With an S
Unknown W two hundred. With an SW
Everett two hundred, that's right. Um hm
Unknown . I
Andrew I mean, I know it costs what it
Unknown costs, right? And and Squale typically, when we look at their watches, the price makes sense
Everett . Does this make sense
Unknown ? This one this one doesn't th this one I'm I'm
Andrew wondering if the pricing is refle
Unknown ctive of geopolitical things right now
Andrew . This feels to me like a
Everett thousand dollar watch all day.
Unknown A twelve hundred dollar watch.
Everett Yeah. I think sub fifteen hundred
Andrew seventeen fifty? I'm like, who
Unknown a. Yeah. S
Andrew quale. Who the f what
Unknown ? I I think we are I I think this is a function of um our globalized economies right now less so than it is the watch.
Unknown I was pretty taken aback.
Andrew I think it's probably 30%
Unknown higher to absorb some stuff
Everett . Yeah. But everyt
Andrew hing else I love. Really?
Unknown The Sapphire bezel
Andrew insert it refle
Unknown cts that amber in the bezel in a really, really satisfying way that just warms up. Like
Andrew I would have never thought that I would describe black dial, black bezel as warm. And this is just a really warm soft
Unknown color palette for this wat
Andrew ch that is really pleasing. Uh the the shark logo and the the 12 that I'm glad you said that was a shark because that's not what I thought that it was.
Unknown What'd you think it was? This is not
Andrew appropriate. This is a this is a family show.
Everett Okay. That
Andrew 's right where I went. What's ne
Everett xt? I you know, I think when we look at
Andrew our time, we're at 55 minut
Everett es. You know what? Not
Andrew hing else really has me that excited.
Everett There's nothing else on your list that has me excited either. So
Andrew shocker. Uh and we exhausted your list after our first one.
Everett Not true. Uh I guess that's a good enough time to call it. Andrew, other things, what do you got?
Andrew Oh, I didn't prepare another thing. Yes
Everett , you did. I always prepare another thing
Andrew . Um you liar.
Unknown So I I talked about having an air f
Andrew ryer I don't know year or two ago when I
Unknown got one. Uh and I've been
Andrew I use it pretty regularly. I have a new favorite thing for the air fryer. Like three months ago, I was at the grocery store and I was I have this stupid thing where I have to walk through every aisle of the grocery store when I go. I can't just go get a thing. Um which sucks, especially if you're in a hurry. You can shake your head all you want. I just can't. I can't not walk through an aisle. Even if I know I don't need anything in that aisle. I didn't look. I just walked through it. I'm in the frozen food section, in the patatas with the potatoes because I needed french fries. And I'm walking, walking towards my French fries. I know where they are. And I stopped 'cause there was somebody obstructing the aisle and I look over and
Unknown I can't believe this
Andrew was news to me. I
Unknown saw sleeves of
Andrew hash brown patties. Like pre-pattied up, ready to go, whole sleeve of them. And I was like, oh, that would be really
Unknown nice for breakfasts.
Andrew So and and for those of you who have young kids, for some reason public school starts so fu
Unknown cking early
Andrew . So it's like wake up, mad dash, feed, pack
Unknown , scramble out the door.
Andrew I don't know if you don't have that experience anymore. The school that you take your k
Everett ids to is two minutes away. Serves
Andrew breakfast. They do, but they they don't
Unknown they don't like it. Okay, well
Unknown I told my kids, fuck off. You're eating it
Unknown . Anyway, we have to make our kids breakf
Andrew ast in the morning. I got these hash brown patties ten minutes in the air fryer, and they are s they are McDonald's quality hash browns. Love them. They are fantastic. They when you I looked at the ingredients because I was like, there's gotta be something in these. They're pre-salted, they're pre-oiled. So you just throw those things in the air fryer. They like as they melt, they crisp up like the as the
Unknown ice melts because they come right out of the freezer.
Andrew 10 minutes in the air fryer at 400 degre
Unknown es. They come out magically cris
Andrew py on an English muffin with a fried egg. Oh my gosh, I cannot believe that I am just now becoming aware of pre
Unknown -made hash brown patties. That's my other thing. Uh, if you
Andrew have an air fryer and you're not doing this, uh welcome to the next phase of your life.
Unknown Yeah, it's great. They're amaz
Andrew ing. I do love air fryer hat
Unknown ch front patties. I don'
Unknown t I we're kind
Andrew of an ingredient house, so like we don't have a lot of stuff like that, but man
Everett . Yeah, no, it's perfect. Ye
Unknown ah, it's one of my favorite things. Yeah. Well
Everett , I'm glad that you're I'm glad that you're en
Andrew joying that. I love it. So hash brown pat
Unknown ties. Next time you walk through the freezer aisle on your way to get uh Arby's curly fri
Andrew es or seasoned potato wedges
Unknown , grab you a sleeve of hash brown patties because they are the truth
Everett . A couple different things on my
Unknown list that could have been other things this week, but ultimately, there was really just one thing it could be. Um because
Everett I bought a new multi-tool this week,
Unknown Andrew. And Oh, I didn't realize that that
Unknown was new. That's why it was stiff.
Everett Um you
Unknown know, you you've known me long enough, Andrew, and perhaps you at home have also known me long enough to know this was not
Unknown 18 years I've known you. Is that
Everett right? Yeah. Man, that
Andrew 's a long time. We we
Unknown could date our relationship now
Everett . Um Yeah. This was not an easy this was not an
Unknown easy purchase for me. W which is not to say I it was particularly hard. In fact, it
Everett 's sort of enjoyable for me to go through this
Unknown process. But um
Everett an interesting thing happened, Andrew, something I did not expect. The last
Unknown time I purchased a multi-tool was in 2008, which was the year I met
Everett you, I guess. Yeah. Uh and I spent a lot of time
Unknown on that purchase. And I at the time spent what I thought was kind of an absurd amount of money. I don't know how much it was. I think probably a hund
Unknown red-ish doll
Andrew ars. Maybe a kid aga
Unknown in where a hundred dollars was
Andrew Yeah, it was a big purchase.
Unknown It was a big purchase. Uh and I b
Andrew ought a Leatherman wave. I bought a Leatherman wave and I really loved that
Unknown tool. Um
Andrew and I and I bought that
Unknown I bought that based on sort of a compilation of reviews. You know, this is sort of olden days, right? There's YouTube was kind of a new thing
Andrew and uh did it hit the for
Unknown ums. That's right. Hitting the
Andrew forums and and ultimately
Unknown decided on the Leather Wave, Leatherman wave. And
Andrew and it was a great tool. And I l
Unknown ost that thing. I l
Everett ost that thing in the des
Unknown ert at Fort Hortwin
Andrew . Um and w which was sad, which was a sad da
Unknown y. I think that was 2016 or
Andrew so. Um, and I
Everett 've just I've just not bought a multi
Unknown -tool again. I don't have a lot of use for a multi-tool, but
Andrew recently I've started I've picked up a couple h
Unknown obbies and I I needed I wanted to have a multi-tool. I didn't nobody needs to, but I thought, you know, this is
Unknown you kinda need to. It's a multi-tool.
Unknown This is really a this is
Andrew really a time I I'm doing
Unknown these things where I I really would like to have a multi-tool. So
Andrew I doing what I
Unknown do went back. I hit the forums. I hit YouTube. I hit reviews and articles.
Andrew And an interesting thing happened, Andre
Unknown w. You did it again. I landed
Everett on the same tool. Britney gotcha. I landed on the sam
Unknown e tool. I purchased
Everett not exactly the same tool. I purchased a
Unknown Leatherman Wave Plus. Uh which
Everett is I found I al
Unknown most resisted that because
Everett I thought, you know, 18
Unknown years later, this c
Everett annot still be
Unknown the best option for
Everett me. And at the end of the day, I decid
Unknown ed, you know, it was. Now, there are Leat
Everett herman makes higher end tools than this. They make
Unknown their arc, which is sort of their B's knees, Magna Cut tool. They do have a newer version of the wave that has G10 grips and a magna cut blade, but but
Unknown then you're moving out of like a handheld multi-tool and into like a a a power tool sized thing.
Everett Well, similar, similar sizes. Um, I also tried other manufact
Unknown urers. I held other manufacturers, particularly SOG and Gerber, both sell some really interesting did not like the form factor.
Andrew Because multi-tools have kind of gone out of fas
Unknown hion in the last five to ten
Andrew years. Ultimately I just boug
Everett ht the same fucking tool. Couple differences, right? This is the
Unknown plus. So it's got um replaceable screwdrivers, it's got
Everett compatibility with Leatherman's bit set, not incl
Andrew uded. Um but I could
Unknown that's a really cool functionality. Their little
Andrew bit driver set is really great. It's propri
Unknown etary it's a proprietary hex, um w which
Everett is annoying. A little annoy
Unknown ing, but but also I understand why they do it.
Unknown You have to build an ecosystem, yeah. Uh
Everett the other difference is this I got the oxide
Unknown version this time. My my prior version was sta
Everett inless and and he's still lost
Andrew in the desert. You couldn't just shine a light at night. I know
Everett . I went with the oxide version and I'm glad I did. This is a
Andrew very rugged fe
Everett eling tool. And as soon as it got into my hands, I was like, you know what? I just love this thing. Um, I've been just playing with it, I've just been carrying it around and playing with it.
Unknown You gotta break that thing in, it's really stiff.
Unknown It is stiff. The black oxide, leatherman's black oxide is notoriously stiff, and this is no different.
Everett So I'm going to play with this thing and and love it and use it. You know, m
Unknown ade in the USA. Oh that was one of my that
Everett was one of my big uh
Unknown one of the big benefits. I I really love that
Andrew this is made in the USA. N
Unknown ot that I'm like Merica USA USA, but I do like that they're supporting and doing local manufacturing.
Everett That was one of my big things was
Unknown made in the USA. It's super affordable. The the multi-tool game is weird right now. You know, everything's a hundred bucks.
Andrew Mm-hmm. You know, really like 80 to
Unknown 100 bucks. This is in there. 120, you can pay a lot more than this for a multi-tool in 2026. So um,
Everett yeah, that's my other thing for the week. Leather
Unknown man Wave Plus is
Everett my new multi-tool, which is the same mul
Unknown ti-tool that I chose 18 years ago, I just thought that was the we
Everett irdest thing. It's kind of a surprise for me, I f
Unknown elt like. What are the od
Everett ds? But the multi-tool
Unknown game is kinda
Andrew cornered, right? Everyone makes a multi-tool. But not everyone makes a good multi-tool. Gerber
Unknown , Sog, Leatherman are the only brand big Tor
Unknown inox.
Andrew Yeah. I know they make them.
Unknown I put them in I I don't class them the same.
Unknown Sure. Fair enough. Uh because
Unknown everyone makes a multi-tool.
Andrew Like but th
Unknown ose three brands kind of have the corner. Like,
Andrew I wouldn't put Columbia River Knife and Tool
Unknown even in the category, and I know they make multi-tools. Uh Gerber, Sog, Leatherman, those are the people that do it. And the reason that people don't c
Andrew all them multi-tools are like, hey, let me see your Leatherman
Unknown . Yeah. Is because Leather
Andrew man does it
Unknown maybe the best. And I
Andrew think you just have to find the one that you like the best. Like I
Unknown have I have a Leatherman multi-tool that I'm I'm okay with, but my two preferred multi-tools are not Leatherman made. There's there's they're sock and Gerber.
Everett This said this just, I think, the ex
Unknown act right tool setup for me
Everett . This doesn't have really anything that I did
Unknown n't want. You know, you know, every other tool I looked at, it had things I didn't want.
Everett Um, this has two blades
Unknown . Uh we've got a serrated blade and just a flat blade.
Andrew Yeah, just a drop point. Uh it
Everett 's got a saw
Unknown , which is a pretty effective saw
Everett , and it's got a file,
Unknown a double-sided file. I thought, you know
Everett , I like all of those. Those are all use
Unknown ful. Inside, it's got the back
Unknown and the the back of the file's for strike and flint, isn't it
Andrew ? I you know, I don't know, Andrew. That
Unknown that wouldn't surprise me. I think that's why it'
Unknown s so gnarled. Obviously, p
Unknown liers. We've got a screwdriver with that aforementioned proprietary hex set. So right now it's got both a flat head and a Phillips head
Everett , uh, and then a can opener,
Unknown bottle opener, and then the other s
Everett ide has scissors. Who doesn't want
Unknown scissors? A micro screwdriver, flat and phillips
Everett , and then a pair of scissors.
Unknown Oh, would I just said scissors? And then a big, a big flathead screwdriver. Uh aka pry bar. Uh I was like, yeah, I like
Everett this doesn't have anything I don't want. Every
Unknown other tool I looked at, I was like, I don't even really know what that is
Everett . That tool, I don't even really know
Unknown what it does. This does not have anything like that. I was like
Everett , this is the best multi-tool. It
Andrew it's up there me for at least.
Unknown Certainly up there. For me at least. So yeah
Everett , 18 years later, I went with the same thing I bought
Unknown 18 years ago and I don't feel bad about it at all. In fact, I got it and I was like, really glad I have this back
Unknown . Look at you. Replaceable
Unknown wire cutters on the pliers, lifetime warrantied. Break something, send it in, they'll fix it
Unknown . Look at that. Andrew
Unknown , anything you want to add before we move it along for the day
Andrew ? Let's do it. Hey folks, thanks for
Unknown joining us for this episode of 40 and 20 The WatchClicker Podcast. Do
Everett me a favor, go to our website, watchclicker.com.
Unknown That's where we post articles and reviews and pictures.
Everett If you want to follow us on social media, you can do
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Everett on the website or things we're doing here on the podc
Unknown ast. I youf want to support the watch clicker pod
Andrew project, you can do that at pat
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