The Most Perfect Doxa Ever? (335)

Published on Tue, 01 Apr 2025 08:13:58 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of The Watch Clicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss several new watch releases and developments in the watch world. They begin by covering Neil Armstrong's gold Speedmaster going to auction, expected to fetch over $2 million. They review new releases including the Breitling Top Time B31, Christopher Ward's collaboration with Mr. Jones, Maurice Lacroix's 1975 collection, and DOXA's Sub 250T GMT. The hosts also discuss the Alto Falcon Eye watch and a collaboration between YouTuber Nico Leonard and Maine watches. The episode concludes with a discussion about cooking with specialty ingredients, particularly focusing on Shaoxing wine in Chinese cooking, and Andrew's experience watching The Expanse TV series after reading the books.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 1420 The Watch Clicker Podcast with your host Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, what did I do? I don't know. There was just, you had a cadence that made me chuckle. It's because the music got quiet so fast. This is on you. This isn't on me. This is a you thing. start again bitches uh everett how are you hi so i was trying to mess up my introduction that is always perfectly executed hi i'm sorry do you want to be i didn't mean to do that i was trying to come up with a good yeah i was trying to come up with a good like sound effect for this you even unmuted your snort laugh They're excited. We're having one of these days. Uh, Andrew, I'm well, I'm well. I, um, I'm going to central Oregon tomorrow. I'm leaving. So we're recording a little bit out of order, um, outside of our normal time. Certainly. Uh, I'm going to golf this weekend. But I'm going to the place in the state that is, up until about two weeks ago, almost entirely snowbound. So that's gonna be weird. We did find courses, three courses that are open. So they're sufficiently post-thaw to be open. There's a printer. Yeah, what? Are you printing documents? I'm not sure. I'm gonna go turn that off. Yeah, it seems like a good idea. We'll be right back with you. That was weird, it was very much like the printer became sentient and just woke up. We've received our first ever fax at the 40 and 20 studio. Yeah, while on air and the fax says. It's actually just a picture of a taint that's been smushed up against a Xerox window, it's weird. Well played y'all. It was mine. I did it.
Everett Yeah, Andrew, how are you?
Andrew Well, no, it's so you're going to Central Oregon. We tried to golf there a couple years ago Yeah, that's right. And it was it was actually like appropriate weather for it and it was the same week a couple years ago and then two days before it just dumb we got a bucket load of snow the night we got there. We got like another foot or so of snow. Yeah. And the golf course was like, no, you cannot.
Everett Yeah. We're not.
Andrew I don't care if you have a neon ball, you can't come and play on our course. Uh, so it turns out March is a little early in the year to go golf in some river. The good news is we should have dry weather the entire time we're there. It's high desert, so it'll be relatively dry. The ground, I mean, will be relatively dry. And it's gonna be cold, but it's gonna be... That's perfect golfing weather. Fine, yeah. It might be a little cold for perfect golfing weather, but... I want like 45... Yeah. And dry. I think we're going to be 40 most days, um, which is fine. That's pretty cold for me to play golf in, but, um, we'll be fine.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew You'll find a way. We will. We will. It's called bourbon. Uh, yeah, but that's, so that's, I'm leaving in the morning, uh, for that, which is exciting. It's my first, uh, golf of the year.
Everett Nice. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah, I've never been to the driving range. I meant to do that and it's just Not happened. Yeah, it gets away from you. Yeah. How are you Andrew? I'm good. I saw Hamilton this week and it was fantastic so the current cast actually has a Eugene native. Yeah, great in the cast. He is fantastic fantastic he plays the Jefferson Lafayette combo yeah which was super fun I think this cast this cast was really interesting and that they leaned heavily into the hip-hop feeling voices for much of the cast which I liked a lot. Yeah. It's gotten, it's gotten rapier, uh, over the years. It used to be a little bit more sing songy and it's gotten rap. Yeah. It's gotten, it's gotten more, more rappy. Uh, I did not. like the guy they chose to play George Washington. Oh yeah, I know who he is and he's not my favorite. And I really liked his voice. I liked his acting a lot. I just didn't think he was an imposing enough character. And this is sizist on me. I'm not a tall guy. I'm not well-equipped to play George Washington. Nor is he. You can't be George Washington at five foot six, even though he had the voice, he had the acting, he had even the demeanor. It's just, he wasn't, if you just scaled him up, he'd have been a perfect George Washington. It's just, I struggled to like, I struggled to see George Washington towered over by the characters around him. Other than that, it was just fantastic. We walked into the theater and I saw the set and I audibly gasped and my wife was like, what's up? And I was like, it's the set, I see it, it's there. It was fantastic. It was a lot of fun. The sound mixing was a little off in the theater. And I don't know if it was just because of where we were seated, but the lyrics were kind of washed out by the rest of the audio. And I don't know if they'll be able to clean that up with their sound mixing over their performances, or if that's just kind of the nature of live theater. Yeah, the lyrics were kind of washed by the orchestra. So regardless, it was a lot of fun. Today got a little weird. I was like just puttering around the house, kind of infirmed. I did a bucket load of yard work yesterday. My wife calls and was like, hey, Calvin just threw up a bunch at school, so I'm bringing him home. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. He brought him home. First she brought him home and he threw up a bunch more and one time he... made it to the bathroom and that was it. Like, he didn't make it to the toilet. He just made it to the bathroom and then just stood there and was like, what do I do? Like, well, let's just put some newspaper down on top of that bed. Well, we got this and. Oh, poor guy. Is he sleeping now? Oh, he's been asleep. Yeah. Yeah. He's he, yeah. He put himself to bed. Yeah, he has to watch Star Wars We watch some Star Wars and then I was like, I think I need to go to bed and I was like, you know What know yourself? Yeah, that's good. So he's been in bed for Many hours at this point No, well, good for him.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Well, well, we're not here to talk about plays, musicals, even, or Puke and Kids, rather, we're here to talk about watches. And so we shall. Andrew, we didn't have quite as many days in between our last recording and this recording, which I was a touch nervous about. We did, I think, pick almost the same exact watches, although we had a significant amount of overlap. You failed to pick a watch that is the most interesting watch of the week. Nope, I'm going to start. I'm going to start. Neil Armstrong's gold Speedmaster. No, not that one. Is going to auction this April, and this is the first Neil Armstrong watch. This isn't his Moon watch. This is his all gold Omega Speedmaster gift that he received from NASA. So this isn't his Moon watch, but it is an Omega Speedmaster Moon watch in all gold. It is Neil's. It is going to auction. This is the first, if I'm not mistaken, the first Neil Armstrong watch going to auction ever. And this is cool. And this is going to fetch a bucket load. Um, yeah, I'm going to bid on it. I think I'm going to bid too, but I'm, you know, just to say that I did, you know, the nice thing is you could like throw out a million dollar bid, not have to worry about it. Yeah. There's no, there's no consequences for it. Oh, 500,000 books. I was like, Oh, got it. So you can bid that and you won't get it. But a cool thing going to auction through RR Auctions, which usually this is like a Sotheby's piece, like something like this, I imagine goes through Sotheby's and it's not, which was curious. But a cool thing happening in the world of collectible watches. uh estimated two two million dollars um it's gonna get more than that um yeah i don't know and i i do i do want to read the inscription on the back it says uh Astronaut Neil A. Armstrong, and then Gemini 8, Apollo 11. And then it says, to mark man's conquest of space with time through time on time, which I think is fun. This is the 17th of, I believe, 28 of these that were made. The first two were offered to Nixon and Agnew, although they had to decline. Um, and the rest of the 26 watches going to people involved in the Apollo eight program. Yeah. And the Apollo program. So the first one that go to sale was, uh, was Michael Collins who was, uh, he was an Apollo, uh, 11 astronaut. Um, yeah. This is cool. They're pretty cool. It's a cool gift from Omega to the astronauts because the Speedmasters that the astronauts wore in space were NASA property and were returned to NASA. So Omega gifted these 26 gold Omega Speedmasters to various important members of the Apollo program. Yeah. Including the president, though he was not an astronaut. Yeah. Well, definitely a space case though. Yeah, I don't know. So that's the first thing we're going to talk about because it's just some news and we're going to get through it and we're going to get through it. We are. And and now we're on to the next thing. I you know what I was gonna talk about that, but I think I want to save it So instead I will talk about Breitling because we said last week That we don't talk about Breitling because Breitling watches kind of suck and saw Breitling in the wild certainly Hamilton a hundred percent Breitling's gonna fuck up the Galet release blah blah. We didn't actually say that but we did mean to say that we lamented that they will anyway Breitling introduced, I think, a cool watch. Although, okay, I'll come back to this. So the Breitling Top Time B31. This is a new iteration of the Top Time collection released in 2020, or initially released in 2020, as a series of chronographs. which have, Breitling's used primarily for collabs, so Ford collabs, Triumph collabs. And I actually have suggested that Breitling's leaning on the collab thing right now is problematic, but whatever. The TomTom's a cool watch, it's a chronograph, it's fine. They released a three-hand, 38 millimeter B31. And I think it's kind of dope. It is. I think it's kind of dope. 10 three thick, which is great. It's not, well, it's good. 13.3 is the profile on the chronographs. This is significantly thinner. 45 mil, 45.8 lug to lug, 38 millimeter diameter. 20 meter lugs, 20 millimeter lugs. This is an interesting watch. It's almost like Breitling saw that every other brand has a small, medium sport watch. And they were like, oh. Yeah, what are we doing? What? We should have one too. We only have the Navitimer. Yeah. That people want. And then we've got all this other stuff that arms dealers and weirdos like. Let's give the people something else that they might want. So. they release this. This is good. It is good. It is good. Um, you know, the top times kind of known for, you know, because I think of the collaboration aspect of the top time, it's kind of known for, It's colors and this new top time be 31. These releases are no different We've got some white dials with like a blue minute track on the outside These great it almost looks like a sapphire black inset minute track. Oh Yeah, I'm not sure, Andrew, and actually, I'm having a little... I'm looking for that. I'm having a little bit of trouble with the photographs. Because you can see on the white dial, it almost looks like a Sapphire Minitrack. And so it is an internal, like, sort of Minitrack bezel. which doesn't rotate or anything. I don't know. It's a design. It's not my favorite part of the watch, but we've got a magnifier over the date at three o'clock. We've got chronometer top time and decent fonts at six. Breitling 1884 with the sort of cursive B logo at 12. Great handset. A handset that tracks the markers, like sort of one-to-one. You know, it's hard to get excited about this watch. Oh, and they come on sort of the slanty Breitling oyster, whatever they call their oyster style bracelet. It's really, I find it unlikely that anyone's going to get too excited about this watch, but it's really just a very simple, straightforward and good watch. You know, but then I was looking at this thing and I was like, what does this remind me of? I feel like this reminds me of something. It reminds me of a micro brand watch, Andrew. Yeah. It kind of reminds me of what's the name of the fairly recent notice release like their ceramic or not their, their Sapphire bezeled, uh, Hmm, I'm not sure. But it's internal. Yeah, this is an internal. Yeah, that bezel is internal. Non-rotating internal bezel. What the hell is that watch called? What do you need to know? You need to know that the Muv-Ming movement... Muv-Ming? Muv-Ming. The Muv-Ming is a Breitling B31 in-house automatic. The Unity. It kind of reminds me of the Unity. The Unity.
Everett Okay, it's bigger than the Unity.
Andrew It's, you know, it's significantly bigger than Unity, but the design... is kind of small brandy. I think the B31 is based on a Sellita movement or perhaps an ETA movement, but it is Cosk. Yeah, it does feel to me very much like a microbrand watch. So, you know, a notice or perhaps a, you know, a main or something, you know, I couldn't really put my finger on it. And so then I'm like, well, 5,000 bucks. Like, okay.
Everett For a Breitling though.
Andrew I mean, it's, that's the thing is it, it doesn't immediately immediately look like a Breitling. You're not going to have the rubber strap with Breitling in the entirety of the both straps written well like the big print yeah the big print that was the Breitling I saw in the wild I looked at it I was like it kind of looks like a Breitling and the guy kind of rotated away from me with his wrist and you could just see Breitling stamped in the strap and I was like Breitling in the wild You're not an arms dealer, I think. Anyway, I think these are fine. They are good, even. Maybe not good enough. And so, I don't know. Again, I thought, oh, yeah, Breitling's cool. I'm not sure they are. I think not good enough. I think we're hypercritical of brands like Breitling. Like, I don't think Breitling could do anything cool enough for you. They do the Navitimer. I don't think they could do anything cool. I think they're just a shitty price point. Maybe. Like this isn't a $5,000 watch to me. Like there's nothing about this watch. Like if I got $5,000, this is like 62nd on a list of watches that I'm gonna buy. I don't think it's even that high for me. I mean, what? Like, I know they're not anything alike, but do you buy this over a Mark 20? No, I sure as shit don't. I don't think you buy this over most IWCs. Like, the whole Zodiac catalog, the whole Aorus catalog, the whole, like, yeah. And this doesn't even make 60 second on a list. There's less than $5000 watches that. Or higher on the list of my $5000 budget. Yeah, I mean. Black Bay 36 I'm buying a launching. Everything I'm buying, yeah, for less money. You could even get into a use Speedmaster for less money like a launching spirit. Is I think half of the price of this the three hand is any ball watch? I'm not buying a ball watch. I'm getting a ball skin diver Over over this how many how many grand seikos are there? That you could buy instead of this bright a handful I'm buying and every single one of them that you could buy. I'm buying over this. Yeah Yeah, so I don't know man. It's just a tough spot. They're in a tough spot. I think Yeah. It's a cool watch though. It's not a $5,000 cool. Why? I think that's what, I think that's the deal. I think that's, that's, that's how I feel. It's intriguing. I, it sort of makes me wonder what, um, what else Breitling might be up to, uh, kind of in light of the Gallet acquisition, like, are they going to play a little bit more at the, at the 5,000 at the Breitling price point? And then kind of like, hey, we also have this cool shit at the Galet price point. Well, George Kern has already said, we're going to bring out Galet at three to 5,000 francs. Yeah. Which suggests to me that they're totally comfortable with their push of Breitling to the five plus. And this watch coming in at a conveniently $5,000 figure suggests to me that this is the floor for Breitling, which in turn suggests to me that I'm never buying a fucking Breitling. I'm probably gonna get it out of time or something. Me too. Fuck. Alright. What's next? Uh, okay. For me... Oh, we have a cool Christopher Ward release! Yeah, we do.
Everett Mr. Jones and me.
Andrew Yeah, so Mr. Jones. That's what Christopher Ward sang when he showed everybody this watch for the first time. I probably, I imagine Mike France in a trench coat, no clothes, just a trench coat. Singing Mr. Jones. Singing Mr. Jones. And this is a purely art dialed, moon phase, celestial watch. It's on the, oh gosh, what platform is this on? Let me just give you the specs. It's a 37 millimeter case, 13.1 thick, 44 lug to lug, 30 meters water resistance, a Caliber JJ-04, which is a Sellita-based upgrade. 300 of these being produced, 2,600 bucks. The dial is this kind of... Hmm. kind of like Japanese wavy cloud feel artwork against like a children's cartoon. realism, really beautiful blues in these clouds, a great moon stars kind of lining from the crystal down in the different layers of this dial, a sleepy moon. Uh, it's like, They've done such a fascinating job layering depth into this dial because it starts right on the underside of the crystal and then just works its way in layers down into the dial with shit on the crystal creating shadows into the dial. It is gorgeous. Yeah. No, I'm with you, Andrew. It's a really fun watch. It's whimsical. It is adorable. It's also really interesting. So you referred to the movement. So the movement's actually just a standard Selita 220-1, but it's got Christopher Ward's in-house developed Moonphase module on the 220. So elaborated grade 220-1 with Christopher Ward's JJ04 And it's an interesting moon phase module. What it does is it links the moon to the hour hand so that both the moon and the hour are constantly moving together. There's an interesting aspect to this, which is that it's a perpetual moon phase. So if you were to keep this wound, constantly for 138 years, it would consistently track the moon, the phases of the moon, which is a little wild. I don't fully understand how that works because there's such a big open space. Yeah. From like the 10 to two. Yeah. I don't know exactly how it works either. It, it, it steps down the moon. And so the moon is at different levels of exposure and it waxes on one side and wanes on the other. So, um, yeah, I don't get it. Me either, but we don't need to, we don't need to get it. Time here is interesting. Time is tracked by two birds. There's a hour bird and a minute bird and they, perhaps they flutter around the outside of the dial. I think they actually just rotate. They look to be the same. No, the hour bird is just a little bit. closer to the center of the dial. Yes, indeed it is. So legibility wise, you're not telling time with this watch. Yeah, no one is marking the legibility, but it is adorable. Yeah, you're not managing train schedules with this thing. It is adorable. And just the moon is loomed. So the evening mode or the night mode on this is just very clever. Caseback has printed more clouds, sleepy moons, more birds on the Sapphire Caseback. I do think that this, so they had a competition. They had Mr. Jones had a internal competition and an assembly technician named B Watts won. This is her B Watts design, which is fun. It's fun. It's cute. It's whimsical. I like it. It's lovely. Yes. Um, Maurice Lacroix? Hmm. Uh, yeah. Or is it Lacroix? Lacroix? I think it's Pamplemousse. Pamplemousse? Yeah. Uh, they've got a new watch. Maurice Lacroix, I feel like I should like them, and I oftentimes don't. The Icon is, I think, probably their flagship watch. And there's just something about it that I'm like, meh. It's just a brand that never catches my attention.
Everett Meh.
Andrew But we've now got the Maurice Lacroix 1975, which refers to the year Maurice Lacroix first became a brand. It was sort of a sub-brand back then. What we've got is a 36 or a 40 millimeter three-hand watch that is about as simple as they come. uh, each of them are 10 millimeters in height, a hundred meters of water resistance. They come on a beads of rice or a strap and well, I like it. I do too. I really like it. And I like it. It's an SW 200. It's again, it is just as simple as they come. I said beets of rice, but it's a Jubilee. Yeah, I was going to say it's a five row. This is more Jubilee than beets of rice. You're right. And you, and you know what, Andrew, you know what? It's not $5,000. No, it's not. Rather these are 1400 or 1500 euro whether you get that on leather or a steel bracelet Just get it on the bracelet get it on the bracelet Even if you want it on a strap get it on the bracelet and put it on a strap Yeah, cuz this bracelet looks really good this this has like King Seiko vibes to me like this 1970s ton of high polished angles. This is a Banger it's a banger You can get it on a blue sunray dial, silver sunray dial, or a black glossy dial, which is a fantastic lineup. The one. It's a fantastic lineup. And the black is the one. The black is the one. And they're affordable, and they're good, and I mean, yeah. Yeah.
Everett I've got nothing else to say.
Andrew For a sport watch like this, it's got all the things, right? It is highly refined, great polish, 1,500 bucks, 100 meters of water resistance. This is money. If there's a criticism, it's that they have, for some people, probably, one of these is a little too big and one of these is a little too small. And for a sport watch, it doesn't look like there's any loom anywhere. No, I don't think so. I don't think there is. Which is problematic for a sport watch, like for a watch of this design, you deserve some loom somewhere for it to be a- I think there's a decision been made there. But this isn't a dress watch. No, why not? It's a 10 millimeter, sporty dress, but this is 2025. No, I get that. But this, this isn't a by design dress watch. And as a result, it should have some loom.
Everett It just should.
Andrew I really do like it though. And I, I mean, I, If I don't have lume on my watch, I just use my phone. I would like to say more. I would like to say more, but I can't, there's just nothing to say. Because it's perfectly boring. You know, sorry, there is one other thing to say. The crown on this is terrific. It's a good crown.
Everett It's a really good crown.
Andrew It's like sort of just a typical cylinder with a button. But it flares a little bit. It's got like a bit of an onion flare to it. Just a little, it's just a little like. Grab me. Yeah. Something to get a little purchase on. This feels very much like a watch that could have come out in 1970. Yeah. Like, or perhaps 19- And no Fotina on it, it's just- 1982. Yeah, and this is, I think, a watch having a little bit of an identity crisis. Like, is it a dress watch, is it a sport watch? Like, if you were going through your dad's shit and you found some watch that he picked up, like, maybe in the early 90s and didn't really wear, It could be this watch. Mm-hmm.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Right? Yeah, 100%. I like it. I like it. I'm here for it. I don't like the Maurice LeCroy stamp on the leather. Oh, yeah.
Everett On their leather strap. That's stupid. I don't like that either.
Andrew But you're not gonna get it on the leather you can't get on a bracelet because because we told you so because it's you should get this on a bracelet because on a Bracelet, it looks really good and then just go to deluxe and buy yourself. Uh, yeah Marissa Croy has managed to impress me with the most boring watch ever Made way to go maritz I'm here for it. Uh, I literally ever been it's the most Perhaps, because it has no loom. I'm next, right? Well, if you want to be. DOXA sub 250 T. No, why are you going to take the DOXA? Why are you going to take the DOXA? 250 T GMT. So we have a- I call it bibs. GMT returning into the DOXA sphere. There have been GMTs in the past. For the first time in 20 years. Yeah. It doesn't, I mean, Whatever. First time in 20 years, there is a GMT back into the mix. This is going to be a permanent catalog edition. Twenty four hundred fifty bucks because it's a Doxa and you pay that much for a Doxa. Kind of it's you pay the two hundred is fifteen hundred or sixteen hundred. So the two hundred T is sixteen hundred. This is a thousand extra dollars for a fourth hand. Yeah, there's been a new case. Yeah, whole new case. It's a 40 millimeter case and the 200 T is Is the 240 millimeter or is it 38? The 200T is 39. Yeah. It's 39. So a whole new case, 40 millimeter case, 10.85 thick. You heard it here. You can achieve 250 meters of water resistance with a GMT movement and keep it sub 11 everyone. Doc says not even trying to be small. They small, they small. Yeah. Sub 11, 42, nine lug to lug. Uh, the, the full suite of Doxa color combinations available with nine. Um, what don't they have? They're going with that jade green again. Well, they're doing nine dial colors. So you get all of the colors. Jade green, a silver, yellow, turquoise, blue, orange, white, black, and then that kind of charcoal-y sunburst brown. Yeah, so the charcoal-y sunburst brown is called, what is it called? It's called Shark Hunter. vintage vintage right and so that so it's like sort of a tropical like and so you've got some fotina on this it's meant to be a tropical dial I believe yeah it would it would be awkward to be anything besides that but Um, there's one other difference in the, did you notice this? So the, the shark hunter vintage has a, the GMT hand is a prototypical GMT hand white with a red arrow. The GMT hands on all of the rest of them are sticks are no, it's a skeletonized minute hand. So each of these, each of these colors, all of the eight. Are they skeleton? Have a skeletonized minute hand for the GMT hand. Oh. But the Shark Hunter Vintage has a slightly different, well, it's got like a sort of.
Everett An arrow.
Andrew An arrow, a typical GMT hand. A normal GMT hand. Which is a very, very odd, I find it to be a very odd detail. I like it. I'm not objecting to it. I'm just pointing it out. I'm just doing the Lord's work here. I like these. What's not to like, Andrew? Nothing, nothing's not to like. The Shark Hunter Black is phenomenal. I'm in the I'm in a doxa zone here so. I don't know. I don't. I don't know if this you slurps the 300 T for me. I don't. I don't know if these fonts are the fonts that doxa always uses, but do you see the five in the 250 T? Looking. Yeah, I think this is the best picture to see zoom in on that picture that it has got like the five and and kind of the two but really just the five has this like okay corral vibe to it and I'm like Holy shit, I might buy this watch just for the five in the 250t in in the logo at the Yeah at the six o'clock because it's just Fantastic. It's fantastic. There's zero bad things I will ever say about this watch unless like People get them and they start blowing up when they get rear-ended or something. I will never utter a bad word about this watch So this the bezel on the turquoise has color match. Oh, yeah on the bezel. Oh, yeah It's the only one that has that. Oh, yeah No, they all have that Oh yeah, they do. Well, the yellow and the turquoise.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Well, the rest have orange or black. No. So the yellow and the turquoise are matched and the orange are matched at six o'clock. Uh, the Caribbean is matched at 12 o'clock. The white, the pearl white, which is a beautiful color and the jade are matched at six o'clock. The only one that doesn't have an Andrew is the silver, the sea wrangler. No. OK, the the black is all what? Oh, you're talking about on the bezel on the bezel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, my fault. It's just the yellow and turquoise that are color matched on the bezel. Yeah, but I, I, I can't call that color matched if everyone else also has orange. The Pro has orange, but so too does the Silver and the Shark Hunter. But you know what that means to me? That means that at each of these watches, someone made decisions, which I like. Yes. It wasn't just like, just do it this way. It was like, no, no, you know what? It looks, this one looks better this way. The Caribbean looks really good. The Caribbean's good. Yeah. yeah uh you know me shark hunter but i actually i don't know here i'm not sure with this with this release i i've always been a shark hunter guy with this release i think it's maybe caribbean or that pearl white shit yeah the pearls gotta catch them all yeah i mean maybe that's it maybe we just become doxa collectors not me okay um what else do we have so we've got that weird falcons i watched that you wanted to talk about the armenstrom ew okay so i'll just talk about this one uh beta Beda. Beda? Beda? Beda? So there's a Qatari watch brand that came out, I believe last year, either Beda or Beda. They came out with a really cool watch last year called the Eclipse. And I remember reading about it. We didn't talk about it on the show. I don't know if it was just like, I think it was just cut from our list. We didn't get to it or whatever. Um, but it had a jumping hour display or, uh, uh, they called it what mysterious minute jumping hour display. Really cool watch. Uh, they have released their, uh, follow-up, to the Eclipse One and they're calling it the Eclipse Two. What? This is a Qatari brand or at least a Qatari based owner making Swiss watches and they're really cool. They are really cool. So what we have is a digital hour, uh, excuse me, uh, a digital hour display and a jumping, a digital jumping hour display.
Everett There we go. There it is.
Andrew Yeah. Um, and with minutes and seconds, with minutes and seconds displayed by hand by hand at 12 and six o'clock respectively. Uh, fuck. So it's got like a regulator layout. Um, this really like, I don't know. dynamic dial and then that jumping hour display it's got like sort of a gold sun ray dial with an aventurine minutes display and a radial brush or excuse me a circular brushed sub second sub dot or sub dial for the seconds And a six o'clock bullhead crown. It's just making my fucking brain go crazy. And the dial is absolutely phenomenal. I'm down with the six o'clock really deeply recessed crown. The lugs on this thing are wild, wild. I think I hate them. Oh, I love them. Huge. They are big. And they sort of like sweep down. They're long. And I think if you pulled the strap off of this, it would sit up on the lugs. They would hit that table flat. It's just a really difference. It's like a platform. This motherfucker's a table. Yeah, that's right. That's right. 904L steel, 37 millimeter case. It's got a BJM01 movement which is an SW300 Base, which is a 2892 clone. Anyway. This is fucking nuts, and it's only 4,000 bucks. And it's 4,000 francs. Francs, yeah, so 4,400 bucks or so. Yeah. Looking at this watch, this immediately to me looked like a $10,000. It looked to me like a $50,000 watch. When I saw this, I almost didn't even pull it up, because I was like, that's a $50,000 watch. But it's not. It's a four. This thing's nuts, dude. The size on it's gonna be great. Even with those weird, huge lugs, this is gonna, this would wear super comfortably. And it's just like, this is just cool. It's wild. This is a wild watch, man. Just cool, the longest lugs you've ever seen. And what's the lug to lug on this? It's not, I mean, it's big, but. On a 37 millimeter case. 37 millimeters under 10, you're not going to get a lot of water resistance here, 30 meters. But just like a paddock. This is cool, dude. Yeah, it's gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous. And that's all I have to say about that. What's next? Okay. Uh, so I want to talk just even briefly about an interesting looking watch from the brand called Alto. So Alto has made a square watch. We'll call a square, I think. I don't know. It's an optical illusion. It is.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. The model is the Art A.R.T. 01 Falcon Eye. It's a 41mm case, 50m water resistance, 3N yellow gold sapphire crystal, a caliber A.O.1, les cercles d'auralage, micro rotor, They're only making 12 of them. They're 61,500 euros. Uh, and, and the boring stuff is now over. This is a weird collision of watch and jewelry, so it has this stepped precious metal and stone scale, scale-y dial that looks like you're just staring into the abyss. Even when you zoom in on it, even the box crystal doesn't do anything to disrupt, just staring into a pit It's like looking into a mirror of a mirror of a mirror of a mirror with these little steps going down into the dial. And I saw this thing and I was like, man, that thing is just cool as shit. It looks like it should be a digital watch. It's not. But it's a jewelry, trendy fashion. expensive celebrity watch. I saw this watch earlier and then I had to call my mom to come pick me up at school because I puked everywhere. That's how I felt. I was like, sorry, no, no. In fact, I'm going to take this entire section out of the recording when I edit because I hate this watch so much. Backwards running secondhand. This is just, I'm just clipping it.
Everett This watch is just a trip.
Andrew All right, well then next up, how much is this? It's a 70 61 61,000. There's only 12. I don't care how many they are. Oh, okay. The one thing I like about this watch, I'll tell you what I like about this watch. The model. in the pictures. She's cute. Uh, no, that's not what I like about this watch. What I like about this watch is if I ever see anyone wearing it, I will know to avoid them. Yeah. Because they suck. This is a beacon. Yeah. It's like, yeah, that's look at the, look at the Swiss made at six o'clock. Oh, it's not at six o'clock. It's offset. And just like you, just like the branding at the 12 o'clock is offset alto. I hate it. Everything about this watch is disorienting, and I cannot imagine how troubling it would be for me to look at my watch and watch the second hand going in the wrong direction. I wouldn't even be able to look at my watch. I wouldn't even want to have it in the same room as me. I couldn't deal with it. It's got a cool movement. It does have a cool movement, because it has a backwards second hand. It's got a cool movement. OK, my favorite release. And I think this just came out today. I saw pictures of it online and I was like, whoa. So Nico Leonard is a, I don't know, I think a YouTuber known for being sort of opinionated and loud mouthed. This looks a lot like the Falcon Eye. Yeah, no. So Nico Leonard is sort of like this, like, I've got strong opinions about expensive watches guy and he's charming and he's good and smart. Maybe not my favorite YouTuber, but I don't really watch YouTube watch stuff anymore. With that said, he teamed up with Maine, which is a Dutch micro brand. And Nico Leonard, also Dutch. And they teamed up, they collaborated, they worked together, they synergized their skill sets. Synergy. To make a- That's one of my least favorite words in the world. When people say synergy, I immediately trust them and believe them less. Well, there is some synergy here. This is a classic. Jumping our digital, all FP Jordan vagabond. Yeah. This thing is fucking rad. OG digital dragging minutes. Just cool as shit. Perfectly sized. 34 millimeters, nine seven thick, um, a six screw case back with a remarkable 50 meters of water resistance. It is excellent. It is an excellent looking watch with a anodized plate, a really attractive anodized plate, a modified Seagull ST1721 movement, which some people might say Seagull, but hear me out. It makes sense here because they're keeping it under a thousand money. That's right. This, this, like you look at this and this is a 25, $30,000 watch and it's not, we've got a jumping hour minutes on a disc. No small seconds. Don't need them because the minutes drag. Butterfly Clasp on rubber, FKM, and it's terrific. It is terrific. Black, red, green, and? 999 euro. They'll be available April 7th through April 13th, which is a limited, it's a limited sales window release. I like those releases. It's much preferable to a limited number. Yeah, this thing is just totally, totally good. Yeah, it's money. It's not a rectangle. It's just like a slightly chubby in the middle rectangular case. This is a cool, cool collaboration. Yeah, I agree. It's terrific. Um, and there are other watches that, that look like this. Uh, I want to say that I'm not sure how you pronounce the name, but there's a, a company called Zentier that came out with, uh, a jumping hour TV dial, very similar to this in the last, a couple of years. We've seen a couple of these in the last two, three years, because this is an intro, this is a movement that, or like a style that people are kind of playing with. I like the case on this much better than I like, the one, the Zentire, the TV dial, I wasn't a huge fan. The case on this, I think it's just fantastic. This is a terrific. It's really good, super high polish everywhere, a nice, like brush, brush, brush, polish combo. And I think they did a good job with that. The, the bevel on the case edge is fantastic. The transitions really nicely into another polished edge and then into the brush is really good. And the striations on the FKM strap, like just create this really long, Appearance of of your dial. It's this is good. I don't hate these lugs Hmm. No, the lugs are weird though. They are weird. They're kind of bulbous.
Everett Mm-hmm
Andrew but I don't hate them. This is a chunky case, like very slab-sided, but it's not big. It's not big, yeah, it's sub-10. It's just because of the relatively narrow X dimension that I think it makes it the profile, but it's small enough that I don't actually think it would feel oversized. No, no, no, no, not by a long shot. That's my guess. Yeah, this'll wear super comfortably. And or any other watches that you want to talk about there's one watch left on our On our list, but I'm gonna just let you know I already deleted the tab if you talk about it I'm gonna make fun of it merciless and I deleted the tab because it was on the list I was like kind of intrigued and then not just sent the link anyway, and then went to sleep. Oh I took a little nap. You woke me up politely. I'm glad the door wasn't locked. Well, with that in mind, other things, what do you got? Uh, so we talked, um, off air about... No, we didn't. We don't talk off air. Specialty... You guys hear everything. Specialty ingredients in cooking. And you kind of pissed and moaned. You're like, I don't want to have that in my pantry. I only use it one time. Oh, you do a really good me impression. I do. Thank you. I've been, I've been working on it for a decade. Um, cause we've been friends for 15 years longer than that. Yeah. We met in 2008 Andrew. So that's like 18 years, 17 years, a long fucking time. Uh, anyway, We, you were pissing and moaning about having specialty ingredients and I was like, I kind of get down with like, oh, that's a weird ingredient and I need it for this recipe. I'm going to go get that ingredient and then find other things to do with it. So an ingredient that I've always substituted out in Chinese cooking is Shaoxing wine. I've always just used rice wine vinegar or like sake if I have it. So I got some Shaoxing wine because I made Dongpo roe last night. And Dongpo roe is a recipe that you and I both became familiar with through a show that we watched called Culinary Class Wars. And it seemed like every episode. Black spoon, white spoon. No culinary class words. Yeah, don't it wasn't it like sub name black spoon white spoon. I think the Contestants were black spoons and white spoon, whatever But every episode someone's like, oh I made dongpo ro what the fuck is that a Little very little research just a quick Google yields that this is braised pork belly and So but it's like a long braise like all the recipes. I'm looking and I'm like, oh this is just pork belly burnt ends with Chinese flavor Yeah That's, you know.
Everett Effectively.
Andrew Effectively. Uh, so last night I made Dong Po Rou and among the ingredients of like the dozen recipes that I kind of amalgamated to make my Dong Po Rou, Shaoxing wine was in all of them. And one of the, one of the articles I'm reading about this is like the reason your Chinese food doesn't taste like restaurant Chinese food is because you're not using Shaoxing wine. And I was like, okay, you have me. That's the one. It's not like, I don't need flavor profiles, I need this one thing. Because I'm not using the super common, super readily available ingredient, that's the not quite there flavor. It's like when you don't use Thai basil in a Thai recipe. It's just not quite there. If you use regular, like Italian basil in a Thai recipe, it's like, you need Thai basil. You could put Thai basil in spaghetti and you're like, oh, Thai food. Like Thai basil, fish sauce, Thai food. So I got Shaoxing wine. it, I mean you, you had it. It was phenomenal. I also use rock sugar, which was the ingredient that we talked about that you were like, Oh, but so, so I'm though I'm using Shaoxing wine as my other thing. My real other thing is find the specialty ingredient, order it on Amazon. Don't, Substitute it like even if it says like available substitutions find the specialty ingredient because that's the that's the next step in like Just hitting it because the rock sugar like that was sweet, but it was really subtle sweetness and there was like five and a half ounces of rock sugar in that braising liquid uh, get the specialty ingredient order on Amazon. Just do it. Just do it. Just get it. I would say it. You brought me over a piece of, of Dom Po wrote last night and You got two thumbs up from me, man. That was fantastic. I said terrific and you said terrific question mark. And then what, three minutes later I came over with a plate. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Fantastic stuff. It was so good. And I agree with you, your ingredients were right on. It's the specialty ingredients. If I had used rice wine vinegar, or sake, or mirin, it wouldn't have hit right. Because even when you smell the Shaoxing wine, you're like, okay, I see why. I see why. I see you. Shaoxing wine. So my other thing, I'm going to link to Shaoxing wine, because that's a super common, like I've been replacing it As long as I've been cooking. And now I will always have it in my pantry. Because why not? Because I have room. I've got another thing. Do me. Have you watched the television show called The Expanse? No. So this is a- I don't really watch television. That's like the least true thing you've ever said on the show. So The Expanse is a beloved sci-fi series. There's a television show that's been adapted from the books. The books are by James Corey. Show started on sci-fi and then was moved over to Amazon. I think sci-fi canceled it and Amazon picked it back up, seeing an opportunity there. I have, it's, the show is pretty well regarded, I would say, in terms of the sci-fi community. People are fans of the show and it's been recommended to me a number of times. I've watched the first episode, I think, like three times. Anyway, I was doing, I recently started the books, the Expanse series, the James Corey novels, and I plowed through the first book. And I'm now well into the third book. And I decided, hey, you know what? Maybe I should, maybe I should give the show another try. And so I pulled up my Amazon machine and, uh, started up the show with my wife and we watched it together. And she was like, that was good. And I was like, yeah, not only was that good, that was excellent. So we are now, I want to say eight or so episodes into the show. And I would say we're like maybe 20% of the way into the first book. And it is fantastic, Andrew. And I don't know if it's fantastic because I now know the story or if it's fantastic because it's just separately fantastic, but I'm like pumped to stop recording this show and go home and watch an episode of The Expanse with my wife. Hmm. And you know what, Andrew, I know what happens, but there's something so special about knowing what happens from the book and then going and watching the television version of it. And I had that experience with game of Thrones, right? I read the first two books before any of the television came out. And then I watched the first season of game of Thrones and I was just like, Oh, this is just how I imagined it, but better. Uh, and there's something really, really cool with well done adaptations, um, in that, in that book to show format. Yeah. Cause show to book is not as fun. Like watching the show and then going to the book. Yeah, it's, it's not as no, I've had good experiences that too, but I hear what you're saying. It's just not, it's good. Right. Cause you, you watch the show and you miss a lot of things and then you go to the book and you're like, Oh my God, this would be better. But when you read the book and then like you have this, you have this, You have the show played in your head, right? You've created the movie for yourself or the show for yourself. And then you watch it and you see somebody else's interpretation of it. It's, it's a really fun, uh, fun experience. And even Kim, even my wife who has not read the books, by the way, uh, she's high right now. She's not, she's, she's off of the good stuff, man. In fact, today she was like, today she told me, you know, Hey, I, give me a couple of Oxy's. I was sort of like, I've been like having chills and feeling weird. And so I thought, well, maybe this is like after effects of my anesthesia. And I was like, from three weeks ago? No girl, you're going through withdrawals. You're going through fucking opiate withdrawals. Which makes sense, right? She's been on- It's to be expected after having been on opiates for that long.
Everett Yeah, that's right. Like steady opiates. Oh yeah, yeah.
Andrew Like every three hours type of deal. Yeah, she did a little reading on her own. I was like, oh yeah, you're right. So yeah, I think it probably makes sense for her to taper a little bit more than she did. She just basically stopped tapering. Bring me one of them Skittles. Anyway, yeah, that's real. Andrew, I don't have anything else to say to you tonight. Well, we have to do the music thing and you have a press the button. I'll fade it up just a little bit. And then I'll say to you folks at home, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20 the watch clicker podcast. Do me a favor and go to our website, not because I need you to go to our website, but because I say that every single week. He does. If you wanna follow us on social media, again, because we say this every week, you can do that at Instagram, at WatchClicker, or at 40and20 underscore WatchClicker. And if you wanna support us, not because we say it every week, but because we actually need money to keep this thing going, you can do that at patreon.com slash 40and20. And just because I say it every week, don't forget to tune back in next Tuesday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Buh-bye.