Brew Releases its Most Refined Watch Yet (341)

Published on Tue, 13 May 2025 08:03:16 -0700

Synopsis

Hosts Andrew and Everett discuss various recent watch releases and industry news in their casual, conversational style. They begin by discussing the 10th anniversaries of both the Apple Watch and Brew Watches, with particular focus on Brew's new mechanical metric model. They review several new releases including models from Daniel Roth, Squale, Doxa, HTD, and Farer. The hosts provide detailed analysis of each watch's specifications, design elements, and value proposition. The episode concludes with non-watch discussions about grilling equipment and making Spam musubi at home. Throughout the episode, they maintain their characteristic blend of technical knowledge and casual banter while evaluating the aesthetics, practicality, and market positioning of each timepiece.

Transcript

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Everett Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? Just crushing it. Yeah. It's a beautiful Saturday morning. It is a beautiful Saturday morning. We're drinking sparkling water and coffee. Is it okay to admit that? Very few episodes of the Watch Clicker podcast have been recorded since alcohol. Not zero. Not many. But not many. Yeah. Yeah. I would say probably like one hand. Don't you think? Neighborhood, yeah. Probably not two hands. Not two full hands. Maybe one and a half. I don't think it's that many. You think it's like seven or eight? It's not. I think it's less than five. Maybe. I don't know. I'm thinking like maybe three, maybe four. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, whatever. We're not. Well, no, there's been those episodes in the early days where we drank all the beer. And realized we hadn't recorded the episode. Yeah, but that's not recording sans alcohol. That's just recording sans external alcohol. The alcohol is still there. It's just inside of you. No, that's different. Objectively. Maybe, but no. No. So yeah, I'm drinking coffee. I'm drinking coffee. Andrew's a locally roasted Farmer's Union, which I believe you can buy online. This is not a pitch. I'm not getting paid for that. It was a pitch, but I'm not getting paid. There's no reason. I just love Farmer's Union coffee. They're good coffee, yeah. Yeah, how are you, Andrew? I'm good. My older son turned 10 today, or turns 10 today. Yeah, I was going to say happy birthday to him, but I didn't see him. Well, he's not here. He was at a sleepover for his friend who turned 9 yesterday. They slept over at his house last night and are then going to be at our house tonight. So like back-to-back birthday celebrations. So it was nice to wake up with just one kid in the house and be able to start slowly getting birthday stuff together because I'm going to have... Four extra ten-year-olds at my house today. Yeah, don't envy you. No. Don't envy you. No. The recording studio is going to turn into a smelly pit of children. We're going to blow up some air mattresses and... I don't know. I might close and lock the door from the outside. Just barricade it. Yeah. No, smart. That's a smart idea. Okay. Well, good. Well, here we are. We're pretty early. This might be the earliest we've ever recorded, too. I'm sure we've recorded earlier than this. Although, again, not many times. There have been like some pre-work. There have been like, I think one time it was like 6.30 we recorded. So this is casual enough. This is casual. You know, Andrew, does this happen to you as I get older? I like wake up at normal time even on the weekends. I get woken up. I don't remember the last time I woke up naturally. My children are all so much older now that they sleep in. But I'm like, this morning, 6.30, I just was like, no. I'm up. I got woken up to the sound of a toy guitar and scream singing. Oh, that's fun. And then my dog is subsequently barking because that was bothersome to them. That is bothersome. Something terrible is going on. Six o'clock in the morning. Magical Saturday. Well, in any event, we are here not to talk about toy guitars and scream singing or barking dogs or our brief non-alcoholic interludes. Rather, we're here to talk about watches, and there are many, many watches that we're here to talk about. Andrew, we had an incredible amount of overlap. You know, we talk about this most of our frequently, but today I think this maybe truly is the most overlap we've ever had. Maybe. I don't know. I think it was kind of a slow week in things that were actually interesting. Yeah, but I think that's right. But the things that were interesting are interesting. Very. You had one watch on your list that I had seen and sort of skipped over. And then I think I've got three that you perhaps saw and skipped over. I saw and was just like, meh. Not your thing. I mean... There was some things that were interesting, like, oh, cool, that's neat. And they just didn't, like, I don't care to talk about them. What I do want to talk about, and what I want to start with, two watches celebrating their 10th anniversary. The Apple Watch, there's no link up for it, but that's wild that that's 10 years old. 10 years, yeah. And what everyone kind of thought was going to be the death of... what we thought was going to be effectively a new quartz crisis, right, in the way of smartwatches, really turned into one of the more interesting and vibrant periods of watch brands and watch design in watch history. And... brew celebrating their 10th anniversary this year so with for the 10th anniversary we have a brew metric with a manual wind we have a few limited editions coming in and they're all Just good. They're all just great. I mean, they're not just good. They're great because Brew does fantastic stuff. It's the metric, so it's a 36 millimeter case, eight and a half thick, steel, blue or gray dials, 50 meters of water resistance, a Sellita SW210 movement. 875, gray gets 100, blue gets 25. And I wish she'd had actually reversed that because I think the blue is a much better colorway. The blue colorway has kind of like a fairer colorway feel to it. All right. Just the X, like a lot of colors that are all consistent with the way John at brew designs his watches, but the, the way they play together kind of immediately made me think, Oh, fair drop a square watch. And then, that's not Ferrer. Yeah. Well, I will just say, I think that, you know, Brew released... It's funny that I was talking about Ferrer and John Ferrer. Yeah, that is funny. They're like... Homophones. Yeah. You know, Brew did a mechanical metric back in 2023, I think, and I wasn't wild about it. I wasn't wild about it for a couple reasons. One, um well really just one reason it had an nh35 movement john has talked to us before about his fantastic relationship with seiko i think that they've treated him incredibly well over the years and so it really did make sense when he released this watch that it would have a Seiko movement. I just thought, I felt like, whereas the VK68s work really well for this design, it just felt to me like the NH35 was kind of a miss, I thought. Yeah. It allowed it to keep prices exceptionally low, but it just felt like, I didn't love that. I didn't like the choice of that movement. Here we've got... Here we've got some upgrades here. So first, that first brew metric was small, 36, but it was 11, I think it was 10, 7, 5 thick or 11 thick. In the zone, yeah. Here we get 36 and just 8.5 thick. This is by far the most refined brew watch ever made. And for me, this is a watch that really is befitting for a mechanical brew. You know, brew's been pushing the limits on materials and methods for a number of years. Jonathan has, you know, he's got titanium. You know, some of the collabs have been really, really incredible. This, to me, feels like sort of a capstone, you know, perfectly thin. They've got what they're calling mountaintop markers that are, like, textured. They're crinkle-cut fries. Crinkle-cuts, gorgeous with loom, a terrific brew, handset. Yeah, the stepped dial, the sort of sector stepped dial with like decidedly 70s styling, but also super duper fucking modern, maybe 60s style. Manually wound Salida SW210. Boom. Boom. This thing is terrific. First Swiss watch. Yeah. Wonderful proportions. Swiss movement. It's not Swiss made. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Swiss movement. Wonderful proportions. And 875. Like he didn't have to go crazy with the pricing. It's more money, right? It's more money. As to be expected. Yeah, that's right. Prices have gone up. Materials have gone up. Manufacturing has gone up. Swiss movement. And it's got a Swiss movement. 875, I think, is a fantastic price for this watch.
Andrew Mm-hmm.
Everett You know, it's 36. Some people are going to say, just without looking at it, that's too big. But it's not. These are square TV dials with a big integrated or not. I guess it's integrated. But the bracelet doesn't, you know, the lugs don't come in sharply like many watches. This is going to wear pretty big, I think. Oh, it's going to be great. Yeah, well, I don't mean big in a bad way. I just mean larger than the 36 number would suggest. Probably, yeah. I think it's great. I think it's a fantastic watch, and I'm pumped about it. Great 10-year anniversary watch. I'm going to say, Andrew, I don't know that I heard anybody seriously suggest that the Apple Watch was going to cause the next quartz crisis. I think, just to sort of get back to this, I think that... By the time the Apple Watch was released, watches had already sort of become jewelry, right? There's nobody, well, I won't say nobody. We've still got a lot of these, like, maybe not a lot, but we still got World War II vets and, you know, these folks that wear watches practically as a tool. And, you know, for my part, I use my watch to tell time. But by and large, watches are jewelry. outside of a practical, inexpensive time. So I don't know that there were too many people that were going to spend money on an enthusiast watch who stopped and are like, no, no more watches for me, right? Certainly we do see like people in the watch industry like saying, yeah, mostly I've been wearing my Apple watch, but it's not stopping them from buying watches. It's a hobby, right? Yeah, I mean, I was thinking more in terms of how innovation was going to be impacted. Like brands aren't, because it's jewelry, right? But most people would just prefer an Apple Watch. Maybe not most. Many people would just prefer an Apple Watch because they want to have their connected device. It looked like it was going to be harder to get people to buy a watch as a timekeeping device because it was so limited in its capabilities relative to if you're going to be wearing a watch, why not wear a connected device? Okay. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. I will say the Apple Watch, from a practicality standpoint... If you're wearing a watch as something to be helpful to you, like you're really, I mean, you can get Apple Watches now for not very much money. Not much at all. And, you know, if you're still wearing a G-Shock because it's practical, maybe consider it. You know, I mean, the convenience is so, I mean, it's just incredible. It really is incredible. I don't like the battery life on them. I don't like having another device that has to be charged every single day. I don't think it's every day. Mark's needs charged every day. Sam's needs charged every day. What's I think the new ones, the Apple watch. Battery life. Let's see. I think the pros, like the expensive ones, I think have a multi-day battery life, but your run of the mill, like your entry level ones. No, no, you're right. You're right. Some of them as much as 72 hours, but in a low power mode, but generally daily. Well, there you go. Take that, Hamilton, H-80, whatever. Yeah, Powermatic 80. I don't think we've talked about Daniel Roth on the show. Uh, we've maybe talked about Daniel Radcliffe. Perhaps. So Daniel Roth is a watch brand. Sort of came into fashion in the 80s and 90s. Known for making just excellent, excellent watches. The best watches in the world. There's a whole story. We're not going to talk about it today. But a couple years ago, there was a Daniel Roth revival. And they released a limited, they call it tourbillon subscription. And when we're talking about limited, we mean actually limited. This is a 20-piece run, which was a rose gold tourbillon, which sold for like, I think it was like $1,700 billion. beautiful best watches in the world type of stuff. Um, but subsequently we, we got a second release and now we're getting, I believe the third or fourth revival Daniel Roth release, which is a standard, um, Which is a standard sort of, I want to say, non-limited model, which is not to say these are going to be on every Macy's jewelry counter. This is incredibly expensive. So just we'll get the important shit out of the way. This is a 49,000 Swiss franc watch. Okay. So let's just lead with that. Yeah. It is a 5N rose gold. They call it the extra plat rose gold. 38.6, they're calling it a double ellipses case. Oh, not 5N, 5H rose gold with a solid white gold dial that's got guilloche and a 5N rose gold chapter ring. Uh, this thing is stunning. It is a stunning watch. I don't know. I don't know who this watch is for. Cause I can tell you it's not for me. Yeah, it's not for me either, but I'd sure I I'd like my wife to have one. Yeah, why? Because then I'd wear it from time to time. This is definitely a men's watch. It's big, but I want her to have it because it's rose gold. I think she'd like that. Mother's Day is tomorrow, so maybe I'll splurge, and then I can wear it from time to time. And when I say this is a men's watch, I don't mean this is a watch that only men can wear. I mean, this is a watch designed to be worn by men. The size is a 38.6. millimeter case it's got a relatively long lug to lug of um i just saw the lug to lug length this is a watch that you wear in like a white linen suit uh with no shirt underneath your jacket Yeah, perhaps. It's a gorgeous watch, and it feels very much like a watch that could have been released in 1990. And it's just beautiful. This, like, gold... They're calling it a chapter ring. I wouldn't call it a chapter ring. It's in, like, minute track. Yeah, minute and hour track. Yeah. Sitting on, you know, rose gold on white gold. I mean, this thing is. If you want a piece of jewelry. This is it. And that movement, Andrew. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Goddamn. So this is in-house caliber, which should not be shocking. The DR-002, which was released last year. It's manually wound. It's got an incredible 65-hour power reserve, and it's stunning. We don't need to talk about this because nobody listening is going to buy this, and we're not going to buy it. So we can stop talking about it now, but I just wanted to say I think this thing is fucking incredible. It is lovely. Can I talk about something else that we could buy? And I think maybe even somebody listening might buy. Sure. How did we decide we were going to say squale? Squale? Squale. Squale. Yeah. Luke Albert, if you're listening, squale. Okay. And not squala. No, I don't know. I'm not a smart guy. No, me either. Everyone knows this about us. No, you know, the thing is, Andrew, I know like the Spanish and Italian pronunciation. Like I know that, but for whatever reason, I just somewhat squalor. It doesn't make any sense. Like that pronunciation. I don't know why someone said that. And I was like, Oh, that must be how you pronounce that. Yeah. Squalor. Cause there's so many things that you would, that you would, you look at and you think it should be said one way, but like, Names, as this is a name. So often when the name of its heritage gets moved to another country, the pronunciation changes. You know, people talk over generations. People talk a lot about Americans' difficulty in pronouncing words or even sort of English speakers, native English speakers' difficulty in pronouncing words. Like, why would you have so much trouble? It's an easy word to pronounce. But, you know, we grew up with a language where... vowels are entirely subjective, not subjective, but in pretty subjective, very flexible. They're not subjective, but they're flexible. I should say, right. Sometimes, sometimes they make this sound. Sometimes they make that sound and sometimes they make no sound at all. Yeah. Right. And when you compare that to a romance language where vowels are usually a constant, Like if this vowel is here, it's going to make this sound. The rule is easy, but the execution can be difficult. It's a difficult transition. And the written language is so like you have to know rules that are subjectively applied. Whereas in many languages... Flexibly applied. Flexibly applied, yeah. In many languages, there's a modifier added to the vowel so that you know what it's supposed to sound like. That's right. That's right. Yeah. I mean, it's a much simpler system. Yeah. That's why English is hard to learn because it doesn't, no one knows it. And it's hard to make the transitions. Like, yeah, squala could be. Sure. I heard someone say it that way. That must be how it is. I accept because it's like names change. I have a coworker whose name is Polish, but instead of a ch sound over the decades, the generations in America, they've just reduced that C to a S. So you say it the way it's supposed to be said. She's like, no, that's not how you say it. I'm like, ah, are you sure? You know, we do the thing, Andrew, we do it on this show, right? Where you will have read a word 8,000 times and you don't realize that you've never spoken it or heard it spoken aloud until someone corrects you. Yeah, I got actually corrected in court once. I was saying the word detritus. Detritus. And the judge was like, I'm sorry, I don't know that word. And I was like, oh, detritus. And the judge was like, do you mean detritus in fucking court on the record? And I was like, that is probably what I mean, your honor. Thank you, your honor. That's why you sit there and I stand here. Fortunately, it was a judge I know. And it was funny. And everybody laughed. But it was like, I've never heard that word spoken aloud. Why am I saying it? Why would you say it out loud? Because I didn't. It's a common word, right? You know, readers, I think readers run into this a lot. So I read a lot. You read a lot too, Andrew. Yeah. It just had never occurred. I mean, I was just like, it's a word I know so well. If I've never heard a word said, I won't say it. My point is, it didn't occur to me that I'd never heard it said aloud. Oh, fair. Yeah. Right? Like, it's a word that is... You know how it works. You know the context. You know why. I write it. I read it. I write it. I read it. I write it. I read it. Never realized that I've never spoken it aloud. Right? Your point is a good one. Why would you say it? I don't know. It just never occurred to me that I'd never heard it. That's how that word is said. It's like when you read a book and you picture the character and then you see the movie and you're like, that's not what that guy looks like. Wrong. Squally. Squally. A brand that originated as a case maker for other watch brands discovered some new old stock cases from the 1950s and have released it in the limited edition Corallo. I don't speak Italian, but it's not Correo. Corallo? Corallo? Corallo? Perhaps. It is Italian for coral. Reason being is that the eight humps around the outside of this bezel are reminiscent of coral lumps. And we have some great colorways coming out of this. We have a black, a light blue with a, what do you call it, a Batman bezel? Black north and light blue. Fair. Yeah, it's a little light to be Batman, but maybe like an Adam West bezel. Yeah, or maybe like a Mr. Freeze instead. I'm sticking with Adam West. Okay. We have a really, really good bright blue with a color matched bezel. And these are just fantastic. Find a profile view of this case. Kind of dog bowl shaped. Like this just... This looks like one of the most comfortable, cool tool watches in the world. Size on this thing, because it's a 1950s case, is absolutely terrific. Where is it? I had the size just a second ago. 36.8 diameter, 10.5 thick, 44 lug to lug. This is gonna be just this fantastic, compact, vintage feeling, but modern design, modern design. manufacturing away from the case. Absolutely fantastic. I love these new old stock like discoveries. It makes me want to start like buying. and just hoarding it in storage containers. So a couple of corrections here. You said these are 1950s new old stock cases. They're not. So Squale is a 1959 company. I believe these are cases that they made for MRPSA in the 80s. So that's my understanding. Is that what it is? Yeah. Oh, yeah, they are. Which, I mean, it's an important distinction to make. But a minor quibble. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I almost left this off the list. It's really interesting. I almost left this off the list because I kind of don't like the watch. Oh, I love it. You know, I'm going to tell you, the lugs on this are dated for me in a bad way. Oh, no. These lugs come to an almost, well, almost come to a point at the end. And they're very thin. And furthermore, I think that the strap that they've decided to sell this on. I don't like the strap. Is not flattering, right? No, it's an 80s strap. This is a guy or gal, I should say, who has prominent muffin top that wears low cut jeans. Like, listen. Listen, they make... I take offense to that description. They make jeans that are cut higher that will be more flattering. That's how I feel about this. Yeah, but if you get them cut higher, that's what squishes more muffin top out. Listen, as a muffin top carrying member... A caring member of the Muffin Top Brigade. I'm just going to say, let the rise rise. Okay? For me, I think a much smaller, much more narrow strap. that sort of flowed with this case would be better. The bracelet works though. The bracelet. The strap does not. Works. Now, I've talked about this on the show, but when we designed the foster, the original concept was to go old school and we realized with the bracelet and we realized that manufacturing wise, you can't do that. You can't do it anymore. Well, they had these, and so why not? This is a stamped and rolled bracelet, and it's awesome. Yeah. And it's awesome. I am curious. A lot of these SA... So manufacturer cases, these, you know, what's the name of, what's the word for how the industry is fractured? It's just the tip of my tongue. Anyway, these third-party cases, a lot of them have shared dimensions so that parts can be exchanged. I almost want to pick one of these up just for the bracelet because I think that this bracelet might have some uses. I think that there are maybe watches that this bracelet would work with in a good way. Frankly, it doesn't fit this case all that well, but I think perhaps with some other watches. Now, for $2,000... I'm probably not going to buy this just for the bracelet. You could buy it. I'll let you have the bracelet. I'll put that on FKM and I'll just keep the watch. So I buy it. Yeah. And then give you the watch head. Yeah. That way you don't have to have the watch because you don't particularly care for it. I'm doing you a favor. Edit 2892. Fantastic movement for this watch. Only 300 of them. Yeah, this is really cool. You know, I guess that's the deal, right, Andrew? If you look at this and you say, oh, I like that, fucking get it.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Super thin. It's got a terrific aluminum bezel. I've never seen an aluminum bezel like this. I do think that that bezel, to me, that bezel looks to me like it's going to get mangled. the very first time you bump anything. Or look at something because it's so arched and protruding. Yeah. Probably not the most durable bezel on the face of the earth, if I had to guess. No. This thing is going to wear its bumps and bruises. As it's supposed to. And I know that my strap comment is so weird, right? Because it's like, put this on whatever strap you want. I think it's hard for me when I see a brand make a watch and then market it heavily with an ornamentation that is like, it's not working. No, it doesn't work. It's not working. There's a weird strap gap. Not where you expect it to be, but at the lugs. It's like they didn't manufacture that strap to fit the lug shape. Yeah, I think that the lug holes are in a weird position because you see that with the end link too. You see that the strap doesn't, the end link on the bracelet doesn't really like the lug hole position. Yeah. But I think that that might be when you look then that rubber strap touches the case and then projects pretty far away from the lug. So I think the dimension there is just a little awkward. So make a strap to fit it. Yeah. Because that's offensive. Yeah, that's the picture I'm looking at too. So it's really stupid for us to be criticizing the design of a watch that was designed 40 years ago. So we'll stop now. There's some little things, right? A little miss. Yeah. But it's not like we're not criticizing Squale for having designed this. And in fact, we are very, very excited that they released this watch. And it's really cool. But just in terms of, is this watch for me? That's kind of the things I look at. It's cool. I think you have to buy into the spirit of what this is. Oh, yeah. Fully. Don't be too critical. And you're right, Andrew. The case is terrific. What a cool case shape. Yeah. Yeah, that was going to be my next one. There's something I know you want to talk about. I know you want to talk about because of a couple reasons. So he is looking at my wrist right now. I am wearing my Seiko SKX007. This is a watch that, well, I'm on the record as saying this is my first sort of big boy watch or real watch or however you want to phrase that thing. But this was the first real thoughtful watch decision I made. And I just love this watch. I'll never get rid of it. It needs a service or a new movement or something. I'm sort of disinclined to get a new movement just because I love the fact that this is all original. Over the years, I've thought about modding it, and I'm glad that I haven't. These things are going for anywhere from $400 to $800 now. The prices on these have finally sort of gone up as the supply has really, really gone down. I'd venture to say that... There is not much new old stock left. I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. Even just, what, two years ago, you could still get these pretty regularly for $300. Yeah, you get them brand new in box for $300-ish. And you just don't see that very much at all anymore. um ebay sort of new with tags or or you know like new with tags kind of or you know like new inbox type of deals um at around 400 but if on amazon i think they're like 850 and you can get them 500 sarbs the same way yeah yeah that's right like sarb's always been a little bit more expensive kind of like almost makes me want to unload my sarb You know, in 2019, Seiko released what we call the 5KX, the SRP Seiko 5 Sports line, which Seiko has renamed, I believe, the Seiko 5 Sports SKX line over the years. They didn't do that initially. That's been something that they did later. They have released a run of... seiko five sports skx which look very much like the og skx double you know zero zero the automatic iso divers watches so so what these are is five kicks that look very much like the original skx's These are Seiko 5s, though, right? Which is to say 100 meters of water resistance. Yeah, some notable differences. Non-ISO certified, non-dive watches, non-screwdown crowns. In some ways, this is a better watch than the SKX007. But in other ways... In most ways, it's not. It's not ISO certified and it's not a dive watch, but I would disagree with that characterization. So this is a much better movement than on my watch. Hacking, hand winding, 4R35, just altogether better movement. The bezel mechanics are slightly improved. You know, aesthetically and functionally, the case is very, very similar. But with that said... these are made to look very much like the SKX line, right? So the black dialed watch has a... You know, red automatic at 6 o'clock. The yellow dialed version matches the yellow dialed SKX, I would say, one to one. The orange is really good. They also have a blue, a blue sunray dial with a blue bezel, which I don't believe existed in the SKX line. And there's no Pepsi dial.
Andrew Mm-hmm.
Everett So the SKX009 is absent from this release. These are available in June, part of the permanent collection. I think the yellow and orange on rubber come in at 400 euro, which is probably 385 bucks. And the blue and black are on a bracelet at 440. And these bracelets are better, by the way. That's the other piece. I don't like the three-link. President style, yeah. This is a president style bracelet. Nobody's buying these for the bracelet, right? I will just note I wear my SKX007 on an Uncle Seiko, not an Uncle Straps, on an Uncle Seiko Z199. So... Andrew, I think these are really great releases. They are. At first, I was kind of ho-hum about them. But the more I sort of looked at it and the more I thought about what it meant, both for the SKX007 and the SRP SKX line, the 5KX line, I was like, you know... I'm good with this. This is a really neat release. This gives people the opportunity to have this watch. I mean, I don't think that Seiko could make the SKX today.
Andrew No.
Everett They couldn't make the SKX. You know, they'd have to make decisions at several points that would probably just make this watch more expensive. Right? Yeah, because $180. They can't make this bracelet anymore. So then, you know... So, yeah, they can use the 5KX bracelet. But then all of a sudden, now we're looking at more water resistance. Even if you keep everything else the same and make it an ISO-certified dive watch, $700, $750 MSRP? Easy, yeah. And even if the retail on that, the actual map is like $500, it's hard. I mean, that competes with the turtle. And so what other decisions are being made in there? Seiko, I don't think, is ISO certified much, if anything, below $1,000 these days. No, I don't think so. This makes a lot of sense. This makes a lot of sense to me. And I really like it. I do wonder if Seiko will go back to this case shape at some point in a real dive watch. My fear is that if they do it, maybe this isn't a fear. Maybe this is cool. My fear is that if they do it, they're going to do it at the like SPB. Yeah. Which I say that's my fear, but maybe that's really, maybe that would be cool. I don't know. I think it's a reasonable fear because so much of the charm of the SKX was it was this no bullshit actual tool watch that was super affordable. Sure. No, and that's fair. And I think to do anything else other than that is almost... It's not an SKX. Maybe they do a heritage release and do all the upgrades that we all asked for and haven't inspired by, but I still think it's... You know the bezel on my SKX isn't aligned. Not even close. It's like exactly in between clicks, like 50% in between clicks. That makes sense. That's a Seiko thing. They like half minute clicks. I sometimes think about setting this in a windowsill that gets a lot of sun. And just ghosting it? Yeah, just storing it there. Just keeping it in that windowsill for when I'm not wearing it. Because I don't wear it all that often. But just instead of having it in the watch box, just keep it in that windowsill. Do it. Make it tropical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how tropical this would get. I don't think it would. Yeah, I don't think it would get crazy. I think realistically you'd have to go set it somewhere in an intertidal zone and weigh it down for a couple years and then go geocache. That's what it's called, geocaching. Sure. Go retrieve it. What's next? Another word that I'm not super sure how I should say. Coming from Swatch, scubaqua? I think so. That's how I'm pronouncing it. Chewbacca. Yeah. So we've got some Chewbacca jellies coming for summer, and these are fun. So Swatch is doing a... Did you say Chewbacca? Yeah. Okay. That's more fun than Chewbacca. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And they're jellies, so they are chewy. Right? Are we there? Yeah, I'm here. I'm with you. Okay. So... These are really fun. These are totally transparent jelly style cases. What'd they use for it? Some manner of bio source material for transparent components, which is cool because everything about these watches is transparent. So you can see right through the dial and into the quartz movement, which though it's just a quartz movement is still kind of fun and cool. Six colorways, right? Six. Hang on, hang on. Oh, five colorways at launch. Red, black, yellow, blue, and white. 100 meters of water resistance. 44 millimeter case, which is something I would expect from Swatch. These are going to be big. They're going to be bright. They're also 150 bucks. These are just fun. These are the kind of watch that you get for your 10-year-old to wear during the summer. Yeah, I like... The yellow is really good. The yellow is great. I like just about everything about this watch. I'm really glad that Swatch is... being deliberate about releasing new watches. As much as the Blancpain and the Omegas are almost certainly carrying the line for Swatch, I think instead of leaning on those, I think that Swatch has an opportunity here to reinvigorate itself as a brand. Swatch obviously did its thing in the 1980s. Every kid had... one or 12 swatch watches they were affordable they were easy to wear they were reliable you know as reliable as they needed to be um and and that's not the case anymore right now you know swatch release there's they've got system 51 they've continued to sort of innovate but not in a way that anybody gave a shit about that's my take Yeah, until we saw the bioceramic pairing with Omega, Blancpain. That's right. So the biggest watch company in the world, their namesake brand, I think, frankly, was sort of a non-entity. And with the Moonswatch and the Blancpain, I think really the Moonswatch, but also the Blancpain, they've changed that. And so if they can leverage that opportunity... I like a lot of these. A hundred meters of water resistance, I think is great. 10 o'clock crown. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I just, I'm excited about this watch. Not like, Oh, I think it's fun. I'm excited because I think to me what it says, I hope these are successful because what I think it means is that swatch is like, okay, we're actually going to start making neat things again. And there's no accusation there, right? I don't think Swatch ever went away. I just think that there's been a very long time where Swatch wasn't making things that I was interested in. Andrew, you know, the System 51 watches, I think, well, this is interesting technology, but it wasn't until Swatch released that Hodinkee... that blue oh yeah that i had any sort of like fomo but i was like oh that's really neat um this to me feels like okay okay swatch is gonna swatch is gonna make a they're spitting some game again they're spitting some game i don't know that i would buy these i think they're a little busy for me i think the white and the yellow are super fun i think i tend towards the white but the yellow is by far the coolest i really like the black I really like the black. It was boring, but I kind of, you lose out on that transparency feel like that jelly. Sure. Transparency that makes all the other colors really interesting to me. But the black also, the black just, it looks good. It just looks like a black swatch though. Yeah. The yellow is cool. I'm with you. The yellow, the yellow is exciting. It's like, wow. White's got all kinds. It's got a red hour hand, blue minute and a yellow second hand. Can we agree that the blue is lame? Yeah, it's the lamest of them. And the red. It's okay. It's okay. The white and the yellow. The yellow is a banger. The yellow is a banger. Yeah, that's the one. And they're $150. Yeah. I know you said that, but geez louise. Geez louise. Great size. You know, it's a big watch. It's a 44 millimeter dive watch. That's right. With 150 meters of water resistance. 100 meters, right? Yeah, 100 meters. Oh, yeah, 150 bucks, 100 meters of water resistance. Correctamundo. Yeah, these are cool. And it's exciting. I hope that this is a sign of things to come and not just... Yeah. Okay. So I'll let you talk about that because, oh, you got a couple of things. Just quickly, just quickly. Hamilton released a khaki Navy scuba auto GMT this week. Boring. It is. Oh, okay. So the khaki navy. Why am I having trouble? I don't know. The khaki navy scuba. There's something about that combination of words. Khaki navy. We've talked about this watch before. We've talked about this watch before. I think it suffers most of all. It's a 40 millimeter watch. dive watch that you know iso certified uh 24 hour sort of field dive watch vibe uh with 100 meters water resistance right so uh excuse me i said iso certified non-iso certified 100 meter It doesn't compete with anything at its price point, and it doesn't compete with anything in Hamilton's line. It just doesn't make sense. Well under $1,000, 2824 movement, tank build, kind of chunky. It's just like, well, would you get this over a 5KX? No. Yeah. Okay. So I think that's kind of where we fall on this. This is similar. Or a Doxa 200, right? We're at the same price for way less. Right, right, right, right. So this is, I mean, this is similar-ish, right? You know, I know this is a broad line. They've also got like a 43-millimeter, 300 meters of water resistance version, blah, blah, blah. And that's the version of this that they've added a GMT to. So what we get is a dive watch, a proper dive watch with a GMT hand. at a movement, unsurprisingly. And it comes in both steel and bronze. Steel you can get on a bracelet. Bronze comes on a strap, which, fair. Bronze is hard to make bracelets out of, and it would probably increase the price. And ugly as sin. Anyway. I'll just say I maybe don't agree, but I'll move on. They've removed the 24-hour scale because this is a GMT, and so now we've got a 24-hour bezel. Makes sense. We've got... Everything here is good. Everything here is good. Except that I still don't love it, Andrew. It's still boring. I still don't love it. It competes... So I'll just say, this competes with... some watches right uh i think edda also or swatch also makes the certina ds action gmt oh it's right here mito ocean star gmt it's kind of competing with those but not really the bronze version of this i think is cool i think it's cool you put it on a strap it comes on a pretty cool pass-through that's got like a black and bronze the the it looks good And it's not super crazy, right? It's $1,600. And I'm like, for a bronze watch, I'm down. But when I get to the steel version, Andrew, we've got $1,400 for a 43 millimeter, 13.9 millimeter GMT watch that comes with a shitty Powermatic 80. GMT, not shitty, but not great either. Not good enough. And I'm just not feeling it. I'm just not feeling it. The bracelet's kind of ugly. The watch is thick. It's got a mediocre dial. It does have a beautiful bezel. The handset is fantastic. The dial text is all too big or like too something. And when you compare it to a C63 GMT at the same price... Yeah. It's like, don't buy the fucking Hamilton. Buy the 63. Buy the C63 for $1,300. The bronze, one of the things that I'm struggling to reconcile... is the color of the loom against the bronze case. I wish they would have gone like a really good white rather than this kind of yellowy green. Like it just, the contrast of the bronze and of the bronze on the hands just makes it look weird. And that's been my bitch about Hamilton dive watches really since I started to give a shit about watches is they're just like, Hamilton does something so well. It's like this just peripheral line. Their field watches. Yeah, their field watches. That's what they do well. This peripheral line that just hangs out and they can't reconcile why they can do field watches so well with why they don't do dive watches. Just do your dive watches like you do your field watches. It seems like it should be easy. You can get a C65 Aquatain GMT on a Bader bracelet for $1,600. Do that. Do that. Do that. Do that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not mad at this watch. I just don't think there's ever a world in which anybody should ever buy it. I don't know who's buying it. Don't buy this watch. The bronze one's cool. Get the bronze one. If you love it, get the bronze one. But actually maybe get an Aquatain. An Aorus. Yeah. Right. Get a Diver 65 in bronze. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right? You're going to get less water resistance. So when you're actually at the bottom of the ocean, it's maybe not going to work as well. But if you're at the bottom of the ocean, you're fucked. You might not have to worry about your watch. I want to say a brand new Diver 65 in bronze on a bracelet. $2,400 or $6,500 on a strap. Right? I don't know. What did I say? $1,600 on a strap. Yeah, I was like, $6,500 doesn't sound right. No, I just said the wrong word. Okay. I just said the wrong word. Yeah. Don't buy this watch. This is a stupid watch. Sorry. I want to briefly talk about something. Doxa 200T has, again, Doxa's doing some stuff. They're just churning things out, right? After a long period of just novelty, special edition, limited editions, add a couple new SKUs, 200T now available with polished steel bezel insert in lieu of the Sapphire. And I think it's a good change. Yeah, me too. It's a good change. Me too. Still the double colorways, the gloss, and the matte. It's all the same shit, but with a polished steel bezel insert in lieu of sapphire. Yeah, no, Andrew, I'm with you. I think this is a good... I've been vocal about my distaste for... The dock's a sub 200. Did you say T? It says not the 200T. It's just the sub 200. I've been vocal about my distaste for this watch. With that said, this is an improvement. I think just aesthetically, visually, this is an improvement. Yeah. And they're still cheap. Yeah, they're still... A thousand bucks. A thousand bucks, yeah. Get this instead of the crappy Hamilton design. I mean, that bird almost entered the window. Honestly, this is infinitely better than the Hamilton watch. Yeah. But also, you shouldn't get this watch. Get a 300. Well, are we done? Oh no, we're not done. We still have some things. We're fine. It's our show. We managed to time. There's only one thing that's left, right? Oh no, why don't you do this weird one? Oh, yeah. So this is not a brand that I was familiar with at all. Bristol? No. A Parisian brand. Or just about anyone else. No one knows. Nobody speaks. It's a 12-year-old company. Yeah, a 12-year-old company. I had never heard of this brand. There is a really lovely Streamliner Kennedy collection that has just been released. And I... I am here for it. I like square watches, if anybody doesn't know that about me. This is a square watch, maybe closer to a rectangle. It's kind of somewhere between a square and a rectangle. I feel like some of the design elements remind me of something, but I can't think of what. Yeah, it's like a Santos meets a tank. With a 12 o'clock crown. Yeah, with a bullhead crown. And I really like 12 o'clock crown. I don't know why. It looks like a rectangle, but it's a 36 by 36 watch. What's making it look rectangular? Is it the lugs? Yes. Yeah. It's the lugs. Yeah. Because it's literally rectangular when you include the lugs. Miota 9039 movement. It's a good price. Yeah. Like, everything about this watch, 10 millimeters, makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't have, I have zero objections to this watch. I do find that the level of homagery. borders on offensive but it's not california i back up i i maybe it's the crown maybe it's the blue inlay at the end of the crown yeah that's kind of a hard one too far it's that's a hard one to overlook it's one step too far But there's, like, this is... What's the deal with the case with the... So, we've got two sections of the case. Like, the outside is... Tortoiseshell acetate on the left and right sides. On the flanks. That is really, really cool looking. It does. I just like everything about this watch. Yeah, me too. Like I said, I do get that just slight... A slight little bit of ooh. A slight homagery, oogie feeling. But then I look at the watch and I'm like, nope, they're good. You get a pass. Yeah, because it's homaged, but inspired by. Inspired by, but it's totally its own thing. From tip to tail, it's its own thing. Yeah, like a California Art Deco dial. With a great step. Is this California? Yeah. Numerals in Roman? Like Arabic and Roman? California is like. Alternating. Yeah. So it's alternating Roman numerals and Arabic numerals. That's one of those words. That's one of those phrases that I'm not totally sure what it means. So this might be California. When I think of California dial, I think of a combination of Roman numerals and Arabic numerals. Yeah. Even though I know it's typically referring to like a top half bottom half transition. But this is that great texture in the center of the dial. But this is cool. This is under a thousand bucks. Good enough movement, loomed. I'll just say. Tortoise shell acetate affixed to the sides. If they skip the lapis lazuli, what do they call that? Cabochon.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett If they skipped that, I would be like, yes, yes, yes. That's a silly thing. I know it's weird. I hate it when I get hung up on something stupid. But that is, I think that's the thing that makes me feel like, this is going to look like I'm trying to wear. Like I'm trying to wear a Cartier. I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah. It's really cool, man. It's really cool. And I agree with you that it's sort of a tank meets Santos. I think this is neat. I have a hard time being grumpy about this. Yeah. And yeah, never heard of him. Yeah. Bristone. Okay. So, okay. Quickly, I'll do, I'll do HTD, another brand. Never heard of them. And then I see this watch and I'm like, well, these are cool. So this is a. I think an Italian brand that came out roughly five years ago that I have heard exactly zero about since that time. I perhaps missed this because I looked and I was like, meh. So they released a sort of... Daytona vibe, like a Paul Newman era Daytona vibe. So there's a legend that the Italians made the Daytona the Daytona because Paul Newman was pictured in some Italian magazine, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, that's the legend. True or not, I don't know. I don't give a shit. But that is the legend that HTD has leaned into. This is very much, they do very much a Daytona vibe on the dial, which is not to say that these watches look anything like a Daytona after that, but the dial, in particular the sub-dials, it's like, yes, I got it. I see you, Paul Newman. I think their vibe in the past was sort of vintage build and vintage aesthetic, which we've already talked about this once on today's show. Sounds great in theory, maybe not great in practice. Here they've redesigned their marquee watch, which is the Hesse graph. They've released this in two iterations, the cannoli and the variante B. I was surprised when we got cannoli and then we didn't get another dessert. We've got the cannoli and the variante B, which makes me think there's something else going on there. I want to say the cannoli is... Am I going to get this backwards? The Cannoli is a bicompax and the Variante B is a tricompax. White dial on the Cannoli, black dial. So white dial black bicompacts, black dial white tricompacts on the Variante. And they both look... I mean, this is very much a Daytona vibe. The case, however, I... not a Daytona case. In fact, Andrew, when I saw this case, I got grammar design vibes. Oh, so I went, uh, like, um, it felt kind of Tag Heuer-y. Yeah. Fair. Fair. Fair. Because we do have, we've got like sort of a grammar of design, um, bevel on the outside of the mid case but that comes in and twists so i i think really good bevel on on the inside cut of those lugs like kind of king seiko e yes yeah right right so and anyway which is not to say this isn't really i mean it's kind of something right and there's all it's very much its own thing inspired by many A billion watches that look like this, but I'm satisfied that this watch is its own thing, and I really like it. So here's where I get excited. So we are now a 39-millimeter chronograph. With a 48-millimeter lug-to-lug that's long, but it looks to me like it would wear really well because we've got a good curve. And we're at 12-4 thick. Yeah. We're at 12-4 thick. They only give us 50 meters of water resistance, but I'm okay with it, right? I think it's a little hard to make a Daytona with 50, like a Daytona homage with 50 meters of water resistance, but... Um, this works to me and it's got terrific fonts and the entire dial is written in Italian. Love it. I love it. So Hesagraph, it says Carica Manual, which I think is manual wind, Anti-Erto, which is... Anti-shock. So we've got... Just on the cannoli, though, very little font on the Variante B. That's right, because it's got that third register where the text would have gone. So, yeah. You know what I love about the... These are cool. Variante. Salida SW-510 on these. They didn't fuck with the markers. to get that third register in. They all fit perfectly between the indices. There are some executions where I don't mind cuts or even we talked about a watch a couple weeks ago that they just slightly canted the markers at five and seven to accommodate for the third register, which I liked. but typically I don't like it. I want you to design it so that it all fits together. Yeah. Yeah. Being like, you know, like, well, I'm going to, I'm going to make this addition to my, to this room. I'm just going to, I'm going to cut a chunk out of this wall and make my desk fit. Yeah. Um, So these are coming in at $1,800 for both of them. Not for both. Each of them. That's right. Yes, for each of them. Bracelet looks terrific. End link is female. There's one other aspect of these that you might not pick up on first glance. So the cannoli with its white dial has a black chapter ring with a red minute track. And it sits in a way that it almost makes it look like the dial floats on top of the chapter ring. I really, really like that. We've been talking about the Variante with its black dial. It's actually like a brown tropic dial. It continues straight into the minute track. So you don't get that... Yeah, really cool depth on the cannoli. You don't get that same level of intrigue. I like these both. I probably slightly prefer the cannoli. It's really clean, and I think these are terrific for $1,800 or whatever dollars. I think this is an interesting watch. I do feel like at that price they're missing maybe something. They're missing maybe something, maybe like a cost. I don't know. It seems to me like they're missing something, but I'm okay with it nonetheless. I don't know what it's missing. Me either, but it does feel like it's missing something. Maybe if it had better water resistance or if it was cost or if it just feels like at 1800 bucks. I want just one more, one more credential. But at 1275 thickness for an automatic chronograph, I'm going to, I'm going to say this is a valuable watch, a good contender, something I've never heard of. Okay. We got one more watch to talk about and I'm, and I'm excited to talk about it. I don't need you to talk about it because my link won't load. Ferrer. Ferrer. The British company Ferrer that we have talked about on the show many, many a time that we like that Andrew didn't like until he saw them in person and has become a true believer and a fan. I'm surprised he doesn't own a Ferrer. I've always really liked them and then seeing them in person, I became pure fangirl. So Farrah has released what they're calling the Lissom. Is that, are you going to? That's how I think I'm going to accept it being said also. There may be a harder I and a harder O, but we're going to say Lissom. Lissom, like a. Or like Lissom. Anyway, Lissom means, Lissom means, I think like thin and small or something like that. This is a dress watch. Yeah. It's a dress watch, but it's a sport watch. It's a sport watch in the form factor of a dress watch. And hear me out. 38 millimeters by 43 lug to lug. Exceptionally short lugs on this. And just a clawfoot downturn on those lugs. This thing is going to wear like it's nothing. And 7.95 millimeters thick. And I do like that they're dividing the millimeters into hundredths because that gets them under eight. They're under eight. They're not going to miss out on that spec sheet. These are really, really neat. And much like we would expect from Ferrer, they are... So their names on these, I tried to get them all straight. And now two hours later, I've lost them all. I have them. Okay, great. Arbor is the raspberry and purple. Balfour, jasmine white. Forest, teal and orange. Lindley, purple and powder blue. Solander, dark gray and black. And the forest and the solander. Which one's solander? All black. Yeah. It's gray and black. That is straight like dress watch feel. So, Andrew, I know that... I know. I know. I know. This is what Farrah does. I don't... There is not one of these dials that I genuinely love. Oh, this teal. Oh. I would like the teal if it didn't have a khaki accent. So, the sub-dial and the minutes are in, like, a tan or a khaki, and it ruins the watch for me. The raspberry? Beautiful. obviously beautiful but probably not something i'm gonna wear um the white dial with the blue the which is i believe they called the ball for It's the only one that has blue hands. It gives you like a marine vibe. I think that's the one I like the most. I don't like the gray sub dial. The gray small seconds. I know it. I wish they would have kept it white. I know it. So then I'm like, so then I'm at the black dial and I'm like, but fuck. I have to get a, I gotta get a fair with a black dial. Right.
Andrew So maybe not fair.
Everett Maybe not fair, right? This is what fairer... Maybe not fair to fairer. Fair to fairer. Let's be fair to fairer. This is what they do. I don't... But I find myself loving the watch, but not liking any of the combinations enough. Which, that's super subjective. That's me. That's me. But there's no standout for me, I don't think. I want something... None of these vibe. The only one that vibes, well, there's two that vibe. The black and the raspberry. But I don't want black, and I'm not going to wear a raspberry watch. Yeah, I don't want to buy a black Farer watch. Because you want the color. The purple dial with the teal sub-dial, like, okay, we're close. We're close. But I'm still not there. I want this watch the way I want this watch, because I love the watch. Mm-hmm. $1,200. $1,300 US dollars. Cheap, cheap, cheap D100 LJP hand-wound movement, which is fantastic. The size is great. Everything about these is good. There's no dial combo that I like. Well, since it is fairer... Wait six months. There will be eight more colorways. Look, guys, if you're listening and you want to talk, you want to consult, let's do it. Everett has ideas. I have ideas. This is maybe, I mean, if someone's going to buy a dress watch today and they don't want to spend, you know, fuck, this is so cool. Yeah, it's good. I just don't like any of the dial combos. And it's not bad. None of these are bad. They're all beautiful. I just don't want any of them. Okay. I'm shocked. I'm shocked because everything about this watch, I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, I can't find one I like. Which is weird, right? It's weird. I think maybe they did too much. I think they gave you, they presented you with too many options. It's not too many options. They did too much with all of the options. Maybe. I'm fine with five, but give me one that is not weird. well i don't know that any of them are weird they're all if the teal vibrant color combination if the teal didn't have khaki if the teal didn't have khaki on the sub dial it would be great they could have gone with silver they could have gone with white they could have gone with a blue they could have gone with fucking orange they could have gone with red khaki for whatever reason just feels like a total mismatch i think they didn't get enough orange saturation in it They call it orange. No, it's just the hand is orange. Right, but teal and orange is the colorway. I think they just need a little bit more orange saturation in that. If they're calling that sub-dial orange, they're stupid. That's tan. I don't think they're calling that orange. That's tan. All day. I don't know what to tell you, Everett. Besides, don't buy one. I know, but I want to buy one, Andrew. That's the problem. Me too. That's the problem. Andrew, other things. What do you got? I have another thing. So I know somebody out there doesn't like it when I talk about grilling. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait. Let's do a quick. This is the part of the show where we're going to talk about things that are not watches. If you don't want to hear about other things that we like, turn this fucking show off. Tune back in next Tuesday. We're going to stop. We're going to talk about grilling. For a moment. So I have a Masterbuilt Gravity series that is... It functions very similarly to a pellet grill, but it's a multi-fuel use. You can't use pellets in it because it would explode. It takes charcoal. You can mix in wood. So I've been on a quest to find the lump charcoal that I like the best because it creates less ash. I just feel like it tastes a little bit cleaner than charcoal. What is lump charcoal? So lump charcoal is very similar to charcoal briquettes, right? Except it's just burnt wood and compressed. Instead of being ground and compressed. Ground, compressed, and then squished together to be uniform with fillers. It's more expensive, but not by a lot. And I've tried, I don't know, 10 different brands or so. And I usually get like the 16-ish pound, like the normal size bag. And then run it through a couple times. What I'm really looking for is something that's going to run a couple bags through my gravity chimney. Just to see. Here's what I've settled on. And this is maybe what I should have just gone with originally. Because this is by and large one of the most... Like, this is the lump charcoal to get. This is the lump charcoal to get. And I don't always believe things like that. So I tried it myself. And I've finally done it. I have absolutely and without question settled on Jealous Devil Chunk XL Lump Charcoal. You get it at Home Depot. You can get it at Walmart, at Lowe's. You get it damn near everywhere. It burns super hot, it burns super clean. I've read some complaints about having trouble getting it lit. If you're managing your grill and keeping your stuff clean, it lights just fine. I use just a little master built fire starter brick on it, get it lit and it lights, it burns super hot, burns super clean. Are you using lighter fluid, Andrew? No. Because that's bad. I don't use any lighter fluid. I just put a little fire starter chunk in it, set it ablaze, and it is good to go. I get like... Running at 225 to 275, I get about an hour and some change per pound, which is pretty good. That's a low temp. Yeah, low temp. And when I grill, even at like 500, I'm still getting pretty good time on it. Burns super clean. And you've had a ton of shit off of my smoker. Everything is just a really clean smoke taste. And the other thing that I like about Lump is that it produces less ash because there's less fillers and less kind of junk. So it can all totally just burn itself off. Not to say there's no ash. There's certainly ash. Oh, there's certainly ash, but less than with briquettes. But this is the one. I've settled on it. This is my... This is my charcoal. I use Lump and I use Jealous Devil. Jealous Devil Chunk XL. Chunks XL. Big chunks. Like imagine the chunks of charcoal that you pull out of the fire pit after you go camping. Yeah. It's that. Cool. Love it. That's a good other thing. In short and sweet, I like that. I've got another thing. I'm going to send this to you now, assuming I can remember how to send things. I can. Like via text? My son is an enjoyer of Spam Musubi. I think everybody is kind of an enjoyer of Spam Musubi. Maybe not everybody, but everybody who's not dumb. Um, and he has been interested, you know, at 12 years old, he's been interested in making it at home and we've tried it a number of times and it's kind of hard to make spam musubi. It's hard for a grownup to make spam musubi. I think, you know, someone with all the coordination and cooking experience, it's just a fiddly thing to do. And he has tried it a couple times, and he's not a coordinated grown-up. And it's been a disaster, right? It still tastes fine. But it is not something that you are going to be interested in eating like a Musubi. You know, this is a fork. We're talking about Fork City, which is fine. We got him for his birthday. He just had a birthday. And we got him a sort of a, like... Yeah, but it's sort of like a joke gift. Almost like a gab gift. We found this thing on Amazon. It was $10. It had good reviews. A lot of good reviews, by the way. 414 reviews at 4.7 stars on Amazon. Chinese, obviously Chinese. The brand name is... You're a Jew. It's AI brand. This is AI created. We had very low expectations for this thing. I did not expect it to be well made. I did not expect it to be quality. Both of those things, well, it's fine enough made. It's not high quality. It's a $10. But... He has been cranking out excellent spam musubi since getting these things. So it came with the slicer also? It comes with a slicer and it comes with rice molds. I have one that's just the mold and I got it for myself very deliberately because it's hard to get it pressed right. Yes. And I was really tired of going and getting my tin snips. and cutting down the can of Spam to use as my rice mold. So I was like, I'm just going to get one. It doesn't have a slicer. And the slicer is maybe one of the harder parts, like uniformly slicing a block of Spam. This is a little tricky. It's like an egg. So there'll be a link to this in the show notes. But the slicer is like an egg slicer. It's wire. It's the wires, suspended wires, guillotine. It'll break. It's going to break. But for $10, it works really well. It makes consistent, uniform slices of Spam, which is something he struggled with, something I struggle with. It is terrific. It takes probably about 10 minutes, tip to tail, to make six or seven Spam musubis, and they're all uniform, and they're all terrific. this thing's awesome. It is awesome. My 12-year-old son has just been cranking out Spam Musubis maybe once a week or so. Buying flats of Musubi at Costco now or of Spam at Costco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll be like, yeah, I'm going to make Spam Musubi. And we're like, yeah, kid, do it. Also, word to the wise, if you're going to buy this thing and say, yeah, I'm going to do this at home, you're going to make six or seven of these things? You're going to be tempted to have more than one. And you will. And you will. And then you'll realize never again. And then the next time you'll do two again. And you're going to say to yourself never again. But it's like a Costco hot dog. Yep. It is a big mistake. It is a mistake that will stick with you for 12 hours. Do not do it. Spam musubi is best consumed in single doses. Do not... I mean, if you're really hungry or maybe that's your meal, you could do two. But you will remember for many hours that you've had two Spam Musubis.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Just do one.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Just do one. Like, also, you don't want to preserve your insides. Just do one. But this thing's terrific. Use it for a group. Make five or six. Or also, Spam Musubi fridge really well. Yeah, if you just wrap them in some plastic wrap, give it a little spin. They eat better at room temperature, but they fridge really well. They fridge really well. Because it's rice and spam. That's right. That's right. And the spam actually helps the rice not get weird. You know, with the saran wrap that seals the moisture in, and the spam actually infuses the rice with a little bit of like... The nori gets a little weird. moisture the nori gets weird sure but whatever the nori is just a binder yeah anyway this 10 bucks it's in the show notes buy it if you're interested at all if you're like ew spam is gross then just stop fucking listening to my show get some spam get some japanese barbecue sauce andrew uh here we are for a cocky on there here we are here we are once again anything you want to add before we go no i've added all the things Hey folks, thanks for tuning in to this episode of 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast. Do me a favor, go to our website. That's watchclicker.com. We actually do very little to maintain the website. That all goes to Will and Furry and our writers. We just do this every week, but that's our website. Right? Yeah. If you want to follow us on social media, you can do that on Instagram at 40and20 underscore watch clicker or at watch clicker. We post pictures and updates and other things on those two pages. If you want to support us, and oh boy, we hope you do, you can do that at patreon.com slash 40and20. That's actually how we keep this thing going. If we didn't have Patreon, we wouldn't be going because we wouldn't be able to afford it. Yeah, our wives would not let us do this. If you're supporting us, thank you. If not... Go in, check us out, maybe drop a buck. And don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour. Don't forget to tune back in next Tuesday for another hour of Watches, Food, Drinks, Life, and other things we like. Bye-bye.