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The Best Chronograph of the Year(?) (371)

Published on Mon, 08 Dec 2025 22:36:19 -0800

Synopsis

In this episode of the Forty and Twenty WatchClicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss recent watch releases and personal updates. Everett shares his excitement about a courtroom victory, while Andrew talks about the busy holiday season with his family traveling to Portland frequently. They dive into various new watch releases including the Christopher Ward and Studio Underdog Alliance O2 Pocket Watch collaboration, the Doxa and Topper Watches Great White GMT, and several Aviate releases.

The hosts examine Baltic's new stone dial collection featuring unusual materials like Petersite and Dumortierite, debate the merits of Nomos's new limited edition Club Sport Neomatic World Timer models, and discuss Eska's surprisingly affordable Racing Chronograph at just $485. They also cover higher-end pieces like the Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Classic limited edition and an unusual Rado collaboration with designer Tae Chow. Throughout the episode, they debate design philosophy, pricing strategies, and the balance between vintage inspiration and modern functionality in contemporary watchmaking.

The episode concludes with "Other Things" where Andrew recommends Cosmos Q's Honey Killer Bee dry rub featuring granulated honey powder, and Everett enthusiastically shares his discovery of Rum Fire, a Jamaican white overproof rum with high ester content that surprised him with its quality despite initial skepticism about the packaging.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to Forty and Twenty The WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you
Everett ? I'm good
Andrew . I'm good. I had a uh
Everett had a judicial victory today, uh uh occupational victory. I crushed it.
Andrew You weren't disbarred? No,
Everett quite the opposite. They double
Andrew barred you? I was celebrated
Everett by all the members of the bar. That's not true. But I did have a victory at court today, and that was nice. That was nice. I'll tell you, man, when you like I get juiced, dude. Like I was in my closing arguments, I'd like
Andrew locked everything up
Everett . I knew where I was going and I gave my closing arguments and I was like shaking afterwards just like every single chemical that my body can make, it made, and then just pumped it through my body. Plus a little bit of
Andrew extras that it can metabolize while you're hungry and a little bit exhausted.
Everett I was just like, I was like shaking. And I but it but it was like good. Like I crushed it just like fungo bat gone fifty feet past the fence. It was awesome, man. Yeah. So I
Everett 'm fence. How are you? Uh I'
Andrew m good. I'm you know, we're just we're we're in the middle of the season, so everything is crazy. We we put just the kids stuff on the calendar for December, because we've got one of those big desk calendar like tear aways that we keep on the side of our fridge to try to keep our world organized ish.
Everett Sure. Uh and by the
Andrew time the kids stuff was on there, it was like when do we sleep
Andrew ? Uh yeah, it's
Andrew just wild the amount of stuff that uh that's going on this month and you know with our family being or families being in Portland, there's a lot of trekking up to Portland over the next couple weeks and just really busy. I get it
Everett , dude. It's December every year.
Andrew And the kids never go to school. Yeah.
Everett Is this the last week of school or
Everett is next week? I don't know what da
Andrew y is it. No, it's it's this week and next week. And then then they stop going to school basically until March. Uh
Everett no. And then they have spring break. Such a whiner
Andrew . Yeah, your kids can stay home alone.
Everett Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I got nothing to add. Uh but
Andrew yeah, otherwise otherwise good. Uh starting to feel a little bit better. Can like move around okay. Still sitting's not great, but getting better
Everett . Glad to hear it. Yeah
Andrew . Glad to hear it. I did
Everett um spend all day Saturday going to um various tuba concerts. My daughter is playing in the in the Oregon tuba ensemble, which is I don't know
Andrew . I think the actual ensemb
Everett le is only about twenty, maybe thirty, tubas and euphoniums. Euphonia
Andrew ? I don't know how to pluralize a word like that
Everett . Um low brass, it's all low brass. Um but then also like they've got a bigger group, which is maybe a hundred people. Uh with
Andrew a combined age of 10,000.
Andrew You know. So
Everett that group, the the tube ensemble is I would still a very old group, but they've got more sort of I think there are four middle school kids, middle school and or high school kids, and then there are a another five or six college kids. So but she's also in the Junction City polka band. And the Junction City Pokeband has Betty, who's 14, uh, the director, who is probably 40, and then the next youngest guy is retirement age for sure. Yeah, so twelve people
Andrew . Real big spread there.
Everett Average age over seventy for sure. Yeah. That
Andrew makes sense. Yeah. That's right. The
Everett y're they're a kick in the pants, but they're all very, very old.
Andrew What are the pictures you sent of the woman in the wheelchair playing?
Everett Yep. Like j
Andrew just in in the in the spectacle of this this group of brass instruments and was like, yep, that tracks
Everett . Yep. Yep. Uh that's
Everett Meg. And she's terri
Everett fic. And she believe it. Meg plays Meg plays the um I think her primary instrument is the clarinet, but she also plays a mean uh accordion
Andrew . I have a coworker who plays the accordion uh and he taught himself Russian so he could play the accordion and sing songs in Russian. That
Everett 's terrific. It's a real weird
Andrew side hobby
Everett . We're here to talk about watches. What are we doing? What are we doing? We're here to talk about watches, and watches we will talk about we'll get the Andre
Everett w Andrew I was thinking this week uh
Everett maybe you could go first. Oh
Andrew thank you. I appreciate you ceding the opportunity. Uh I talk about something crazy. Christopher W
Everett ard and Stupid Okay. Stud
Andrew io Underdog. The Alliance O2 Pocket Watch. And I I saw this and I wanted to not like it because it's weird but it's awesome. You're making a weird face and I don't accept. Uh it is crazy. So Christopher Ward light catcher case, sapphire, it's the uh the the O two uh dial set from Studio Underdog. This
Everett is a bizarre
Andrew collaboration. The lug on this is cool. Everything about it, I super like. They're only making a hundred of them, uh, which is reasonable because I think that this is a very uh a very narrow window of people who would be buying this. Uh 44mm case, sapphire front and back, sapphire dial. It's a CW one or the CW001 in housed manually wound movement. Three thousand British pounds. I think
Everett this is cool. You should buy one.
Andrew I I probably won't. Uh, there's a lot of things I'd buy before this
Everett . Definitely won't because you don't want it because it's dumb. It but it isn't. St
Andrew udio Underdog's doing such fun collaborations with brands that you wouldn't expect it. I if you were to you know six months ago, if you were to say, who is Studio Underdog gonna do an interesting collaboration with that will shock the watch world. Fears wouldn't be in your top ten. Fears wouldn't have been in your top twenty.
Everett Why not? They're British.
Andrew I do think that this
Andrew is fun. This is of course fun
Everett . There's no doubt about that. But yeah
Everett , but it's really odd. I mean, the fierce collaboration is
Everett super obvious. I n I never would have guess
Andrew ed it. Cause they don't they don't I I never would have thought they'd have worked. Christopher Ward is a closer is a brand that I could see working better. And has worked really well. I I think this would be a cool in like the the C36
Everett . I I honestly don't hate it. It but I mean it's stupid, but I don't hate it. It's it's fun. It looks the case is beautiful.
Andrew Not untru
Andrew e. Um let's see
Everett . I'm gonna try to find the watches on your list that I think you're most excited to talk about
Andrew . You did that one twice,
Everett so you must be really excited to talk about. I sent
Andrew one twice. That means I missed one
Everett . Um how about the uh how about the Doxa and Topper Watches 250T sub 250T GMT Great White the second Great White collab release, but in this time instead of sub 300 we get
Everett 250 T GMT and uhh and I like it. I like it. This is the same uh this is the same basic layout, but this time we've got
Everett a case back that shows the treasure, a treasure map of uh let's see. The map shows the San Francisco Bay and highlights the Gulf of
Everett the Farons
Andrew ? It's Farallon
Everett is. With the topper podcast logo placed cleverly over the store's location in Berling.
Everett And this was designed
Everett by John Kaplan Wesley Smith of Standard H, which okay. I I
Everett I maybe didn't understand
Everett , maybe I don't understand the con standard H connection here, but I really like this case pack. This is a gorgeous watch. The topper. It's like
Andrew so icy white, it's blue
Everett . It's a beautiful watch. The watch is ridiculously good looking
Andrew . Yeah. Very much like Zoolander
Everett . Um, it's a 250G, uh 250T GMT, which means that it's a
Everett 40mm watch with a 43mm lug to lug. Dux always has a great lug to lug. We've got 250 uh meters of water resistance because it's 250 t. Uh obviously we have a GMT function uh with you know a Swiss GMT. Um
Everett and they're making a hundred pieces and they're twenty nine ninety, two thousand nine hundred ninety US US dollars
Andrew . They're going fast. And
Everett are they still available? I'm sure they're
Andrew not. I think that they mig
Everett ht be gonzo.
Andrew I like in this collaboration you get a day-night ring on your chapter ring.
Everett I think this comes with a hat too
Andrew . Ooh. That's now
Everett I gotta get one. Now the
Andrew deal is too good to pass up now.
Everett Uh pre-order now. It looks like
Everett oh no. This item is currently unavailable. Join the wait list. So they are they're g
Everett one. Well, but it's a $500
Everett deposit. So might be
Everett this might be one of the rare occasions where it's worth a wait
Everett list. Um or
Everett if you know Blaineane. Just
Everett call him up and say, I need you to arm wrestle someone down at topper
Andrew . Yeah. And
Everett rew, what's next for you? Kind sir. Ah
Andrew Uh, I gotta say, uh, over the last week there has been not a lot of things that got me excited. But certainly a lot of interesting things. Uh, one of the interesting things that got released is the aviate Flyboy Eagle Squadron. And it it's not a it it wasn't that recent, but we're we didn't talk about this yet. Um the Aviate Flyboy Eagle Squadron Automatic Bronze 85th Limited Edition. And this Aviate is kind of following in the footsteps of the last Aviate that we saw. With very it's not as subtle, right? It's still got some aviate, like some core aviate design language on the dial, but it's all very subtle. A so let's get to the spec sheet on this. This is a 39 millimeter case, 47 lug to lug. It's 15 thick, which is a
Everett hard that's a that's
Andrew a hard one to
Everett to reconcile. Mi
Andrew oda 8215 movement 50 meters of water resistance. They are coming in Where are we? A fume black, green, or blue options. They're gonna make a hundred and seventy five of each of these. The black is really good. And in this, you know, in this case that is full bronze, the black is good. It's this sectory, nice small design, bronze case with a nine o'clock date window and then uh the the flyboys logo at the three o'clock to balance it. I I think this might be my second favorite ABA watch
Everett . Yeah, I I was I was fine.
Andrew Until you saw 15 millimeters thick. I don't know why it has to like why that. It doesn
Everett 't, it doesn't have to be. It's a decision that was made
Andrew . It's big bitch. It's a b
Everett ad decision. It
Everett was a bad decision. Yeah. But a fun
Andrew 85th anniversary edition. That's very it it there maybe it's showing that they're kind of eskewing their uh over designed, overprinted, over like overdoing of their dials with a couple subtle dial releases in sequence.
Everett Yeah, I like the case on this. It's a round case. The dial is fine. I like the dial. I like the logo. Um, it
Everett 's got some weird stuff. This is a busy dial
Everett , but it's not busy in the way that Aviate often does busy. It's busy in more of a
Everett uh I
Everett I like this. I like the dial colors. I like the
Everett case colors. I just don't understand. A 15? I was like, why
Andrew I don't see that why the
Everett what? Why I don't I don't under
Andrew stand where the thickness comes from. Well, but at
Everett least it's you know about 500 meters of
Everett water resistance, right? Nope. Not even fucking close.
Everett I was like, what are we doing here? This isn't doesn't make any fucking sense
Andrew . Yeah
Everett . Yeah. Okay. Uh Mark Cho of the Armory has started a new watch br Brandand. Mark Cho is sort of a famous menswear dude uh and
Everett has actually been invol
Everett ved with watches over the year collaborating with Moser and Unimatic and then Paul and I think last year. So he's kind of like in the space, but he um has started a watch brand. The watch brand's called Temporal Works. It's co-founded with the Armory's creative director Elliot Hammer. Um and they came out swinging
Andrew . Yeah, they did. They came out swing
Everett ing. So their first watch, uh, Temporal Works first watch is uh oh boy. I just had a ser
Andrew ies A. It is called the series A.
Everett Uh and it is a mono block, I'm gonna say field case that they say is supposed to evoke like mid-s evoke mid-century uh design. I don't really see that uhh but I like it
Andrew . I don't see it really either.
Everett I like it. Kind of in the sectary di
Andrew al, maybe. Yeah, so we've
Everett got three dials here. We've got a blue sort of quarter roulette, we've got a black quarter roulette, like a black and gray, and then a red, like this beautiful crimson uh red, which is uh absolutely gorgeous. They call it the fortune dial dial with a glossy red lacquer and no markings at all. Um and really you get very different appeals with these two different uh with these two different dials. They just really look very, very different. Um and then you've got like just a brilliant case that is. I just I'm struggling a little bit with my uh navigation here. You've got a brilliant case that is 37
Everett . Why can I not find my dimensions,
Everett Andrew? Uh, cause this is written kind
Andrew of a little weird. Um
Everett okay. I am going to I'm going to um pull up this other link because I know there's dimensions here.
Andrew Thirty-seven millimeter case uh
Everett by tenthic. Yep. By tenthic um forty-five millimeter lug lug to. The one thing I wasn't crazy about 19 millimeter lugs, but whatever.
Andrew I don't think you're gonna want to take it off this mesh. The mesh with a butterfly clasp is it looks
Everett phenomenal. So if you pre-order one of these today, you get this with the leather and also a uh custom stibe mesh bracelet, a German stibe mesh bracelet. It's it's it's got a uh custom um link set at the at the clasp. Stibe's got an interesting uh micro adjustment system um but it's a signed clasp by stibe if you order it now you get that with the watch it if you wait you pay 250 for the stibe uh which is a great value. That's how much stabs cost. Um, and this thing is just killer. We've got uh Salita SW210-1B, which is an 18 joule twenty eight eight uh vibrations per hour movement, forty two hour power reserve. It's a great movement. Um and
Everett they're and they're cheap, man. Wow, o
Everett kay. These are not cheap. But it's twenty five hundred bucks for for this watch
Andrew . Yeah. Which I think is
Everett really, really, really good. Um, great case back design, just tip to tail. Um, great handset. Gre
Everett at Zeratsu polish. Zer
Everett atsu polish throughout. Yeah, that's that's the one thing I didn't mention. Good sized crown, and the crown kind of sits up next to the case and really hugs it well. This is a really, really, really cool watch. It
Andrew almost looks like there's a tiny
Everett tiny
Andrew like depression for that crown to sit into. Really subtle. In
Everett terms of debut watches, I think that this is one of the best I've seen from any brand ever. The only thing that I can criticize about this watch is a 50-meter water resistance figure. And even then, I'm sort of like
Andrew for something like this, you you feel like they should be able to eke out a hundred.
Everett I would have loved a hundred here. Yeah. Yep. I would have loved a hundred
Andrew . Yeah. But with fifty. Because this is a s this is a sport dress watch.
Everett Oh yeah. No, this is a sport watch. This isn't even a sport dress watch. It's just a sport watch.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. Uh uh with that
Everett said, I I think they just absolutely hit the hit the ball out of the park on this. Um even the on the the pin buckle on the leather is one of the best pin buckles you're gonna find on a watch of this price. I
Andrew can't find good profile pictures of this case.
Everett They don't have very many of them
Everett . It almost looks kind of like
Andrew tonne-y. It is tonne-y
Everett , yep. Uh but then from
Andrew the from the bottom up, it doesn't look that way. This is interesting.
Everett Yeah, and I and just to clarify, I did say earlier mono block case, uh, which is just to say the top, the case is is a one piece without seam, it is a screw screwed out case back, by the way. So I just want to make sure that that'
Andrew s clear up any confusion there. Worth mentioning. there are f few debut watches that uh that land like this.
Everett Yeah, they I mean they crushed it, I think. This is this is a just a gorgeous watch. It it's the type of watch that I'm like, man, do I g
Everett otta get one of these? I wouldn't and
Everett I'll tell you why. I wouldn't. I know enough about the way I like to wear watches that I would ultimately not like that it didn't have a fitted bracelet. With that said, if you're gonna do it this way and say we're not gonna do a bracelet, I think offering a stibe, like having a custom stibe for your watch is about the best you best way you could go. I mean, the only thing I think is better
Andrew than this approach is
Everett is Sereca's approach. Right? Like they're doing a real and and even then it's not better. It's just different
Andrew . I appreciate Sereika
Everett . I really like this too. I think doing a custom a custom style is baller, as you would say
Andrew . Ballin. Ball
Everett in. So you know how I p
Andrew iss and moan all the time about everything generally. Uh but how I whenever you bring up nomos, I'm like uh boring
Everett Yeah, you know, but that's a it's not just you. That's
Everett a pretty po I mean that's a thing, right? There is a there m nomos
Andrew No, because cilantro is the truth or it's like repulsive.
Everett I think that's by
Andrew Gnomos. I think that's what gnomos is. I think
Everett gnomos is either like yes or I don't get it. I
Andrew think gnomos is mashed potatoes and meatloaf. It's delicious, but it's just about as boring as dinner can ever get.
Everett Move it along. No most as boring. This is like the one criticism you can't make about gnomos. Carry on
Andrew . Uh, they just released two limited edition watches that I
Everett dig
Andrew . Club Sport, Neomatic, World Timer, Rome, and Reverie Limited Editions, they are terrific. So it is the pneumatic world timers, right? We we know what these watches look like. These are coming in two different colorways. Uh oh, here we go. Hang on. Champagne with yellow accents is the Reverie, or champagne with blue accents is the Rome. 100 meters of water resistance. They're coming with a whore wing shell quarter van strap. Uh shoot. These are good. These are really good. This is the first time I've looked at an almost I'm like, I want that. Uh the Rome is the one I really like, but also with the yellow ac there. I like them both. I like them both very much. And they're gonna make
Everett is Rome with the blue accents. Yeah
Andrew . Yeah. 175 of each of them
Everett . It's not R
Andrew ome as in the
Everett Italian city. It's Rome as in
Andrew Wander. Yeah, Wander. And and Re
Everett verie. I think Reverie is also like Wander, but maybe daydream? What is Reverie
Andrew ? I don't know. Uh yeah, anyway.
Everett Yeah, the the name the naming conventions on these are a little funny. It's like what?
Andrew Rome and Reverie, huh? Uh Reverie, a state of being pleasantly lost in one's thoughts, a daydream
Everett . Oh. Okay. Okay. So yeah, there you go. Uh yeah, I do like the Rome dial better. I think these have the same base champagne. Is that they
Andrew do, yeah. The the difference is the the color accent.
Everett Yeah.
Everett I do really like show Cordovan. I like Orwin. Um I also really like the bracelet that comes with these, so I I was like, why would you release
Andrew 'cause they're LE's
Everett . Okay. Um sure. Uh they I will say that the uh from a distance both
Andrew of these look
Everett from a distance both of these look pretty subdued. Uh more so with the Reverie than the Rome
Andrew . But when you get up close
Everett on both of them, you're like, oh shit, there is a bunch of color
Andrew . Yeah. Because it's just that
Everett it's just that far right GMT timer that actually or the world timer the or the anyway, whatever, never mind
Andrew . The twenty four hour things.
Everett Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, these are great. I I I I'm with you, And
Andrew rew. These are good these are good Ellies.
Everett I do wish that we I do wish that they would give you a bracelet option
Andrew . Looks like you just have to get two. Sure. Well, they're five thousand bucks. I mean they're no most prices.
Everett Yeah. Fifty two hundred bucks. Yeah. Um I don't know. I I don't have any indication of how prop how popular these will be. You know, with the other with the neomatic releases, they were instantly a hit and many of the colours, the most desirable colours, were just like almost like immediately gone. So I d I don't know how available these will be.
Andrew I mean there's only 175 of each of these. I think they're gonna go quick. Yeah
Everett . Um few months ago, we talked about Ska watches with the Heritage Chronograph, which was the second release from the revived brand Eska, who had been reintroduced to the world after a quartz crisis slumber uh in 2024. They they released the in 2024 the amphibian 250 dive watch, which we only saw, I believe you and I, Andrew both only saw on review after the release of the Heritage Chronograph
Andrew . And we said, well, it was a great release. And
Everett the Heritage Chronograph's not bad either. They are now releasing their third watch. Uh like the previous two. We've got a French assembled a franch assembled watch that feels like a a vintage uh a vintage play
Everett . They're calling this the Esca Rac Racing chronograph
Everett , uh, which is being released as part of the new light collection,
Everett L-I-G-H-T Light Collection
Everett . Uh, and they're describing this as a series that's going to be dedicated to col
Everett or and everyday enjo
Everett yment. I think the idea is to be slightly less serious and slightly more whimsical. The launch is happening to coincide with Lyon's famed Fete de Lumière, uh which I actually don't know what that is. Uh Didn't you like how it sounded like I knew what it was
Andrew ? No, you didn't sound like you knew what it was. Oh
Everett , okay. Um But Ly
Andrew on is apparently the fo
Everett under's hometown. There's a light festival that happens in Lyon, and we've got a case back with the Lyon skyline. And it's actually uh quite beautiful, I would say. It's a gorgeous artistic rendition of the Leon Skyline. Let's talk a little bit about the watch. So
Everett , this is a
Everett SL 4617 automatic chronograph, which is a Liaoning Peacock 7750 clone made in China. It's a 288 VPH uh 45 hour power reserve automatic chronograph. What you see is what you get. Um released on a stitched leather strap
Everett . Uh and these are really sort of clas
Everett sic bicompax chronographs, racing chronographs with sort of a heavy tachyometer scale on the outside that takes up a lot of space. And then small six nine by compacts subdials, a small seconds, or a small seconds on running seconds on the nine o'clock, and a 30-minute timer on the right. Um great pushers, great case, great everything, sort of a italicized bregay numeral motif on the salmon dial and a more um that's a stylized sans serif with baton markers or battens, as I like to say, on a blue dial. Both dials are excellent. Th
Everett ese are really pretty cute. And the best part about this watch is
Everett I don't have a US price on this. Uh, I've got a monochrome mono,chrome listing, but 408 euro
Andrew . Yeah, I uh I thought that had to be a typo. Even though it's a Chinese-made 7750 clone
Everett , I that has to be a typo, but on the web
Andrew site, 485 US dollars uh
Everett for a automatic for a automatic chronograph so so listen i will tell you the thickness, and it's not thin.
Andrew But it's a 7750 clone. It should be 13.5, and it's not. It's sub-13
Everett . Uh 12-8
Andrew , right? It's 128 before a cryst
Everett al. It's got a big double dome crystal, which gets it to fourteen and a half
Andrew . Good. Yeah. That's how that's the size that this movement like you can't get it much thinner
Everett . Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean it's everything
Everett here is great. Drilled lug
Andrew s, like uh
Everett Yeah. Yeah, I mean it kind of buried the lead, I think, a little bit on this, but four hundred and eighty-five bucks.
Andrew I I think this is worth taking a flyer on.
Everett Yeah, I mean it's uh it you know they say on their um on their website uh is that their intent was to propose a an orological complication with an automatic movement at the price of the mechacords
Andrew . And they're doing that pretty close to it. I mean
Everett we I mean this is less than a brew. Yeah, and brew
Andrew is using all VKs. Yeah. Uh I I wonder about the reliability of this movement. It's not a movement I've ever I don't think I've ever se
Everett en used, at least
Andrew that I know of. Obviously it's not brand new and innovative for this watch, but I can't think of a single uh example of its application
Everett . No, I mean we're not seeing a lot of peacock movements get used period and I don't know that I've ever seen this one but um yeah neato
Andrew uh two colors did we talk about that
Everett ? We do kind of a champagne that
Andrew blue is is where it's at. Yeah, blue, blue
Everett , it's got a blue and a salmon dough. Yeah, we've got sort of a uh a vertical grain on the blue and then a matte all over matte salmon. Um yeah, I it's great. This is a a freaking rad watch at a at an incredible price
Andrew . Uh they did spell chronograph wrong at the six o'clock on the um on all the dials. Yeah, chronography was
Everett stupid. Chronograph. Learn English
Andrew . Yeah. Yeah.
Everett Yeah, these things are rad, dude. I
Andrew 'd love to see one in person. I mean I
Everett was kinda like I I'm like going through this
Everett and I'm like all right well okay I'm all right fine fine f
Everett ine how much I yeah
Andrew , I w thought it was a typo. I I went to the website. W
Everett ait, what? To confirm it because it do
Andrew esn't seem real.
Everett You said what
Andrew ? Yeah. You say, huh? Yeah, I don't uh
Everett four hundred and eighty five bucks. H
Andrew ow about that? For an autom
Everett atic chronograph. I mean I I is I never even heard of such a thing
Andrew . No, remember when Baltic and Laurier kind of broke the internet when they dropped them under a thousand?
Everett Yeah. Oh no, that was GMT, so they dropp
Andrew ed them under a thousand. Yeah. And that was pre
Everett - Yeah. This thing's crazy, man. This is I I mean it's really just it it's a very well let me say it seems to be a a decently outfitted, decently designed, if not semi-boring, set of chronographs, bicomplex chronographs, um with a just outrageous price.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah
Everett . Yeah. And there's no shade to call it boring. I mean, we see lots of boring quarters. Yeah.
Andrew I mean it's like a it's a racing 1963
Everett . 75% of the watches that Tag Horrier releases boring chronographs
Andrew . Yeah.
Everett And the other 25% are are we
Andrew ird monacos.
Everett Fucking yeah. Uh Ye yeahah., just it's just to say no shade. This is genuinely no shade there. It's just like whoa. Okay.
Andrew Cool, cool. It's a bean and cheese burrito, man. I love that. Andre
Everett w, what's next? Uh Baltic
Andrew has got some new stone dials into the mix. Uh seems like that's been sort of the soup de jour
Everett . Yeah, stone dials are having a moment
Andrew . Uh what's what's year in what's year in France? If I were to say soup de year has been stone dials
Everett . Stop it. I don't know
Andrew . You've pretended to know French a minute ago
Everett . It's a nameable place
Andrew . So we've got four new colorways. Let me find these. It it so first of all, it's a grade find grade 36mm case., 92 thick, 7.4 without the crystal, grade 5, titanium with a steel bezel, four colors Petercite, Petercite, Pink Albite, Bloodstone, and Dumertiti Dumotor
Andrew ite
Andrew meters of water resistance on these. Uh Leisou Parade D100.
Everett Not what I expected to go
Everett . Alright, carry on. You're wel
Andrew come for that. Uh so the um the Peter site is 14 is is a little bit more expensive because it is uh mind-numbing. This thing is crazy. And this is obvious, these are obviously all stone dials, so they're they're razor thin sliced, polished up, and they are super cool. I think the the I w the Petersite? That's not a stone that like I've I don't fucking know. I'm not a I'm not a geometry. Th
Everett ese were were all all weird. These new to me.
Andrew Uh every single one of them looks one of a kind. So I don't I don't even know like if this stone is like a composite of other stones or or either way, uh these are all really cool releases
Everett . Two or two
Andrew You look at that word and tell me you'd say it some other way
Everett . I will not
Andrew . Uh yeah, these are great
Everett . I mean I I think the prices are fine on these. I I still have a little bit of trouble nailing nail ball ticking my head, which is just to
Andrew say Yeah
Everett . I don't love them. But their watches, I'm always like, yeah, it's pretty fucking cool
Andrew . Yeah, I uh donated the
Everett prize. I don't I don't know where because I
Andrew I have a similar struggle with Baltic and I and I can't place it. I think part of it's their design their their design language. They're in like this really interesting, kind of vintage inspired space that doesn't ever quite scratch the itch for me in in the things that they choose to emphasize in their design language
Everett . Yeah. So is the the Peter side is the one where they're all super different, right
Andrew ? Yeah. Ye
Everett ah. And the bloodstone is the green, the the the like zombie apocalypse one
Andrew i maybe i don't i thought it would be the pink one but it's not because there's a pink albright right
Everett i think i think that's fair. The pink pink albright is probably the pink one.
Andrew And the do more tetrite, I think, is the the blue
Everett . It's weird how you just set it perfectly.
Andrew The bloodstone's cool, this green with red flecking all over it.
Everett It's like a zombie. It's like uh yeah.
Andrew There's another watch that we're gonna talk about that has a similar effect, but it doesn't natur
Everett ally you might talk about it. I'm not talking about it
Andrew . Okay.
Andrew Um I'm gonna talk about Er
Everett ato because it is I've not heard anything about this watch. I actually don't even know how much it cost. Um but I saw it and I was just like, whoa, this is really, really cool. So on December 3rd, which was a few days ago, visitors to the Roto space I don't know what that what that is. I guess Roto has
Andrew a boutique in Miami.
Everett Uh visitors to the Roto space in Miami had an opportunity to meet with um
Andrew Tae Chow, who
Everett is an industrial designer from London. And I've never heard of this fellow and I'm just
Everett gonna say he looks to me
Everett , all the pictures I've seen of him, he looks to me like a designer from from like a uh from like a uh Ben Stiller movie
Andrew . Yeah. Like he just doesn't look like
Everett a real person to me. I I guess he is. I don't know anything about him. I'm sorry. He's worked with Roto in the past before on some cool watches. And apparently he's a very, very talented designer. I don't know. I just I'm seeing these pictures of him and I'm like, this he doesn't look like a real person. He looks like a character from a Ben Stiller movie. Anyway, he makes a banger watch, and this one is a freaking banger, so it is a um polished yellow gold colored PVD colored ceramos Rado. So Rotto calls their whole watches bezels because it's basically like a piece that sits on top of the case. So the whole watch is the bezel. This has their PVD-coated, yellow gold PVD-coated ceramos bezel. Ceramos is a ceramic metal composite that Rotto uses. Um and then this dial. So it's got this dog bowl dial with color and lines
Everett . It's got color and lines.
Everett Right. You're stupid. It's got from nine to twelve this blue. I I don't know what's going on here. It's got different it's a data. It's got
Andrew like a like a countdown timer in the wrong quadrant of a watch.
Everett It's a it's a a day day and and the the day the days are all in different colors. Like Thursdays in pink and uh Mundaism. Mondays and yeah yeah. But it'
Andrew s it's not mun either, it's mo
Everett . Um of course you've got a swinging anchor. I I just saw this and I was like yes
Everett perfect. It's this is great. This is totally freak
Everett ing rad. I I love it. It's got a one off bespoke folding clasp that looks terrific on this like rubber, like silicone-y-looking rubber. Yeah, that's right. A pillow pillow strap. Um, I just saw this and I was like, it's so weird, and also really awesome, really, really awesome. This is I don't know how much these cost because I couldn't find a price and I kind of looked a little bit, um, but I
Everett I just I think I want one. I
Everett I don't know who this guy is. He looks like a weird fake
Everett human. He looks like the guy
Andrew who designs in cap designs for a big box store.
Everett I he looks to me like someone
Everett who carries a chihuahua around, and I don't say that because his name kind of sounds like Chihuahua. He looks like he carries around a small animal with him when he goes out to places. This
Andrew guy carries a ferret for sure. Ma
Everett ybe. Um, or
Andrew his cargo shorts filled with sugar gliders.
Everett Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He definitely. Uh he definitely drinks uh what's the what's the tea that people drink with the weird straws?
Andrew Ayahuasca. Noya
Everett . That's different. Uh that's different. Uh anyway. I
Andrew uh boba tea? No no
Everett with the the the tea with the with the big heavy straws that
Andrew they punch it through the top? No no that'
Everett s no no, no, no. Um anyway, moving on. Everybody at home is yelling at their radio because they know what I'm talking about. Um not everybody, like 40% of the people that I connect with mentally. Anyway, I just love this thing. It's a great watch. I
Andrew I don't see any of what you see in it in the way of like appreciation
Andrew or or or desire. I think that'
Everett s what this this watch is marmite, right? Like this is not a watch. This is not a watch for everybody. But for me, it hits exactly correctly.
Andrew It's super cool. It's interesting. This is a watch I'd love to see in person. I'd like to see the person who buys this watch also uh we're gonna we struggle with Rotto too.
Everett There's a we're gonna put a revolution article. We're gonna put a revolution article in the show notes. We don't know who wrote this article. Revolution
Andrew wrote. And I very rarely
Everett link to them. It might be AI
Andrew . Um, yeah, this it it
Everett it just it like this is all like marketing copy and I hate that. Uh with that said, I just saw this watch and I was like, fuck, I love this watch
Andrew . I had a different experience
Everett . Yeah. Well, and it's funny, they do say w the one the one note here, we're interested in how people respond emotionally to design. Tae Chi-Wan says shape, material, and color aren't just aesthetic choice, they invite interaction. And for me, that that is that is what happened to me when I saw this. I was like, I just really like it. I just really, really like this watch.
Andrew In a in a truly emotional response to it.
Everett Yeah, maybe. Because it's not rational. Uh-u
Andrew h. It's ugly as sin. But I also really like it.
Everett Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. That dog bowl
Andrew dial is really cool. The way that the the dome of that sapphire crystal breaks up the lines, the all those cons all those uh the markers around the entire perimeter of the of the dial. It the way it breaks up even the the logoing at the bottom, it creates this interesting distortion having you know opposing domes. Uh it's it's really cool. And then I
Everett actually don't know that that I think that that
Everett is common. I think that that may be common across diastars, modern diastars. I I I'm l let me actually check. I think we do get that dog bowl dial with some of the modern bath stars. So
Andrew Rhado is not a brand that I uh check up on with any kind
Everett of even in frequen
Andrew cy. It's just not a brand that they're also
Everett weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But uh this one I in particular I was like, holy shit, this is a cool watch. And I and I and I actually don't even hate that you don't like it because
Andrew the It's weirder that you do
Everett . Yeah, well, I think that's this that's
Everett this this this watch is gonna do that to you, right? It's just
Andrew This feels like typically a watch that I would be interested in talking about and you would be making fart noises at me
Everett . Maybe you wouldn't even mute your
Andrew mic to do it. I think
Everett it's great. Yeah. I I really actually I was like okay, cool man. I'm into it. I'm into it. What's next? Uh
Andrew a Awake and soon my the deadly watch. This is a killbill watch
Everett . 2550 by the way on that
Andrew . Oh. On that diastar
Everett .. Carry on It's a it's a k
Andrew ill bill watch. It's this bright vibrant yellow dial with a blood splattering kind of starting at the six o'clock up to the twelve o'clock. The splattering looks great. The case is cool. It is a 39mm case, 45.6 lug to lug, 11.8 thick, 109 without the domed crystal. Sapphire crystal, laisie parade G101, 50 meters of water resistance. They're only making 88 of them. Which they should be making because of the crazy 88s from Kill Bill. Uh and this this is good. This it has a kind of a stepped, like a a stepped and an interesting place case like
Andrew almost kind of SARB
Andrew but less refined like a little bit more tool watch uh stepped case on your lug great polish on the bezel um this is i i mean i know you're not a big fan of it but uh in the way of tribute kind of watches or or maybe even novelty watches. I don't know how you would how you'd go about describing a inspired by a movie watch. Because it's certainly a novelty, but when I think of a novelty watch, I think of some kind of like junky tchotchky. And this is not that. Mm-mm. Uh not not in any regard. Uh
Everett it's cool. It's a fun
Andrew . I'm for whatever reason kill bill watch
Everett . Yeah, for whatever reason. You know, I I didn't love the Jurassic Park watches when they came out and and and for the same reason um for the same reason you know I just was like this is weird. Well they
Andrew they also didn't do a good job with those relative to like th they just made a green one and a red one with with casebacks. Like the the Jurassic Parkness is some claw marks on the dial and then colorways and then your and then your case back design. This is like when I saw this watch without seeing anything about it, I was like, oh that's a killbill watch just immediately. It's so apparent
Everett . Do you feel yeah, okay. Do you feel like this one i well yeah I don't know I don't like it any better. They're sold out so it doesn't matter
Andrew . I I like that you can immediately identify what this is uh aligning itself with
Everett . Yeah. I think that the I think that the um Jurassic Park watches were licensed uh but I don't know that this one is. It must be, right? Because they talk
Andrew . I don't I mean they have to because they have um I mean maybe they don't have
Everett to be. There's there's a very specific k
Andrew ill bill references on the case back.
Everett Sure. Uh which I
Andrew don't know I don't know enough about copyright and IP law to say like you can't quote a movie on a watch without some kind of licensing agreement.
Everett You know, it says taking inspiration. I I do think unlike well, with the Jurassic Park ones, I know they used like logos and stuff, and I don't see that they've done that here. So I wonder I yeah, I wonder. I don't know the answer to that question, but maybe Quentin Tarantino will sue him
Andrew . I don't think he cares anymore. I think after his script got leaked, he was he was done.
Everett Which script got leaked? Uh
Andrew once upon a time in Hollywood got leaked. He almost didn't make the movie.
Everett Oh, is that right? Yeah. Such a good movie.
Andrew It's a killer movie. It's su
Everett ch a good one. Yeah. Um, yeah, this is my last watch for the day, Andrew.
Andrew Okay. So if you have two watches you want to talk about,
Everett we can stack yours, but this is my last one. Um this is the Ja
Andrew eger Le Coultra
Everett Master Control Classic. So when the when Jaeger LeCultra first I know I'm saying that wrong by the way, Luke, go ahead and just save it. I don't care. Um normally I care. Today I don't. Jaeger LeCultra. When they first released the master control collection, it was I think a 34 millimeter watch. This is a watch that they're releasing as an homage to that. I don't know, nineteen ninety two watch uh and it's slightly bigger which is good it's thirty six millimeters which I think is a great size so this is uh I went down the specs on this. I went down the specs on this, and I finished my assessment of this watch with the following. I believe that, but for the fact that this is a limited edition of 500 pieces, uh this is the best, most accessible dress watch under 10 grand. So 36 millimeters stainless steel case, JLC, tip to tail, 8.15 thick, uh beautiful solid steel case back with an homage to the um master control uh theme of their specific uh what do they call it? The thousand hour what do they call the their dang in-house certification, Andrew. Why can't I find it in this stupid article? Um The Thousand Hour control protocol, which is their act in-house accuracy and performance controls
Andrew . I should have said it.
Everett Um I just wanted you to find
Andrew it. It's it's nine grand
Everett . It's $89.50 for this thing, man. It'
Everett s a JLC. And you know what? You might be tempted to think, well, JLC, what are you actually getting? Blah, blah, blah, blah. You're getting, you're getting a watch. This is an in-house caliber eight ninety-nine JLC, which is a constantly updated and developed movement with JLC's in-house controls. You've got the thousand-hour control protocol, um, 70 hour power reserve, high beat, 28800. Uh, and then you look at the case back on this thing, and it's like, oh, this is a terrific watch. Um the watch itself is boring
Andrew . No, it's a dress watch. On purp
Everett ose. Yeah. Right? Great, great proportions, perfect proportions. I will say, for me, the dials may be a little busy, but the handset is terrific. The frame on the date window makes it more sporty than you might prefer for a dress watch. Uh and so that's maybe the one bit of
Andrew I don't I think also this uh this relief is it a bevel or is it a c like a true hollow in those swords on the hands? Uh it's it is it's illumination
Everett . Oh it's loom. It's a loom, yep. It's loom cutout
Andrew . It's a very sporty dress watch.
Everett It's a sport dress watch, for sure. Yeah. In the classic sense. Um I just think this thing is so good. Uh I
Andrew what's I don't think 500 pieces. 50 meters of water resistance.
Andrew Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh.
Everett Yeah, for nine grand, I'm like, sign me up. We're
Andrew you're you're not gonna find anything of this caliber for any l
Everett ess.
Andrew Yeah. And a lot of a lot of stuff when you get to this type of in-house movement, this type of finishing, this type of design, you're paying significantly more.
Everett Yeah, who's the competition? I'll tell you who the competition is. It's Grand Seiko. And you know what
Andrew ? Mm-hmm. Gran Seiko is
Everett almost two times on the Z-axis. Right? Like a Grand Seiko, this Grand Seiko dress watch is 17 millimeters thick. Yes. Right? M
Everett m-hmm. I guess this is fuck like, ye
Everett ah, this is what I want. Yeah. I don
Everett 't want a seventeen millimeter
Everett Zeratsu polished fucking UFO animal
Andrew cover yeah with a di
Everett al that evokes birch
Andrew trees in the winter. Rice in
Everett the autumn sun at the bottom of an alley puddle. Like I or whatever. Right? I want this.
Andrew Yeah. I want this.
Everett I'll take the Zeratsu. But ke
Everett ep your 17 millimeters and g
Everett ive me this. Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, I know it's not 17 millimeters.
Andrew It's not far off. Right?
Everett I mean, this if this was a Grand Seiko
Everett , it would be 13. Ye
Everett ah. Yeah. Maybe 11 and a half if
Everett they were really going for thin. If they were really on a diet eleven.
Andrew Yeah. Right? This is 8.
Everett 16. Yes, thank you. Ye
Andrew ah. Yes, please. Yeah, I'll have I'll have one in seconds, please.
Everett Yes, please. Uh
Everett yeah, it so the comments, so this is a monochrome is a comment. One says an immensely beautiful watch, classic simplicity rendered, perfect, and the next one says such a boring watch. Both true. Yes and yes. 1
Andrew 960s schoolboy style. Al
Everett right, I didn't read that one because that's stupid.
Andrew Uh I'm
Everett this is a yeah, yeah. I I mean Grant this is a Grand Seco competitor and they'
Everett re crushing Grand Seiko. You
Andrew know what's weird? Uh so this article came out six days ago and these comments were posted in Oh no. Cause monochrome day month is switched
Everett . Yeah
Andrew . So it wasn't posted in March. It was posted uh
Everett on the third five days a
Andrew go. Nailed it. I figured things out. I'm smart. Not not fast, but I'll figure it out. I'm
Everett smart. Uh what's next, Andrew
Andrew ? Pull the wall over on me. I closed all the links. I wasn't really excited about anything else to talk about
Everett . Okay. Okay. In that case. Other things? What do you have?
Andrew I have another thing. I and I I
Andrew brought you a little a little bowl
Andrew to taste it in. So
Andrew I told you about this uh I don't know, week or so ago. U
Andrew h being loud. Uh, so my other thing is a dry rub that I have been using a lot of. It is from a company called Cosmos Q. And it's called Honey Killer Bee. So this is a pretty straightforward barbecue dry rub, right? It's got
Everett a pretty pretty familiar
Andrew spice bill. It's got paprika and some garlic, and I'll read it rather than trying to pull it from memory. Paprika, dextrose, garlic, celery, sugar and salt. But here's where it where it turns into the to the honey killer bee. It has uh granulated honey powder. And I've used granulated honey before uh and I really, really prefer it to like brown sugar or white sugar in a dry rub. It just behav
Everett es really differently. And the
Andrew sweetness from honey I find so much more enjoyable than the sweetness from brown or white sugar or or you know other alternatives for sweeteners. Um so I've been using the shit out of this. I've been using this in lieu of sugar in dry rubs that I use and then I've also used it just as a standalone rub on some things, and it is killer. You can get it direct from the website in a shaker, which is uh 13.2 ounces, a one-pound, two pound, or four po-poundund b bagag. Fours, uh 3780 right now. You say 58% is usually 90 bucks. Um shakers 1095. I think at Walmart
Andrew is where I've been picking it up. Walmart's got a really good
Andrew spice selection and like dry rub selection. Um, like 10 bucks
Andrew uh for 13.2 ounces
Andrew and it's I mean you're tasting it right now. I don't hear your thoughts
Everett . It's really good. I want to put it on popcorn
Andrew . That was what I that
Everett was what immediately I was like, I need to get some of that for popcorn
Andrew . Mm-hmm. Like
Everett it's a little salty. It's just a touch salty. So you need to like salt.
Andrew Well, but uh yeah, but as a dry rub you want that because you want it to start sucking moisture out
Everett . Actually I actually
Everett would prefer if they kept the salt out.
Andrew Really? Yeah, let me add my own s
Everett alt. Okay. I can get down
Andrew with that. Uh I like I I I got this because I couldn't find granulated honey at the store. So I was like, eh, this would maybe be close. I still prefer granulated honey. Uh, but this is killer in lieu of like sugar and and then I obviously have to tweak the salt a little bit in in my dry rub mixtures, but that's what I've been using. It's really good.
Everett It's really good. Yeah, that granulated honey
Andrew . That's a new one
Everett for me. It behaves really
Andrew well at dry rubs. It caramelizes nicely, it crusts nicely. It doesn't get cakey like sugar does in a rub
Andrew . Um Um
Andrew which I always I I always find problematic because then your your bark is like can cake or like flake and chip away
Everett and oh man yeah
Everett that's really good. I'm a I'm a fan
Everett . I'm a fan. I'm into it. So that'
Andrew s my other thing. Cosmos Q Dry Rub. And they've got a whole, it's a it's a company, right? So they've got a whole line of dry rubs and rubs and spice mixes and sauces and glazes and all other manner of shit. But um this is one I've tried and I am a believer
Everett . Well, I I'm into it. Uh that is that's crazy. Yeah. Like kind of took me uh up a little it took me off guard a little bit. R
Andrew ight because it tastes like honey
Everett . I've got another thing. Do
Andrew omie. I
Everett shared this with you a couple weeks ago. Maybe a week ago
Everett . I got a
Everett no, this has been two weeks ago
Everett . I got a uh
Everett I've got a liquor store bro. I've got two liquor stores bros at two different liquor stores. They don't know about each other.
Andrew That's smart. You to our girlfriends and wives, maybe they never meet. Uh kinda kinda scenario
Everett . But my I one of my liquor store bros is very, very deep on the spectrum. And if you're not careful, you can get stuck
Andrew . Oh, okay. Yeah.
Everett He knows more about alcohol than any person I've ever met in my life. Uh like encyclopedic knowledge about tequila, mascal, and rum manufacture. Uh Nick at downtown Baker. Um like like really, really, really knowledgeable. And he has been trying to talk me into Hampton estates realms for a while. Oftentimes he's trying to talk me into white rums. And I am just an aged booze guy. Like, gimme aged booze, because that's what I want. So he sends me home the other day with a is that 2
Andrew 00 milliliter? What's the smaller bottle? Like a
Everett quart. Yeah, this is a smaller. He sends me home with a a pint of a booze that wasn't expensive. And he's like, he's like, just try it. It's called Rum Fire. It's got this like uh clip art MS paint label
Andrew . Yeah. And I am
Everett not I am not confident at all about this. No. It says Jamaican white overproof rum from Hampton Estates. And look, I don't nothing
Andrew . It it looked like the thing that y you would expect to see at a bachelorette party on a table
Everett , uh, just gett
Andrew ing white girl wasted.
Everett This is jungle juice,
Everett jungle juice rum, right? This is bottom shell. I'm never buying this. And he's like, you need to buy this and you need to give it a chance. And I'm like, okay, but I'm I'm mixing this with like vanilla coke, right
Andrew ? And Mountain Dew. And he's like,
Everett and a bunch of grape Kool-Aid. Hear me out. It is super funky, very high esters. Hear me out. Just try it. Like it's cheap. You don't have to like you. This isn't huge investment. Hear me out. I know your I know your palette. Give it a try. And I'm like, cool, I'll take it home. I crack this thing. I pour an ounce and I take a sip and I instantly call Andrew and I'm like, brother, you gotta come over here
Andrew . And I did. And he did
Everett . And we drank. Um
Andrew Yeah. And I don'
Everett t know enough about Rom to really know what I'm talking about here. But what this is is a funky tropical white rum with this really high esterate and it is gorgeous.
Andrew It is one of the most gorgeous booz
Everett es I've ever had in my life. Feels to me very much like a very, very nice mascale or something where you get that really sort of high concentration of fruity punch. Also, I'm gonna talk about a gift Andrew bought me. I'm not quite ready to talk about it yet. But also terrific and very similar to this. Um
Andrew is the first time I've had rum and and been like oh I could drink you
Everett yeah uh like I can sit and
Andrew enjoy you like everyone's had a rum and coke everyone's had a dark and stormy everyone's had rum cocktails this was like a drink it neat
Everett . Totally. Totally drink it neat. And it's like borderline almost hazmat, right? 63%
Andrew . Yeah. They have to placard the truck, I'm sure
Everett . And it doesn't taste, it doesn't taste
Everett like that. No, it will get you white girl was
Andrew ted. Oh my gos
Everett h. Really, really, really good. I don't know where you get that like big ester content. I don't know how they get that. Maybe it's like a lower distillation temperature or something. Um yeah, I don't know. So I've since then read some articles, and I understand this is a it's a divisive flavor set but for me who's it gimme aged booze i want it to be brown i want it to be darkish brown i want it to be old
Andrew . Just like you, like your whipping
Everett . I was really, really surprised. And I loved it. I loved it. Um, A, get yourself a liquor store, bro, if you don't have one
Andrew . Or two. Um,
Everett don't tell them about each other. And B, get yourself some round fire because holy shit. It's one of my favorite booze I've ever had at this point in my life. And
Andrew you make the liquor store, bro, by going in and just talking to the dude who you see in the aisle
Everett . Totally. Asking him for a recomm
Andrew endation. And then and then you go back and you tell him what you thought about it. And he's gonna make another one. And then you go back and you tell and tell him what you thought about it, and and pretty soon you start exchanging notes and Christmas cards, and your boy texts you when they get allocated bottles
Everett . Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Rum fire. Hampton estates. Get you some.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. It was it was one of the most surprising uh it was one of the most surprising things you've ever told me to taste
Everett . Yeah. We also had some ricea the first that that that day, which Andrew's never had, and also fantastic. Yeah. Uh we'll come back to that. Hey folks, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, the WatchClicker Podcast. Do me a favor, go to our website, it's WatchClicker.com. That's where we post articles and reviews and pictures. If you want to follow us on social media, you can do that on Instagram at 40 and 20 underscore watchclicker or at watchclicker. That's where we post pictures and also sometimes words about things we're doing on the website. If you want to support us on Patreon, you can do that by giving your money to patreon.com slash 40 and 20. Uh, we do have hosting expenses and they're a lot, like thousands of dollars per year. Maybe thousand-ish dollars per year. Uh yeah, it's expensive. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. And don't forget to tune back in next Tuesday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Bye bye.